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Way too early 2017 starters

dumpsterFyre

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I had to visit this topic with the addition of Eastern.

PG: Nojel Eastern
SG: Carsen Edwards
SF: Vince Edwards
PF: Basil Smotherman
C: Isaac Haas

5 guys who play above the rim, 3 of them can shoot from deep. I really, really like how we're shaping up for next year.

Flame away.
 
Copying my take from KHC:

Obviously there is a lot to play for this season, but that doesn't stop us as fans to look ahead to the future. Assuming Biggie is gone (I'd be stunned if he's not), Vincent and Isaac return (seems pretty likely), and no one else is signed (Sasha or Epperson most likely add) or transfers out, below is the roster for next season:

Seniors: Vincent Edwards, PJ Thompson, Isaac Haas, Dakota Mathias, Basil Smotherman
Juniors: Ryan Cline, Jacquil Taylor (could earn 6th yr and have soph eligibility if he doesn't return), Eden Ewing
Sophomores: Carsen Edwards
Freshmen: Nojel Eastern, Aaron Wheeler, Matty Haarms

Position by position:

PG - It will be hard for a true freshman to take the starting role from a senior three year starter but if anyone can do it, it's Eastern. We are in good hands with one as starter and one as backup

SG - If Eastern starts, I think this is Carsen's job. If not, we may still see Dakota starting. That would be a 3 year senior starter at SG as well. Add Cline as a possibility and the 2 guard is well stocked

SF - Because of the depth at SG, I could easily see Mathias and/or Cline getting SF minutes and shifting Vincent back to the PF slot. Is Wheeler ready to contribute? Coming from Brewster, he may be.

PF - If Vincent stays at the SF, this is the biggest question mark position. Can Basil assume the starter role? It certainly looks possible after the Nova game. Is Ewing ready to contribute immediately? One would hope as a Juco.

C - Obviously having a senior Haas in the middle is big. Hopefully by his senior year, he's ready to play 28 minutes and dominate without getting in foul trouble (much like Hammons learned). If that's the case, we just need Taylor and/or Haarms to play steady minutes behind him.

Normally, you try not to expect much of freshman unless they are heralded (like Biggie and now Eastern). As such, one would like to think at least one of Haarms or Wheeler redshirts. But considering:
  • Both are coming from high level programs where they are playing alongside multiple D1 commits
  • They will each have an entire summer to indoctrinate thanks to the World University Games appearance
  • Redshirting would shift them back into a class that will likely already have 5 or 6 members
  • With so many seniors, it may be an all hands on deck, go for the jugular type of season
I'd almost be surprised if either redshirts. Now, if Purdue picks up Epperson in the spring, I'd expect either him or Haarms to redshirt.

All in all, I like the roster. Athleticism will be much improved. It will be loaded with senior leadership. And it will have several guys that are skilled. And if it plays out above, Purdue will have 12 scholarship players for the first time in a while.

Now, enough about next year, let's kick some Georgia State ass.
 
Too much to wrap my head around. I just want to enjoy this ride as long as it will take us.
 
I think PJ is starter next season but if Eastern earns it then good for him. I could also see Vince play the 4 which would allow for a range of combinations for the 2/3 spots including Mathias/Cline/Smotherman/Eastern/Carsen.
 
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Nah, PJ starts but Eastern can play big minutes.

I think we will have 5 seniors starting....can't remember when was the last time we had that!

Starters: PJ/Mathias/Smotherman/Vince/Haas

Key Reserves: Eastern/Carsen/Cline/Taylor or Ewing
 
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If Eastern earns the starting pg spot this is the starting five I see.

Eastern
Edwards
Mathias
Edwards
Haas

With Cline PJ Basil Ewing Taylor a pretty damn good second five coming off the bench. Could you imagine if Biggie stayed. The hype would be too much for the fan base.
 
I love the discussion and points being made but CMP is much more about who finishes a game than who starts. I wouldn't be surprised to see Eastern starting at some point next season but more than likely it'll be PJT finishing the games with his outside shooting and steady play.
 
After all these years, fighting for tough rebounds or knocking down a key jumper, it's amazing to that PJ still gets no respect. Eastern is a GREAT get and I am EXCITED, but he is now hyped up to be like the next John Wall and will take over a would-be senior who last year [as a sophomore] has just broken the school's best AST/TO ratio. If anything we've learned from Painter, it's that 1) he is loyal, and 2) he plays the player he trusts. Everyone is excited by Eastern's POTENTIAL, but at the end of the day, Painter will give the starting gig (and PT at crunch time) to the guy he trusts most. Just think back on all those times where RayD and AJ got the PT even when they shouldn't, but they were the guys Painter trusted.
 
After all these years, fighting for tough rebounds or knocking down a key jumper, it's amazing to that PJ still gets no respect. Eastern is a GREAT get and I am EXCITED, but he is now hyped up to be like the next John Wall and will take over a would-be senior who last year [as a sophomore] has just broken the school's best AST/TO ratio. If anything we've learned from Painter, it's that 1) he is loyal, and 2) he plays the player he trusts. Everyone is excited by Eastern's POTENTIAL, but at the end of the day, Painter will give the starting gig (and PT at crunch time) to the guy he trusts most. Just think back on all those times where RayD and AJ got the PT even when they shouldn't, but they were the guys Painter trusted.
I think it's PJT AS well. That is exactly the kind of guy that as a senior does and says just the right things at the right time to make a huge difference and nobody sees it from a distance. He will be the point and everyone else will back it up.
 
After all these years, fighting for tough rebounds or knocking down a key jumper, it's amazing to that PJ still gets no respect. Eastern is a GREAT get and I am EXCITED, but he is now hyped up to be like the next John Wall and will take over a would-be senior who last year [as a sophomore] has just broken the school's best AST/TO ratio. If anything we've learned from Painter, it's that 1) he is loyal, and 2) he plays the player he trusts. Everyone is excited by Eastern's POTENTIAL, but at the end of the day, Painter will give the starting gig (and PT at crunch time) to the guy he trusts most. Just think back on all those times where RayD and AJ got the PT even when they shouldn't, but they were the guys Painter trusted.

I agree PJ will likely start. But Painter has also proven that if you earn PT, especially defensively, you will play regardless of class. He is not afraid to play Frosh if they bring something to the table. So while I agree PJ will and play plenty, IMO, Eastern will get 20+ minutes as well in multiple roles.
 
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I agree PJ will likely start. But Painter has also proven that if you earn PT, especially defensively, you will play regardless of class. He is not afraid to play Frosh if they bring something to the table. So while I agree PJ will and play plenty, IMO, Eastern will get 20+ minutes as well in multiple roles.
If Eastern gets 20 minutes a game next year, I will be surprised. However, until we see him in a Purdue uniform on the court, it's really hard to say. I was surprised last year how many minutes Biggie got and how he was allowed to work through his mistakes on the court. I would have sat him on a handful of occasions last year and Matt didn't. It looks like that may pay off this season.

But with PJs experience and improvement, I see him starting and getting the bulk of the PT.
 
Anyone watching Georgia State right now? The 2017 team without Biggie scares me. Middle of the pack B1G looks to be the best case scenario based on how we are playing if Biggie leaves. At least we don't have to worry about Haas or VE leaving early.
 
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