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Today's Jerry Palm bracketology has PU a 4 in the East

Current standings....this weekend will weed out one, maybe two who will have to win two in the tourney at that point to get in. Of the following nine, I think Iowa may be looking at the NIT.


QUOTE="lbodel, post: 1344709, member: 3942"]The Big Ten is going to own the 7-11 seeds! ha[/QUOTE]
Big Ten Standings
CONF OVR PF PA
Purdue
13-4 24-6 2425 2010
Wisconsin
11-5 22-7 2121 1801
Maryland
11-6 23-7 2246 2038
Minnesota
10-6 22-7 2207 1999
Northwestern
10-7 21-9 2149 1942
Michigan St.
10-7 18-12 2171 2079
Michigan
9-8 19-11 2221 1979
Iowa
8-8 16-13 2337 2254
Illinois
8-9 18-12 2183 20
 
The Big Ten won't get 8 teams.

I would think Purdue, Wisconsin, Maryland, Minnesota, NW and Michigan are in no matter what happens the rest of the way.

A lot of people seem to put MSU in fairly comfortably, obviously if they beat Maryland that would probably help solidify them, but if they lose - they will probably need to do something in the tourney.

So if you're at 7....

Illinois is on Lunardi's "Next 4 out" - they play Rutgers to finish the conf. season. If they win that, they probably need to win a couple games in the BTT.

That being said, there's a lot of other teams in very similar situations. The Big East has 4 teams (Providence, Marquette, Seton Hall and Xavier) in the last 4 byes/last 4 in. Seton Hall (19 wins) plays @ Butler and Marquette (18 wins) plays @ Creighton - both games that if they win, could solidify them. But if they lose, they could have work to do in the tournament. Xavier (18 wins) plays @ DePaul, if they lose that - could be in jeopardy. Providence (19 wins) plays St. John's, thinks could get shaky if they don't win.

So when you have 4 of the last 8 in being from one conference - not all of those can do well in their conference tournaments. So they could bumps themselves out. That COULD leave an opening for an Illinois if Illinois wins their final game and then wins 2 games in the BTT.
 
I would think Purdue, Wisconsin, Maryland, Minnesota, NW and Michigan are in no matter what happens the rest of the way.

A lot of people seem to put MSU in fairly comfortably, obviously if they beat Maryland that would probably help solidify them, but if they lose - they will probably need to do something in the tourney.

So if you're at 7....

Illinois is on Lunardi's "Next 4 out" - they play Rutgers to finish the conf. season. If they win that, they probably need to win a couple games in the BTT.

That being said, there's a lot of other teams in very similar situations. The Big East has 4 teams (Providence, Marquette, Seton Hall and Xavier) in the last 4 byes/last 4 in. Seton Hall (19 wins) plays @ Butler and Marquette (18 wins) plays @ Creighton - both games that if they win, could solidify them. But if they lose, they could have work to do in the tournament. Xavier (18 wins) plays @ DePaul, if they lose that - could be in jeopardy. Providence (19 wins) plays St. John's, thinks could get shaky if they don't win.

So when you have 4 of the last 8 in being from one conference - not all of those can do well in their conference tournaments. So they could bumps themselves out. That COULD leave an opening for an Illinois if Illinois wins their final game and then wins 2 games in the BTT.
You also need to factor in upsets in conference tournaments. I just don't see 8.
 
I would think Purdue, Wisconsin, Maryland, Minnesota, NW and Michigan are in no matter what happens the rest of the way.

A lot of people seem to put MSU in fairly comfortably, obviously if they beat Maryland that would probably help solidify them, but if they lose - they will probably need to do something in the tourney.

So if you're at 7....

Illinois is on Lunardi's "Next 4 out" - they play Rutgers to finish the conf. season. If they win that, they probably need to win a couple games in the BTT.

That being said, there's a lot of other teams in very similar situations. The Big East has 4 teams (Providence, Marquette, Seton Hall and Xavier) in the last 4 byes/last 4 in. Seton Hall (19 wins) plays @ Butler and Marquette (18 wins) plays @ Creighton - both games that if they win, could solidify them. But if they lose, they could have work to do in the tournament. Xavier (18 wins) plays @ DePaul, if they lose that - could be in jeopardy. Providence (19 wins) plays St. John's, thinks could get shaky if they don't win.

So when you have 4 of the last 8 in being from one conference - not all of those can do well in their conference tournaments. So they could bumps themselves out. That COULD leave an opening for an Illinois if Illinois wins their final game and then wins 2 games in the BTT.
Again, great points. If Illinois wins as they should this weekend, that puts them at .500 in the conference and at 19 wins. Will it take two in the tourney or will one and 20 wins do it? Personally, I think the Illini with a win on Saturday are in.

Where I think the big moves will be are in the current 1-4 seeds because of losses there.
 
8 is possible. The committee has 36 at large spots to fill and this year there aren't that many good teams. 7 is practically a lock.
 
You also need to factor in upsets in conference tournaments. I just don't see 8.

Absolutely. Obviously if MSU loses to Maryland - and they get upset in their first BTT game, good chance they fall out of favor. Then you're down to 6 "locks".

However, the point on the Big East stuff is that some of these teams ahead of an Illinois - they have precarious situations themselves - either facing a tough final game or a bad loss. And when you have 4 teams from the same conference in that similar situation, they can't all even advance in their first Big East tournament game.

I think 7 is most likely - but I also don't consider MSU to be as much of a lock as others.
 
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