Simple.. you have the guy who ran the number 3 defense at Illinois last year. When he got there they were like 98th. He took them to 29th in year one without the transfer portal. They had no big time recruits who made this happen. On the other side, harrell’s West Virginia offense was ranked 1 spot after brohm last year. With the portal, they have at least a passable answer all across the field..That was completely reasonable if not likely. I mean I would hope that we beat Northwestern and I don't think Illinois will be very good, but this team could very easily start the conference season 1-6 or 0-7. Could also lose 2 in the non conference.
I really have no idea why you are so bullish and defensive about this team.
Exactly.. sims and his 58% completion percentage, 5 TD and 3 INT are better than card (69%/7/1) why? Cause he plays for Nebraska now and Tom Osborne used to coach there?This dude thinks Nebraska is a "tough place to play" and Jeff Sims is going to be a better QB... better than who? Whoever Indinia rolls out? That might even be a stretch.
You always come pretty hard with it, I'll give you that. Probably the biggest difference between us is that I am open to the possibility that Walters is a complete disaster HC hire. You really seem to have a lot of belief in him, but reality is it's more likely he's not a great HC.Simple.. you have the guy who ran the number 3 defense at Illinois last year. When he got there they were like 98th. He took them to 29th in year one without the transfer portal. They had no big time recruits who made this happen. On the other side, harrell’s West Virginia offense was ranked 1 spot after brohm last year. With the portal, they have at least a passable answer all across the field..
The biggest question marks are what? Right tackle where Marcus Mbow can kick out?
You could say a lot of things but that doesn’t mean the evidence is there.
Let’s talk Va tech. I watched their cover 3 summer school. They had a historically bad QB last year .. he’s in the mix to start this year because the Baylor transfer they brought in hasn’t played much. Their offensive line was bad and they don’t think it will be much better. Their own guy doesn’t know where a pass rush will come from or who the middle linebacker will be.. they tried four in the spring and no one took the job. No solid option.
Here’s my starting lineup…
Card
Mockobee
Edrine
Sheffield
Yaseen
Miller
Moussa
Farrell
Grant
Griffin
Mbow
Mba
Brevard
Langham or Lewis
Scrouton
Jenkins
Brothers
Kane
Wilson
Allen
Stevens
Brown or Turner-Muhammad
If they go Washington brothers in the middle Kane will start over stevens
Does that really sound like a team with a historically bad QB who hasn’t been beaten out, a bad run blocking OL, no pass rush and no middle linebacker will win?
Watch these and tell me what team you’d be more scared to be a fan of..
That’s an analysis and not just “I’m a Purdue fan who is ascared cause va tech only years removed from the Beamer era routed Darrell hazell
I’m operating under the premise that card will be really good. He was a great air raid QB who wasn’t in the air raid at texas, and his stat line when he played was nice.You always come pretty hard with it, I'll give you that. Probably the biggest difference between us is that I am open to the possibility that Walters is a complete disaster HC hire. You really seem to have a lot of belief in him, but reality is it's more likely he's not a great HC.
As far as the roster goes, I've not seen much from anyone to inspire much confidence. If Card isn't really good, this team will be terrible.
And I would say just wait till next year .. a lot of guys like a sulaiman kpaka or mershawn rice.. even if they are okay when they enter games; they’ll be told thanks but no thanks about returning in 2024You always come pretty hard with it, I'll give you that. Probably the biggest difference between us is that I am open to the possibility that Walters is a complete disaster HC hire. You really seem to have a lot of belief in him, but reality is it's more likely he's not a great HC.
As far as the roster goes, I've not seen much from anyone to inspire much confidence. If Card isn't really good, this team will be terrible.
You can't change it to an offensive guy for your hypothetical here. If Walters was an offensive coach, I would be more confident in him. We just were brought back from complete futility by a guy simply because he's a great offensive coach and nothing more. Also this is Purdue and we just had sort of a dream season...and ended with 6 Ls with a cakewalk schedule. 4-8 is waaaay more likely than 8-4. Not even close.I’m operating under the premise that card will be really good. He was a great air raid QB who wasn’t in the air raid at texas, and his stat line when he played was nice.
You can look at his stat line and ask the question. “What if he isn’t really good”.. okay.. look at the kids who transferred to Nebraska and Illinois and answer that same question?
As to walters, you tell me this…
“Indiana hired their new head coach. He went to Virginia, took the number 98th ranked offense in the nation as the OC.. then had them ranked 29th and 3rd in his two seasons.. he was able to either run all over or pass all over almost every team he faced. He did this despite having almost no one who was above 5.7 RR on his offense. Since he got to Indiana, he did well in the portal and tore it up in recruiting”
And I’ll tell you “Indiana probably got a guy that’s gonna be a damn good head coach.”
Now.. for the naysayers, I’m on the wagon now. 2023 could present a couple issues that are brohm’s doing. In 2024 there will be no question. He is going to bring in some absolute beasts in the portal once people see he’s no joke.
Keep in mind. I was the worst guy in the world to SD boiler last year for saying we’d only go 8-4 and probably still win the division.
My predictions are based on 4 things being true:
1) card is healthy
2) mockobee is healthy
3) offensive tackles are healthy
4) inside linebackers are healthy
If those 4 things are true and we go 5-7 you can serve me up all the crow you want for one off-season
Uh, I was just randomizing my example but if you changed it to defense I’d say the same. This is Purdue, where Jack mollenkopf was a defensive coach.You can't change it to an offensive guy for your hypothetical here. If Walters was an offensive coach, I would be more confident in him. We just were brought back from complete futility by a guy simply because he's a great offensive coach and nothing more. Also this is Purdue and we just had sort of a dream season...and ended with 6 Ls with a cakewalk schedule. 4-8 is waaaay more likely than 8-4. Not even close.
Yeah you're right man Ryan Walters and Graham Harrell are going to revolutionize offensive scheme in the B1G. You're off the rails now bringing up Jack Mollenkopf and Tiller's background as an assistant.Uh, I was just randomizing my example but if you changed it to defense I’d say the same. This is Purdue, where Jack mollenkopf was a defensive coach.
And again. Brohm’s offense was ranked 56th last year. Harrell’s offense was 57th. If Walters was bringing bielema ball you’d have a point.
So.. you’re including a loss to Michigan after the regular season by less than Ohio state lost and a loss to LSU without all our draftees…
Do you work for CNN?
Zero chance Purdue goes 4-8 unless card and mockobee are out.
This is Purdue.. where.. guess what joe tiller coached genius? Hint.. it wasn’t offense
Uh.. Ryan Walters has revolutionized defense in the big ten. He made every team except Purdue in the big ten west completely one dimensional.Yeah you're right man Ryan Walters and Graham Harrell are going to revolutionize offensive scheme in the B1G. You're off the rails now bringing up Jack Mollenkopf and Tiller's background as an assistant.
Do you also want to throw out the Iowa and Wisconsin losses? How about Syracuse? Penn St. shouldn't count either, being the opener and all.
I am 41 years old and Purdue has had 1 season with less than 4 losses in my entire life. Our "dream seasons" come with 4. But this team with a brand new HC with zero experience, questions all over the field, and a tough schedule has zero chance to go 4-8 and will likely be 8-4. Whatever you say, you have this all figured out.
I'm kind of w/ you on this topic, so far I'm impressed w/ the recruiting but this is going to be his first year as a HC and there will be some learning to do. Also the schedule is very tough. We've seen the HC at nd have some bad in game decisions and ?able losses. Look at the philly eagles too, Surriani was called out on the carpet plenty of times in his first year. I think we are going to have to be patient w/ Walters. I always go on the low side predicting W's, and I think we'll wind up w/ 4.Yeah you're right man Ryan Walters and Graham Harrell are going to revolutionize offensive scheme in the B1G. You're off the rails now bringing up Jack Mollenkopf and Tiller's background as an assistant.
Do you also want to throw out the Iowa and Wisconsin losses? How about Syracuse? Penn St. shouldn't count either, being the opener and all.
I am 41 years old and Purdue has had 1 season with less than 4 losses in my entire life. Our "dream seasons" come with 4. But this team with a brand new HC with zero experience, questions all over the field, and a tough schedule has zero chance to go 4-8 and will likely be 8-4. Whatever you say, you have this all figured out.
In his first year as DC at Illinois he took the 98th ranked defense in the country .. without the portal.. and got the to 29th. Freeman at ND never did that at a lower tier big ten program.I'm kind of w/ you on this topic, so far I'm impressed w/ the recruiting but this is going to be his first year as a HC and there will be some learning to do. Also the schedule is very tough. We've seen the HC at nd have some bad in game decisions and ?able losses. Look at the philly eagles too, Surriani was called out on the carpet plenty of times in his first year. I think we are going to have to be patient w/ Walters. I always go on the low side predicting W's, and I think we'll wind up w/ 4.
What replacements?We can all have our opinions. I'm personally not too crazy about our chances given the harder schedule and the replacements that have to be made. Yeah we got a lot of players in the portal, but are they going to be any good? I'm positive about Walters long-term, but I just have a wait-and-see attitude about Ws and Ls this season. I'll be happy with 6-6.
Essentially all our players from last year who got drafted and led us to last season's record.What replacements?
I thought you meant out transfers. The only one I’ll miss is Holstege. I mean yeah but we lost karlaftis and bell.Essentially all our players from last year who got drafted and led us to last season's record.