Love that this kid is going to be a Boilermaker!
Trevion Williams Dunk
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Just wait until Josh Bonhotal starts working with him.
I hope they give Josh a big raise and never let him get away. I’ve never seen a trainer like him help change a program like he has.
Nice timing. Looking at that video I'm going to guess that he'll be able to increase his vertical by 8 to 10 inches in a year if he comes in, busts his butt training and follows the training staff guidelines on nutrition. AJ and Biggie did it before him, how bad does he want it?
I'm honestly not sure about this statement, and an just wondering if it's true... but did AJ and biggie really increase their vertical by 8-10 inches? Is this even possible? It's seen like this is one of those natural gifts, you either have it, or you don't. But 8-10 inches seems nearly impossible.. I think it would be comparable to someone running a 15 second 100m, to a 10 second 100m.. but again, I'm not an expert on this topic
assuming he is still maturing...his ceiling is higher, but I'm guessing 4 inches top. Don't really believe 10 is possible unless he has a lot of maturing to do. A couple of decades ago this was the pill...
His long arms and big frame remind me of Biggie. I’m looking forward to seeing him play for Purdue.
his similarity to Biggie sold him on Purdue
Look at it in reverse. If a guy who runs an 10 second 100m gains 50 pounds of bad weight, do you think it's possible for him to slip to running a 15 second 100m?
Trevion was a beefy kid to start with and is now working hard to get back in shape after his injury. Try putting on a 50 pound weight vest and see how high you can jump. He's going to increase his vertical some through improving his leg strength and explosiveness but the biggest gains will come if he buys into the program the way AJ and Biggie did and drops the bad weight while adding muscle.
Absolutely agree that he will improve his vertical. Purdue does use some vests and I'm sure still use a weighted ball inside. I just don't think 10 inches will happen. Jumping is more than strength..and yet I don't know how to explain it in scientific terms. I'm roughly 63.5 years old. I haven't been to the gym in 4.5 years.or since I was 59. Then, it wasn't anything to put 250lbs on a seated calf raise and after warming up at 600, 800, 1000 to do 8 reps at 1200lbs on a leg press. I know back then I could probably lift as much if not more than when I was in my late 30's and could jump substantially higher back then. I don't know how to explain it, but I still had strong legs at 59, and couldn't jump. Perhaps, had I did "explosive" type weight training I would have noticed the difference, but static numbers sure didn't positively correlate with jumping for me.
I am a STRONG believer in weight training and know he will improve quickness AND vertical by losing weight and getting stronger, but 10 inches is a LOT. He would be VERY good with more athleticism...like Biggie.
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I don't believe you can increase your vertical if you are close to your max. When I was a young man I was about an inch from being able to dunk like a boss. did everything I could to get one more inch and it never got there. I did not have access to world class trainers but I don't know what they would have done that I wasn't trying. I am only 5'10" so its not like I did not have any hop. Now days even though I am in reasonable shape for my age you would be lucky to slide a credit card under me as I take flight. Jumping is a young mans game for sure.
Are you saying you suffered from the dreaded "White man's disease"?
I agree, spring in your vertical is something you're born with. I'm sure you can improve your vertical with the right training but there's some guys who can jump (Justin Jennings) and some who can't (Brad Miller).
Asking somebody to improve their vertical 8 to 10 in is a very very big step not saying it can't be done but you're going to have to put a lot of work in when I say a lot I mean a lot. I improved mine 6 in in high school a lot of Step running and step hopping.
For reference Bonhotal said Swanigan increased his vertical by 7 to 8 inches in 2 years. Not sure he is going to go much further.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-ba...sformation-player-of-the-year-ncaa-tournament
https://www.sbnation.com/college-ba...sformation-player-of-the-year-ncaa-tournament
A woman who was once on my volleyball team had played college volleyball in the B1G. She said she had two different coaches in college. The first coach emphasized jump training which included stair running (double steps) and depth jumping among other exercises, and under him her vertical got to 30 inches. The second coach did not emphasize jump training, and her vertical dropped back to her normal 18 inches.
THAT is very good. I know Vince increased after his freshman year a bunch or it seemed like it. The younger guys can do more athletic moves with weights for that explosiveness, but I think 7-8 increase is great once in college.
Well, I can't jump today. What I was trying to say was that as I got older my static strength in my legs were actually better than many younger people,but those numbers didn't translate to jumping. One thing I always noticed in the weight room was that people that played some sports worked their legs and others just wanted the arms and chest. Me, legs were a piece of cake, pulling or rows were fine, but pushing...that was an achilles for me. Hell, I'm guessing that if I stood under the rim and went up I'd probably be a couple of inches below the rim...old age is hell.
I do think genetics plays a role. My father used to jump 5'10" with the scissors or so he told me when he was alive. I do know a principal that told me one night they were sitting at a bar having a drink and he entered a conversation with the bartender about his scissors and the guy bet my father $5 he couldn't stand beside the bar and jump on it. He took the bet and jumped on the bar at age 50 and said he damn near pulled everything he had. Anyway, genetics I know plays a huge role in calf development and athleticism as well. That is why I am strongly in favor of the weight room as it is the great equalizer for those willing to work that have been genetically hindered a bit. It also is great to hae enough tricep strength to impeded motion on defense without it looking like you are holding a guy back because you are not straining/
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Yes, a 30 inch vertical is quite a lot for a woman. She was talking 3 step vertical as opposed to standing vertical.
that certainly would help, but that still seems a lot. I really don't know..it just seems like a lot for a woman, but I have no informed opinion on that
Ya i have to agree here. 30 inches is an elite athlete even for a male. you would see women throwing down posterizing dunks, yet even the most athletic and tall women in the wnba can't dunk the ball other then a very select few. The only one i can think of is britney greiner and she biologically i believe is closer to a male if what ive read is true. And even she can barely dunk.
It may seem like a lot, but I'm quite sure she could do it. I played on a coed team with her a few years after she'd graduated college, and her ability to jump was noticeable then. One of the very few women I played with whose jumping ability caught your eye. She was only about 5'8", so she was no threat to dunk. Found this article about current Purdue volleyball player Azarial Stahl which says she has a measured 35" vertical: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.so...e6b7e148-2d17-514b-8c7d-5c506174284b.amp.html
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yeah...that probably has a lot to do with me. I injured my calf while umpiring a little league game as I covered first and then ran to make the call on third. I came up limping and went to the doc and he said I tore a quick twitch muscle and asked if I ran track. I told him no, but played a lot of bball and he said I would tear the other in a year and sure enough I was playing some bball and received a pass from Kreigh Smith (was good his freshman year at IU , but then never played as much later it seems) out on the wing as I cut baseline to go up for a baby left handed hook and pulled the other. A couple of years later I developed some arthritis in my right knee and so the aging process takes hold...
As with many good things in life, it's easier to lose it than to gain it.
This is what I'm talking about. Caleb came in in better shape than Tre is in that video and wasn't recovering from an injury and still increased his vertical by 7 to 8 inches. I don't know how fast it will happen, the light didn't come on as quickly for AJ as it did for Biggie, but I don't think 8 to 10 inches is unrealistic. Aim high!
I'm not sure if that's possible, but I do think he is more athletic than Biggie. I would never say he's going to be as productive as Biggie though. Could he be? It's possible I guess.
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