Purdue was one of only 5 either D1 or P5 teams not to get a player from the portal. That's on Painter.
Other way of looking at it, you’re removing them from the market as competitors.
We had no roster room to bring in another player. Wheeler was replaced by Furst, Newman wasn’t expected to fall of a cliff. You could argue IT could have been forced out but he played well up until he got his legs taken out against Iowa.
Painter recruited Mareon Jackson, But with the Minutes returning it means that its harder to get a transfer plus he was going to be more selective since they wouldn't get minutes if they aren't great.
I think I read or heard folks taking pride in being the only Sweet Sixteen team not to take a transfer. I looked at it a little differently. I thought maybe its a good idea to take a transfer if you want to make the Sweet Sixteen.
We had a massive hole to fill at the guard position last year. A spot playing next to Ivey was available if Painter would have hit the portal hard.
Saying massive hole is looking at it from today's perspective rather than last offseason. Drop off from Newman and post-Iowa injury IT makes it look a lot worse than it did from last offseason and even during non-conference play
Disagree. Besides Ivey, we didn't have another guard who could penetrate, create, get teams into rotations, etc. SS, EH, IT and BN were all essentially 3 pt shooters, not ball handlers.
I mean that's fair I guess but a "massive hole" would be not having EH or IT on the team, like this offseason. No player that would have those abilities would have wanted to come and try and battle for a spot with two established guards on the team. A guard that has those abilities is going to want to go to a place where they are "the guy" and that would have never happened here.
Bone fish spends enormous amounts of his time using his 20-20 hindsight binoculars. He finds any alternative action that Coach Painter might have done and decides that must have been the difference between winning/losing our last game.
Bone fish spends enormous amounts of his time using his 20-20 hindsight binoculars. He finds any alternative action that Coach Painter might have done and decides that must have been the difference between winning/losing our last game.
That last game is on Painter in my opinion. The team had more than enough talent to win. Painter failed to get the team motivated, and didn’t have them execute a game plan that ensured a win. Neither of those aspects are addressed by getting some slump from the magical portal.
It's on the whole team really. Players didn't execute the game plan but maybe the game plan should have changed once it became obvious what the officiating was going to be for that game. They all got it wrong at the end of the day, players didn't execute but the game plan didn't change when it became obvious that we were getting mugged and needed to settle the game down.
Fair statement. I removed mine simply because it's over and done with and not worth arguing about anymore. I'm certainly not changing my stance and I doubt at this point no one else is either.
I completely understand your point, but I feel like it's an overreaction to other people's overreaction. Painter's not absolved of all blame, but he can't be blamed for players not making fundamental plays. But you're right, it's over and done with and no one is going to be swayed one way or the other at this point.
naw. I was saying he needed to go to the portal this time last year. it was really clear that Hunter and IT at the point was going to be a struggle.Bone fish spends enormous amounts of his time using his 20-20 hindsight binoculars. He finds any alternative action that Coach Painter might have done and decides that must have been the difference between winning/losing our last game.
That last game is on Painter in my opinion. The team had more than enough talent to win. Painter failed to get the team motivated, and didn’t have them execute a game plan that ensured a win. Neither of those aspects are addressed by getting some slump from the magical portal.
But that can be said about every single coach. No coach turns it over, missing a free throw, gets beat on D. But, as the CEO of the basketball team, they get both the glory and the blame for the success or lack there of for the team.
Pack for sure since he is visiting on Thursday. Penn would be good for a bigger sized guard who can post.
Painter can't be absolved of players not making fundamental plays, it's his damn job. It is the AD's job to hold Painter and his staff accountable. If not then you are saying it is acceptable if your teams don't play to their ability. Maybe if Painter would have benched Ivey a few more times earlier in the season he wouldn't have played like dog shit in some of the other games. Painter needs to put his big boy pants on and decide what changes need to be made regarding the staff. S&C coach needs to go, players not getting stronger and explosiveness not improving is an issue. Trevino did lose weight but Edey had better hands and was more explosive at beginning of season.
Coaches are paid to produce. By produce that means their teams need to perform win games. Expectations are communicated from the AD to the coach what those expectations are. If the team does not meet expectations of the coach it is his job to see that they perform to meet those expectations. So Painter is responsible at the end of the day if his team turns it over, misses free throws, doesn't box out or plays like dog shit in general. The same way he is responsible if they shoot well, defend and rebound. This is what he and the assistants are being compensated for. You can hire anyone to come in and comply with NCAA rules and finish in the bottom 4 in the BIG. Once again, I believe he is too nice to get Purdue where we want them to be. Keady always said his teams responded better to an ass chewing than praise.
Forwards Chuckie White and Mark Atkinson are among my favorite JUCOs.
Imagine the meltdown if Ivey had played 20 minutes and we still lost? You can't sit your lottery pick for very long in the tourney
Painter's not on the damn court. His job is to get them in position to execute, you can (and are right to) argue he didn't prepare them to the extent they should have been but throwing the ball out of bounds or straight at the other team isn't his fault or missing layups and free throws are the blame of the players and not the coach
I’m going to have to disagree with you on this. You can sit him down (not necessarily bench), especially early in the season. That’s just good coaching. UT benched their star PG and it changed his season.
I'm not saying you don't discipline the kid, but part of what made Ivey special was his ability to improvise and do things no other player on the court could. Yeh, sometimes is didn't turn out for the positive, but Painted needed to channel that ability, not stifle it. Ivey was his best when attacking, being aggressive and making things happen because a lot of times, that's what the offense needed.
Yea sir. That is what I’m saying. Who was coaching Purdue back in the early 70’s? How could Trgovich, Stoddard, Bridgeman, plus Jim Bradley from East Chicago Roosevelt not be playing for Purdue? Not to mention Banks, Hudson, and Valevicius from Hammond High and Frank Smith from Gary Emerson and on and on.
