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Washington a steal

My concern is if he was a steal and everything, why didn't he flip when all of the other WKU athletes flipped and why did Brohm wait so long to seek his commitment?
 
My concern is if he was a steal and everything, why didn't he flip when all of the other WKU athletes flipped and why did Brohm wait so long to seek his commitment?
Brohm has been recruiting him for two years. I'd say he was interested. What does the date of the kid's decision have to do with anything? I wish I had your sources. You seem to know more than even the coaches recruiting these guys.
 
It's called perception. Timing wise it doesn't look good if your last two recruits are a couple of 2* star players from your previous school that didn't flip sooner. It sends the message that they were not really wanted or a high priority but we couldn't find anybody better, so we gave them a scholarship. The headlines said Winfield was our top priority for the weekend, but instead we signed Major. So much for this site's credibility. And when all the press is focused on the last week of your program, you want to go out with a bang rather than flipping two guys from WKU. If we're going to steal a player, I want that player to be Yeast or somebody committed to OSU or ND or IU. Flipping somebody from your old school on the final weekend just doesn't send out that burst of excitement. And regardless of what Winfield says, by bringing in Major, it's pretty easy to speculate Brohm is not going to add another db to this recruiting class. The same is true about Payton. The addition of Wright means Payton isn't coming. The addition of Wright also means we probably won't sign a TE. I don't use sources. I use deductive thinking and logic. And that same thinking says we need to still sign a RB, LB, and DT. And we have how many scholarships left to give? 1? 2? 3 at most?
 
It's called perception. Timing wise it doesn't look good if your last two recruits are a couple of 2* star players from your previous school that didn't flip sooner. It sends the message that they were not really wanted or a high priority but we couldn't find anybody better, so we gave them a scholarship. The headlines said Winfield was our top priority for the weekend, but instead we signed Major. So much for this site's credibility. And when all the press is focused on the last week of your program, you want to go out with a bang rather than flipping two guys from WKU. If we're going to steal a player, I want that player to be Yeast or somebody committed to OSU or ND or IU. Flipping somebody from your old school on the final weekend just doesn't send out that burst of excitement. And regardless of what Winfield says, by bringing in Major, it's pretty easy to speculate Brohm is not going to add another db to this recruiting class. The same is true about Payton. The addition of Wright means Payton isn't coming. The addition of Wright also means we probably won't sign a TE. I don't use sources. I use deductive thinking and logic. And that same thinking says we need to still sign a RB, LB, and DT. And we have how many scholarships left to give? 1? 2? 3 at most?

None of your deductions are correct
 
None of my deduction agree with your thoughts.
You assume offers were first come first served with no foundation in fact

Also at least 5 open schollies based on roster with more likely to open
 
Winfield is a high priority, but he's not done taking visits. Just because you get a commitment from someone doesn't make another guy any less a priority. Fact is, we have no clue.
 
It's called perception. Timing wise it doesn't look good if your last two recruits are a couple of 2* star players from your previous school that didn't flip sooner. It sends the message that they were not really wanted or a high priority but we couldn't find anybody better, so we gave them a scholarship. The headlines said Winfield was our top priority for the weekend, but instead we signed Major. So much for this site's credibility. And when all the press is focused on the last week of your program, you want to go out with a bang rather than flipping two guys from WKU. If we're going to steal a player, I want that player to be Yeast or somebody committed to OSU or ND or IU. Flipping somebody from your old school on the final weekend just doesn't send out that burst of excitement. And regardless of what Winfield says, by bringing in Major, it's pretty easy to speculate Brohm is not going to add another db to this recruiting class. The same is true about Payton. The addition of Wright means Payton isn't coming. The addition of Wright also means we probably won't sign a TE. I don't use sources. I use deductive thinking and logic. And that same thinking says we need to still sign a RB, LB, and DT. And we have how many scholarships left to give? 1? 2? 3 at most?

The addition of Wright doesnt mean we're out for Payton. He's still a possibility to come. We have several (5 I believe) WR commitments but 2 are JUCOS which will help balance out the recruiting classes. We already have a TE in Darius Pittman. As far as it sending the wrong "message," I'm sure all of the WKU players who flipped don't give a second thought about it since they went from conference USA to the Big Ten overnight. You're way overthinking this. There are at least 2 LB's that are announcing on signing day and I'll bet we get at least one of them. We just got a DT and no we don't really need an RB in this class. Of all the units, we actually have some depth at RB.
 
Currently we have 20 commits. I believe we are holding a scholarship for Williams. RB Matthews would be a nice addition. DT Harris would be a dream come true.

rather than giving my opinions on other players, I will just say I still have hopes certain players I'm following will sign, and hopes certain other players I'm following will sign elsewhere.


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It's called perception. Timing wise it doesn't look good if your last two recruits are a couple of 2* star players from your previous school that didn't flip sooner. It sends the message that they were not really wanted or a high priority but we couldn't find anybody better, so we gave them a scholarship. The headlines said Winfield was our top priority for the weekend, but instead we signed Major. So much for this site's credibility. And when all the press is focused on the last week of your program, you want to go out with a bang rather than flipping two guys from WKU. If we're going to steal a player, I want that player to be Yeast or somebody committed to OSU or ND or IU. Flipping somebody from your old school on the final weekend just doesn't send out that burst of excitement. And regardless of what Winfield says, by bringing in Major, it's pretty easy to speculate Brohm is not going to add another db to this recruiting class. The same is true about Payton. The addition of Wright means Payton isn't coming. The addition of Wright also means we probably won't sign a TE. I don't use sources. I use deductive thinking and logic. And that same thinking says we need to still sign a RB, LB, and DT. And we have how many scholarships left to give? 1? 2? 3 at most?

This guy sounds like he either has a huge ax to grind with Brohm or he has some sour grapes. Is this you Coach Hazell?
 
Currently we have 20 commits. I believe we are holding a scholarship for Williams. RB Matthews would be a nice addition. DT Harris would be a dream come true.

rather than giving my opinions on other players, I will just say I still have hopes certain players I'm following will sign, and hopes certain other players I'm following will sign elsewhere.


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If you're referring to DE Harris, that ship has likely sailed.
 
My concern is if he was a steal and everything, why didn't he flip when all of the other WKU athletes flipped and why did Brohm wait so long to seek his commitment?

Look at it this way; View them as 6th 7th round picks in the NFL....they have some talent...maybe something special, but they only flash it once in a while and a good coach thinks they can get it more consistently. Sometimes they succeed sometimes they don't, more on the players. Sometimes those kids come in with a chip on their shoulder and work hard.

UCLA, Boise, etc all took low rated guys the past four days

Bottom line there is something there the coaches like though
 
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This guy sounds like he either has a huge ax to grind with Brohm or he has some sour grapes. Is this you Coach Hazell?


No axe to grind. I'm just the guy who hated the Hazell hire the day after it was announced. And rather than being quiet and say let's give him time, I said it was a huge mistake. I also said if the goal was to finish in last place, we could have kept Hope at half the salary.

And today rather than announcing Payton committed to replace Hayes, we have a virtually unknown 2* WR from Kentucky announcing his commitment. I'm just tired of Purdue recruiting projects who will make zero contributions their first three years and may develop and play as a senior. I'm also tired of people saying give him time, and he knows what he's doing, and be patient and this rebuild is going to work this time.

It comes from being a lifetime Purdue and Milwaukee Brewers and Bucks fan. I've heard all the give him more time and he knows more than you speeches for the last 30 years. Is it possible he doesn't know as much as you think he does? We are paying the guy $3.5 million, not $750 K. I expect better decisions and a better return for that type of investment. And at this time as a stockholder, I don't like the early returns I'm seeing, because basically I don't see these moves translating into wins.

There are only 4 players left that Hazell recruited, and 1 player left that Parker recruited. This is clearly Brohm's recruiting class. I had hoped in taking over a power 5 team he would recruit power 5 players. When I see Brohm recruiting the same players he recruited for WKU, I become concerned.
 
No axe to grind. I'm just the guy who hated the Hazell hire the day after it was announced. And rather than being quiet and say let's give him time, I said it was a huge mistake. I also said if the goal was to finish in last place, we could have kept Hope at half the salary.

And today rather than announcing Payton committed to replace Hayes, we have a virtually unknown 2* WR from Kentucky announcing his commitment. I'm just tired of Purdue recruiting projects who will make zero contributions their first three years and may develop and play as a senior. I'm also tired of people saying give him time, and he knows what he's doing, and be patient and this rebuild is going to work this time.

It comes from being a lifetime Purdue and Milwaukee Brewers and Bucks fan. I've heard all the give him more time and he knows more than you speeches for the last 30 years. Is it possible he doesn't know as much as you think he does? We are paying the guy $3.5 million, not $750 K. I expect better decisions and a better return for that type of investment. And at this time as a stockholder, I don't like the early returns I'm seeing, because basically I don't see these moves translating into wins.

There are only 4 players left that Hazell recruited, and 1 player left that Parker recruited. This is clearly Brohm's recruiting class. I had hoped in taking over a power 5 team he would recruit power 5 players. When I see Brohm recruiting the same players he recruited for WKU, I become concerned.

Watch the video and compare the two players. Arguably, Cartlett is a better fit for the offensive scheme that Brohm is likely to want to run. He is a sneaky fast player with good hips and a great ability to get in to his cuts to drive a defender away from him to make plays in the passing game.

Again, to expect Brohm to come in and suddenly recruit at a level that has NEVER been seen at Purdue before is ridiculous and foolish. Like I said before...it would be like waiting for sunshine and 80 degrees in Alaska today where it is 32 and cloudy.

I'll also take a guy who has a track record of producing over multiple seasons over Hazell...and arguably an online poster who is as uniformed as they are impatient.
 
if Hayes wasn't good, MSU wouldn't have been interested in him. An official visit is a 2 way street. Hayes didn't just drive up to MSU and say hey, I'd like to play for you guys, and then have MSU say, here's a scholarship.

I've read a lot of tweets of Purdue targets, and you could see an encouraging post by Hayes on almost all of them. More than any other recruit, this kid was really proud of Purdue.

Why did Hayes decide to bolt to MSU at the last minute? I think he may have felt disrespected by the continued recruitment of Vico, Wright, Payton and Catlett. or something bad happened on the 13-15 January weekend that caused a mass exodus. Even Alstott took a visit to Illinois last week. and people like me, who overthink everything, will continue to speculate something bad happened. Was that the weekend Parker officially left for Cincy rather than remain as our RB coach?
 
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