Besides the obvious good outside shooting, is the another way to neutralize the Edey double team?
What neutralizes the post double team?
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Need to pass it out for open 3 pointer and/or to someone who can penetrate the paint.
Or pass to a backdoor or opposite wing cutter which we seem to do really well some of the time. Furst is really good at making those cuts and Morton too at times.
add it to those two... dives to the basket. I actually thought Zach had the players doubling him high leaving him with a drop step and left handed layup that he never took. I hope Purdue is not too focused on analytics in that an open 8/10 foot shot is not taken. Any good defensive team needs threatened by all three areas...understanding not in equal amounts most generally. How did Trey and Caleb get as accomplished as they were and not face the basket other than shooting a 3 ball?
Deep post position and a quick post move. Quick spin opposite of where the double is coming in some situations. Quick dive cut from opposite side post.
Interestingly, the last 2 comments contradict each other.
I thought during the Iowa game, Edey was making his initial post move faster. Not waiting for the defense to settle in with him. I'm not sure it helped because he ended up rushing shots more.
I think the key in all of this is that the other 4 guys on the floor need to be in constant motion, and Edey needs to be aware of where his outlets are. Maybe that's a Furst dive. Maybe that's Loyer getting a screen from Gillis where one or the other ends up wide open for a 3. Maybe it's out to Smith and right back in. What we have to take advantage of is that 8 to 10 defensive eyes are on Edey. Someone HAS to get open.
I thought during the Iowa game, Edey was making his initial post move faster. Not waiting for the defense to settle in with him. I'm not sure it helped because he ended up rushing shots more.
I think the key in all of this is that the other 4 guys on the floor need to be in constant motion, and Edey needs to be aware of where his outlets are. Maybe that's a Furst dive. Maybe that's Loyer getting a screen from Gillis where one or the other ends up wide open for a 3. Maybe it's out to Smith and right back in. What we have to take advantage of is that 8 to 10 defensive eyes are on Edey. Someone HAS to get open.
Along that line...IF Purdue gets the ball across the line with 22 seconds to go and such, it might give Zach a chance to post on the wing and kick it back to the passer and then feed zach again. I would like the doubler and those covering the outlet to rotate some back and forth rather than just covering the outlet. Those teams that switch it up on quick double on pass, double on dribble should be kept guessing as much as Zach is.
Sometimes he turnovers happened because he rushed and other times it was because he waited too long. One of the TOs he had, Newman was wide open on the wing for a shot.
I think you need some combo of effective shooting from deep combined with dudes who can drive to screw up the overall defense and get a lot of folks out of position.
Yes, you have to occupy the D to not just help Zach or move into a gap for a kick out and shot, but when teh D is watching a player move the D should adjust and moving the D should also help with rebounding.
As others have suggested, the drop step is usually there for the taking. I would also like to see more screens to free Zach up. Maybe have Furst setting up down low screening Zach’s man and hopefully giving Zach enough space and time to get a shot up.
That's the thing though -- when they triple team the post, he can't take his time or they crowd him and he can't make a good pass.
Agree. Unfortunately Purdue does not have drivers, multiple players who can get their own shot. Always a Purdue weakness, very few threes and fours who can drive to the hoop and make a play with regularity and confidence.
good post, too many stand around shooters, need at least one slasher,
And yet I"m consistently amazed by how well teams swing the defense and have someone running at the shooter no matter how many passes we actually make.
True, but Northwestern did not do a great job closing. Purdue got many wide open threes and still missed 12 straight threes.
There are good wide open threes and bad wide open threes. Brandon had some VERY good open threes as were a few others
Those never fell into what I said should be "good" wide open 3s. It would be wonderful if he could put together a good stroke behind the arc, but he wouldn't be in my first five shooters of confidence. I prefer Braden, Fletcher, Brandon, Mason and Jenkins (no order) as my first five that day in and day out I would want to see shoot. Past them is a bit of a surprise and say that knowing the five I prefer... have not been that good...
remember when we were excited about all the SHOOTERS we have!
ZE gets it so deep on the block it takes away a lot of the normal options other than the outside shooters
EAZY QUESTION:
The official calls a foul when they double foul Edey on the doubles.
It didn’t affect us in the non conference or the first half of the conference season. We’ve struggled being doubled lately because the officials aren’t officiating. Pretty easy to see, especially if you played the game.
The official calls a foul when they double foul Edey on the doubles.
It didn’t affect us in the non conference or the first half of the conference season. We’ve struggled being doubled lately because the officials aren’t officiating. Pretty easy to see, especially if you played the game.
Would help if Furst could finish strong when he gets the ball dumped to him in the lane.
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