Which BIG team has the best shot at the sweet sixteen?
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NW (& iu if they get everyone healthy), gives them both 2 great guards who can score, perhaps MSU & M have enough @ guard? ... ......
Guard play = formula for NCAAT success.
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I'd rank the best chances as...
1. Purdue
2. Indiana
3. Michigan State
4. Maryland
5. Illinois
6. Northwestern
7. Iowa
8. Rutgers
9. Wisconsin (if they get in)
1. Purdue
2. Indiana
3. Michigan State
4. Maryland
5. Illinois
6. Northwestern
7. Iowa
8. Rutgers
9. Wisconsin (if they get in)
I'll say it's pretty close between Indiana and Purdue. Indiana has the best talent, which is really important in the NCAA Tournament. Zach Edey is going to be a very difficult match-up for a lot of teams. But Purdue's young guards have to find their second wind.
Illinois could catch fire. They've been streaky all year.
Illinois could catch fire. They've been streaky all year.
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(1) Indiana
(2) Maryland
(3) Purdue
(4) Northwestern
(5) Michigan State
Hate to say it, but IU might have the best inside/outside punch in the country with TJD and JHS. They can shoot, and they play decent enough defense that a hot offensive night will put them in a position to beat anyone. I don't know if Painter has ever had a talent like JHS - uber-athletic 6'6" PG that can shoot and handle. Really hoping he bolts for the league after the season.
(2) Maryland
(3) Purdue
(4) Northwestern
(5) Michigan State
Hate to say it, but IU might have the best inside/outside punch in the country with TJD and JHS. They can shoot, and they play decent enough defense that a hot offensive night will put them in a position to beat anyone. I don't know if Painter has ever had a talent like JHS - uber-athletic 6'6" PG that can shoot and handle. Really hoping he bolts for the league after the season.
IU. Painter and company will be knocked out in the round of 32 by someone like Arkansas.
FYI, 25 of the 30 brackets on the matrix that were updated today still have Purdue a #1. 4 of the 5 have UCLA instead, and the other has Baylor.
UCLA played a tight game at Colorado today but pulled it out.
UCLA played a tight game at Colorado today but pulled it out.
As far as Sweet 16…a number of Big 10 teams could make it depending on matchups.
You shouldn’t have told me that, now I have unrealistic expectations again…
Obviously Purdue. Purdue will be a one or two seed. If they were a #1 seed, the highest rated team they could possibly play would be the 29th to 32nd best team (8 seed).
Indiana's and Maryland's current net ratings would put them at around a 5 or 6 seed meaning they and all other B1G teams would be underdogs in the round of 32.
Everyone else would either be underdogs in round 1 or play the Number 1 or 2 seed in the second round.
Indiana's and Maryland's current net ratings would put them at around a 5 or 6 seed meaning they and all other B1G teams would be underdogs in the round of 32.
Everyone else would either be underdogs in round 1 or play the Number 1 or 2 seed in the second round.
Yeah, but seed isn't everything. Lots of #1s have lost in the R32--Baylor last year--and lots of #5s and #6s have made the S16.
Painter' first S16 team was a little like Indiana this year--immensely talented but frustratingly inconsistent. They went 11-7 in the B1G but won the conference tournament and advanced to the S16.
Unfortunately, I think Purdue will make the S16 and that's where their season ends. The playbook is out on how to beat Purdue.
You're correct that seed isn't everything. But it is the single biggest predictor of success in the tournament. The question is, who has the best chance of reaching S16? Without any other information (right now we don't know any match-ups) seeding is our best thing. As it stands right now when the question is being asked, PU will be the highest seeded team from the B1G. So PU has the best chance of making S16.
Maybe, but there should be a lot of teams left in the round of 32, with very good guard play. I can see a Big 12 team as the opponent in Purdue’s Round of 32 game. I hope you are right, but it could get interesting.
No - that team lost to Florida in the round of 32. Purdue in '09 tournament beat Washington in the West region before bowing out to top-seed UConn - after winning Purdue's lone BTT.
Rob Hummel missed a few games that year with a back issue, which didn't help Purdue's regular season chances - Michigan State was top dog.
Sure, but you're more likely to make a Final Four as a 1 or 2 than you are any other seed.
Ah I remember that now. That was the UConn team with Thabeet (sp?) if I remember correctly. For some reason I was thinking we phased that Florida team in the S16, but you are right.
The problem with IU, is they have a great win @ Purdue but people seem to forget the game before that they were bitch slapped @ Michigan St by 15! How many times has that happened? Not enough consistency ! 6 of 9 losses have been double digits!
If they get Xavier Johnson back and contributing they have a very dangerous team. They easily could be a sweet 16/Final 8 team.
No one was going to beat Michigan State that night. Literally no one. Too much emotion around that night.
I'd probably have Maryland ahead of MSU, but I more or less agree with this.
Northwestern won't be allowed their patented moving screens to get Buie free ... they will not be competitive without BG refs
In the last ten years roughly 38% if the #1 seeds have made it to the Final Four and 22.5 % of 2 seeds. After that it drops off pretty substantially as only 8% of the 3 or 4 seeds have made it to the Final Four.
Bottom line if your not a one or two seed you need a lot of luck.
Bottom line if your not a one or two seed you need a lot of luck.
Just a reminder Purdue has never been a 1 seed under Painter. Been a 2 seed once (Year Hass got hurt). Its not a mystery why we haven't made a FF.
Maybe we still get a #1 seed this year and take our chances.
Maybe we still get a #1 seed this year and take our chances.
Since the field expanded in 1985:
65% of champs have been #1 seeds
14% have been #2 seeds.
You are correct, if you're not a 1, you need a lot of things to go your way.
Sadly the Boys IMHO have played themselves out of a 1 seed and the How to beat them playbook is out, will be glad they get invited to the tournament, however not knowing IF our guards are going to show up and make some 3's puts a lot of pressure on Edey.....if we come out of the 3 slump I see could Elte 8 , stay in the 3 slump be lucky to get past 1st round.
I see that stat or similar ones get quoted a lot here. While true, I don't really put much weight in it. The reason #1 seeds make the final four more often than others is because they are better teams. Not because they have this magical #1 label on them. I would be curious to know the breakdown between the individual rankings of the 1 seeds. How often does the lowest #1 seed make the FF? Last year's 4th #1, Baylor, didn't make the Sweet 16.
At the moment we are holding on to a #1 seed by a hair per most analysts. We have got to play better than we are right now.
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