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People always say just play who you get, but I don't think that is a fair formula. Your seeding is very important. I think Purdue needs to get a 3 seed in order to have a legitimate chance to make it to the final four. It is not a coincidence that the top seeds usually make it. No one is going to play 5 or 6 great games in a row. If you set yourself up for that, it won't happen. You have to win a game or two in the tourney without your best game as we did at Indiana last week.

Now, can we get a 3 seed? It is possible, but we probably can't lose more than 6 games which means only 1 more loss including the BTT. Man, those 3 losses to less superior teams hurts so bad.

On the other hand, we should be favored in every game we play the rest of the way.

Probably too tall and order to win out or come close to it, but I hope it happens.
 
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Well it really does not matter so much if it is a 3 seed or a 4. Based on data....

Seed No. 1: 40.5% reached Final Four
No. 2: 21.6%
No. 3: 12.1%
No. 4: 11.2%
No. 5: 5.2%
No. 6: 2.6%
No. 8: 3.4%
No. 9: 0.9%
No. 11: 2.6%
Other seeds: 0% since 1985

But yes, to get there (FF) you need to play 4 games in a row well....no matter where you start.
 
We win the BIG Tourney we will surely be a 3 seed........Looking at our remaining games my GUT tells me we go 4-2 in that stretch.......putting us at 13-5(which is what I thought all year) in conf and 24-7 overall. Wisky probably will win Conf at 14-4....We get a #2 seed in Conf Tourney...........win it and we will be a number 3 seed for sure(winning Big Tourney with our record...committee will have to give it to us).....W don't win tourney...........5-6 seed is probable!
 
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I still think our ceiling is a 2 seed but the chances of winning out and the BTT are very very slim. 1 loss remainder of season I think we are a 3 no problem. 2 losses then we are likely looking at a 4 seed with very slim chances of a 3 depending on how the other teams around us finish. 3 losses and a 4 seed is out the window. I don't even want to think about anything over 3 losses .
 
Even if we win the BTT, I think our ceiling is a 4. Just not enough cachet for the BIG this year, and usually the seeds are set by the time the BTT championship game is played. Only shot at a higher seed is if we were able to run the table all the way to the BTT final, which would be really hard to do.
 
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Not sure why the Big Ten is so disrespected by the tourney heads. We have 20 wins right now and they have us as a 5 seed. It is a joke. We won two away games last week and don't move in the polls. We should be a 3 seed now, not a 5. So we have to overplay our way in and win almost every game left. Come on!
 
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We win the BIG Tourney we will surely be a 3 seed........Looking at our remaining games my GUT tells me we go 4-2 in that stretch.......putting us at 13-5(which is what I thought all year) in conf and 24-7 overall. Wisky probably will win Conf at 14-4....We get a #2 seed in Conf Tourney...........win it and we will be a number 3 seed for sure(winning Big Tourney with our record...committee will have to give it to us).....W don't win tourney...........5-6 seed is probable!

I, too, thought 13-5 at the beginning of the season, and that might very well be how it pans out. But, I can also see 14-4 as a distinct possibility.

Purdue has to protect its home court the rest of the way. No let downs against Rutgers, MSU, or Indiana. Going 2-1 for the last three road games (@Michigan; @PSU; @Northwestern) would be a very respectable accomplishment, in my opinion.
 
Looking at who made the cut for the top 16, I can't see us as a 3. That means we would have to displace 5 of those teams.

I think you could argue Butler and Florida possibly. But Butler beat Nova and Arizona. Florida's win over Kentucky is similar to ours over Wisky. But after those 2, who else that the committee picked should we be ahead of? Virginia, West Virginia? Virginia beat Louisville home and away. West Virginia beat Baylor and Kansas.

We just don't have enough signature wins to knock those other teams out of the top 16 seeds plus we have losses to Iowa and Nebraska, non tourney teams.

If we keep winning, I can see being a 4, but a 3, no way unless all those other teams go south.
 
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Looking at who made the cut for the top 16, I can't see us as a 3. That means we would have to displace 5 of those teams.

I think you could argue Butler and Florida possibly. But Butler beat Nova and Arizona. Florida's win over Kentucky is similar to ours over Wisky. But after those 2, who else that the committee picked should we be ahead of? Virginia, West Virginia? Virginia beat Louisville home and away. West Virginia beat Baylor and Kansas.

We just don't have enough signature wins to knock those other teams out of the top 16 seeds plus we have losses to Iowa and Nebraska, non tourney teams.

If we keep winning, I can see being a 4, but a 3, no way unless all those other teams go south.

If all those teams continue to win then of course we won't pass them up. They are certainly in position to strengthen their cases as are we and a couple losses would certainly hurt their chances just like it would ours. We will need for them to lose because as you stated our wins aren't enough to pass them up on our own. After seedings were announced like 4 or 5 teams ahead of us lost within a 2 day span. Plenty of time left to earn a 3 seed if Purdue takes care of business.
 
I, too, thought 13-5 at the beginning of the season, and that might very well be how it pans out. But, I can also see 14-4 as a distinct possibility.

Purdue has to protect its home court the rest of the way. No let downs against Rutgers, MSU, or Indiana. Going 2-1 for the last three road games (@Michigan; @PSU; @Northwestern) would be a very respectable accomplishment, in my opinion.
People always say just play who you get, but I don't think that is a fair formula. Your seeding is very important. I think Purdue needs to get a 3 seed in order to have a legitimate chance to make it to the final four. It is not a coincidence that the top seeds usually make it. No one is going to play 5 or 6 great games in a row. If you set yourself up for that, it won't happen. You have to win a game or two in the tourney without your best game as we did at Indiana last week.

Now, can we get a 3 seed? It is possible, but we probably can't lose more than 6 games which means only 1 more loss including the BTT. Man, those 3 losses to less superior teams hurts so bad.

On the other hand, we should be favored in every game we play the rest of the way.

Probably too tall and order to win out or come close to it, but I hope it happens.
 
Not sure why the Big Ten is so disrespected by the tourney heads. We have 20 wins right now and they have us as a 5 seed. It is a joke. We won two away games last week and don't move in the polls. We should be a 3 seed now, not a 5. So we have to overplay our way in and win almost every game left. Come on!
Take care of business and let the rest fall in to place. I think with guys like Biggie and Carsen...this provides a fair amount of fodder to push them the final few weeks in to the tourney. I wouldn't be surprised to see the best Purdue team all season this coming week as they see the work they have done up to this point and, as Rodney Dangerfield would say: 'I Don't Get No Respect.'
 
3 seed only way I see run tables in big 10 and win it all in DC. Highly unlikely and zero absolute zero chance for 2 so that not happening period. 14-4 and Big 10 tourney will net 4 and slight opening 3 seed. Realistic goal be one of 16 teams as we have a lot of meat on bone still
 
Winning out including the BTT would easily have us safely inside the top 10 and maybe as low as 5th in the polls. Our metrics would also continue to improve with a string of wins that long and I think a 2 would be more than likely. I don't however think we will win out so chances are very small at best to get it. We'd be looking at a 12 game winning streak going into the tourney with some great to decent wins during the stretch and I think would separate ourselves from the rest of the Big 10.
 
Well it really does not matter so much if it is a 3 seed or a 4. Based on data....

Seed No. 1: 40.5% reached Final Four
No. 2: 21.6%
No. 3: 12.1%
No. 4: 11.2%
No. 5: 5.2%
No. 6: 2.6%
No. 8: 3.4%
No. 9: 0.9%
No. 11: 2.6%
Other seeds: 0% since 1985

But yes, to get there (FF) you need to play 4 games in a row well....no matter where you start.

I think this proves that the difference between a 3/4 seed DOES matter. I would much rather be on the bottom half of the bracket than have to play a 1 seed. Anecdotally, it seems like #1 seeds are clearly better than everyone else in the country. Teams 5-15 there just isn't much difference. I want to avoid the best teams for as long as possible.
 
We haven't seen the 2nd week of the NCAA tourney in awhile, that would be wonderful. Final Four is like Gene Hackman talking to his Hickory team. "Im sure the final four is beyond your wildest dreams, so let's just keep it right there."
 
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I agree, a 3 seed would be ultra nice, but sometimes its good to lay back in the bushes and surprise a few of those teams with the big bullseye on their chest.
 
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People always say just play who you get, but I don't think that is a fair formula. Your seeding is very important. I think Purdue needs to get a 3 seed in order to have a legitimate chance to make it to the final four. It is not a coincidence that the top seeds usually make it. No one is going to play 5 or 6 great games in a row. If you set yourself up for that, it won't happen. You have to win a game or two in the tourney without your best game as we did at Indiana last week.

Now, can we get a 3 seed? It is possible, but we probably can't lose more than 6 games which means only 1 more loss including the BTT. Man, those 3 losses to less superior teams hurts so bad.

On the other hand, we should be favored in every game we play the rest of the way.

Probably too tall and order to win out or come close to it, but I hope it happens.
IU had a #1 seed with Zeller and Olidipo and were knocked out in the third game a few years ago. Regardless of your seed you must beat everybody you play.
 
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Not sure why the Big Ten is so disrespected by the tourney heads. We have 20 wins right now and they have us as a 5 seed. It is a joke. We won two away games last week and don't move in the polls. We should be a 3 seed now, not a 5. So we have to overplay our way in and win almost every game left. Come on!
I thought 14-4 going into the season, but I don't count out running the table. Can somebody tell me who in the B1G is better than Purdue? Maryland beats Wiscy, and Purdue wins out for a regular season B1G three way tie, and Purdue wins the BTT. We go into the NCAA tourney at 29-5 and a #2 seed. We've got what it takes to do this. And if Wiscy loses 2 more, and MD loses 1 more and we run the table we are the B1G regular season champs solo. This is the season for us.
 
People always say just play who you get, but I don't think that is a fair formula. Your seeding is very important. I think Purdue needs to get a 3 seed in order to have a legitimate chance to make it to the final four. It is not a coincidence that the top seeds usually make it. No one is going to play 5 or 6 great games in a row. If you set yourself up for that, it won't happen. You have to win a game or two in the tourney without your best game as we did at Indiana last week.

Now, can we get a 3 seed? It is possible, but we probably can't lose more than 6 games which means only 1 more loss including the BTT. Man, those 3 losses to less superior teams hurts so bad.

On the other hand, we should be favored in every game we play the rest of the way.

Probably too tall and order to win out or come close to it, but I hope it happens.
I don't think that's true this year, but it depends on the brackets. I'd rather be a 4 and have to play the (1s) Zags or Baylor in the S16 than (2s) UNC or L'Ville
 
We are favored via KenPom from here on out in every game. Additionally I believe that would infer that is true of the neutral court in B1G Tourney. We can win out, is it likely?.... Statistically yes, and I say we have players with the grit to get it done.

One game at a time, and stay healthy.
 
People always say just play who you get, but I don't think that is a fair formula. Your seeding is very important. I think Purdue needs to get a 3 seed in order to have a legitimate chance to make it to the final four. It is not a coincidence that the top seeds usually make it. No one is going to play 5 or 6 great games in a row. If you set yourself up for that, it won't happen. You have to win a game or two in the tourney without your best game as we did at Indiana last week.


Now, can we get a 3 seed? It is possible, but we probably can't lose more than 6 games which means only 1 more loss including the BTT. Man, those 3 losses to less superior teams hurts so bad.

On the other hand, we should be favored in every game we play the rest of the way.

Probably too tall and order to win out or come close to it, but I hope it happens.

A 3 seed would be great, but I would take a 4/5 seed in a heartbeat over a 3 if Purdue were to wind up in Gonzaga's bracket.

At the end of the day this team cannot relax and have another letdown towards the end the season. Losses at NW or Michigan could happen, but they need to take care of business and not slip up in the other games. Just win!
 
If all those teams continue to win then of course we won't pass them up. They are certainly in position to strengthen their cases as are we and a couple losses would certainly hurt their chances just like it would ours. We will need for them to lose because as you stated our wins aren't enough to pass them up on our own. After seedings were announced like 4 or 5 teams ahead of us lost within a 2 day span. Plenty of time left to earn a 3 seed if Purdue takes care of business.
I don't see those teams losing more than we will probably lose, given we have losses to Minnie, Nebraska, and Iowa already, one at home. We have 4 or 5 games left that are at least as hard as those 3 were. With one more loss and making the BTT finals and I could see a 4 seed, but even with no losses I don't see us a lock for a 3 given the rankings of the teams we will beat along the way.
 
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