But 'not hiring an agent' so he can return.
Smart move for a kid in his unique position with his dad being an agent.
Smart move for a kid in his unique position with his dad being an agent.
Swanigan declares for NBA
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I just saw this on Twitter. Haven't seen him on any mock draft boards. Gotta think he's just getting a feel for the process. I also think he's the key to your season next year.
Just curious what you all thought. I really haven't watched him that much since we only played once but I realize he's a pretty elite rebounder.
Just curious what you all thought. I really haven't watched him that much since we only played once but I realize he's a pretty elite rebounder.
He is not going to the NBA this season. Too much development left for him.
My main concern here is that Caleb and his dad Pursue this route and then the NCAA finds a reason to 'investigate' his relationship with his agent father. Then we have to nervously wait on Caleb's ability to play at the beginning of the season.
Think Sullinger with a little better outside game. Pretty good from 15 ft in. He needs to work on his quickness, lateral movement etc.
As much as I like him as a college player, I wonder if he has the athletic ability to play in the NBA. He is very young though and has the work ethic to get better. So who knows. He will be back next year. I'll be shocked if he's drafted.
Just saw that. Yep, he's gone. Agent thing won't matter,,,,several NBA teams could use his size...it's already been discussed on expressdraft
6-9 under the rim PF, that have limited range, are not in high demand. Especially when they are only 18 years old. Remember he came out a year early. Heck he could still grow 2-3 inches.
I agree in that I think he'll be back next year. My only concern for next year is that he focuses more on him trying to get to the NBA rather than doing what's best for the team in any given situation. Not saying those are mutually exclusive, but if, for example, scouts tell him he needs to improve his outside shooting, he may take more ill-advised 3's in an effort to address that, when we may need him banging inside. Not saying that will happen, but just hope it doesn't turn into something like that next year (assuming, of course, he's back). This can be a very good team next year if everybody is on board together.
Its a good move he will be able to get feedback on what he needs to improve on and such. The NCAA is helping college athletes with NBA decisions now Caleb would be able to go to the combine and still return to Purdue if it didn't go well.
Sullinger averaged 17 and 10 as a frosh and shot 55% from the field.
I think Rosevelt Barnes is a pretty slick guy and will be able to maneuver this appropriately, but the NCAA has a remarkable ability to jack stuff up.
That is the absolute last thing to be concerned about in the case of Swanigan...hardest worker on the team without question, as low maintenance as anybody, and someone who made it abundantly clear when he committed to Purdue that he did so with the intent and desire to win games (and a lot of them).
He has a plan...it is why he graduated early from HS...it is why he committed to Purdue...it is why he wanted to play the 4...and it is why he made himself eligible for the NBA Draft at this point.
I am amazed at how many people so easily attack him...a guy that is ultra-talented, could have gone anywhere in the country, a guy that is a model student-athlete, a guy that works harder than anyone else and wants to win as much or more than anyone else...but who made some typical freshman mistakes and took some typical bad freshman shots...not because he was selfish, but because he was incredibly confident in his abilities.
This team should have been incredibly good this year, particularly so in that it had everyone on board...that was not an issue, nor should it be a year from now, and if it is, and Caleb does come back, it for certain will not be because of him.
When I watch him play. Every now and then I get the impression that he is playing for his future in the NBA, not for the team. I get that impression because of his shot selection mostly. He is bound and determined to take that three pointer...no matter what the circumstances may be. But, I do hope he returns. He is a hard worker and beast on the boards. Not NBA ready though.
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but as much as I hate to agree with that idiot troll honey badger, Swanigan gone..his upside is too limited to delay another year
Will someone please drive to my house, hold me, and whisper sweet nothings about how Biggie is not going pro, and that he will definitely still be a Boilermaker next year? Please?
Thx. PM for directions.
Thx. PM for directions.
What you described basically happened all of this year, outside of MAYBE 20% of the time when Swanigan played the 5.
No offense, but almost all of your predictions on games have been wrong (predicting IU to lose everything and us to win everything). I think smart money is going the opposite of you.
you can bank on IU losing to UNC, roy williams is einstein compared to Crean-stein
WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN, THIS MAN
OR THIS MAN:
JOHN HARBAUGH IS ROLLING HIS EYES AT THE VERY NOTION:
Let's just wait til end of May. I don't blame him for doing this. In fact it's expected. You get feedback. I would assume most NBA teams will tell him what he needs to do to become a better Pro. Then he will come back for 2016-2017. If he improves his chances of leaving increase. On other hand only takes 1 team to promise to draft him. Caleb is not hard up for money. I'd like to see him back for at least 1 more year.
He was wet on being one and done in HS. I'll still bet he stays though. Look how staying worked out for AJ, was considered late pick now potential first rounder with millions guaranteed.
[QUOTE="lbodel, post: 929901, 3/4 of his statement is correct. 6'9" guys that play below the rim that are slow with low 3 pt% are not in demand in the NBA. Right now that is exactly what Caleb is. I have no idea where the growing another 3-4 inches comes from.
Caleb has so much to work on before he is ready for the NBA. Right now he would have a hard time even getting a shot off in the paint. His footwork is slow and predictable. He needs to be in much better physical shape. He has come a long ways but an 82 game schedule at the pace they play would kill him right now. His shooting speaks for itself, long ways to go there.
All this sounds like I don't like him or think he has no game. That's not true at all. He has the "potential" to be a very good college player and maybe a good pro. He just has lots of improvement to make and I'm sure the feedback he gets from NBA folks will encourage him to do the work necessary to get there. Rosie knows that better than anybody and will guide him accordingly. Caleb is the perfect example of why they changed the rules starting this year about "testing the waters". He will get feedback and be back next year at PU to work on his game.
Caleb has so much to work on before he is ready for the NBA. Right now he would have a hard time even getting a shot off in the paint. His footwork is slow and predictable. He needs to be in much better physical shape. He has come a long ways but an 82 game schedule at the pace they play would kill him right now. His shooting speaks for itself, long ways to go there.
All this sounds like I don't like him or think he has no game. That's not true at all. He has the "potential" to be a very good college player and maybe a good pro. He just has lots of improvement to make and I'm sure the feedback he gets from NBA folks will encourage him to do the work necessary to get there. Rosie knows that better than anybody and will guide him accordingly. Caleb is the perfect example of why they changed the rules starting this year about "testing the waters". He will get feedback and be back next year at PU to work on his game.
I agree with you - I was just pointing out honey badger is a troll.
My lord people wish him luck and if you don't believe he's ready just keep your mouth shut. An 18 year old doesnt need to be told he has no chance and he is dumb. You guys realize this is his future career? So let him test the waters and see what scouts tell him. If he's not ready NBA scouts will tell him not a bunch of grown men on message boards.
The important question IMO is not whether he stays or goes but what kind of feedback does he get from the NBA. What will they tell him he needs to focus on and how will that translate to his work in the off season and his role on the 2016-17 Purdue team? That is where Painter needs to be closely monitoring this and be working with Biggie to maintain a mutually beneficial plan. Short term team success is important, but so is developing lottery picks (for the sake of future recruiting). Bridging those 2 objectives requires cooperation from coach and player.
He'll get feedback on what he needs to work on and he'll be back. He will then go through the same process next year.
I'm positive one thing the league will tell him is that he needs to develop a stronger outside shot. Draymond Green would be his prototype player to emulate. So expect him to work hard on improving his 3 pt accuracy in the offseason. As others had said, he's a very hard worker with huge upside. I fully expect his outside shot to become a strength for him as he develops.
I'm positive one thing the league will tell him is that he needs to develop a stronger outside shot. Draymond Green would be his prototype player to emulate. So expect him to work hard on improving his 3 pt accuracy in the offseason. As others had said, he's a very hard worker with huge upside. I fully expect his outside shot to become a strength for him as he develops.
He's not leaving... that's just stupid. 16 of the schools are still playing & their players haven't been able to declare yet. Swanigan would go undrafted.
Nonsense. You really don't know what you are talking about. Gone??? Limited upside??? Agree with Honey Badger??? Wow, 3 for 3.
Swanigan isn't going anywhere. It doesn't hurt him though to feel it out. Hammons did the same a couple of times. Hammons could of went pro as a Sophomore but if he had done that he would never play in the NBA even as a backup. NBA like all other things you only get 1 chance to make a first impression. You come in there and truly go pro this year and you are competing with fully developed players with more talent coming out of UNC, Kansas, Duke, UConn, this college that college. Especially the top programs. NBA scouts are not going to give a big contract to an unproven player no way no how. The NBA favors players who stay in college until they are seniors and come out a star fully received (blaring talent aside). If NBA has to spend money developing someone as a side project by the time that project is complete the top 5 players are going pro from Kentucky the next year. So then you are stuck on stupid playing in Europe taking minuscule pay by comparison and just looking for playing time anywhere you can get it. Not going to happen. And gotta have the resume. Some big-time NBA players are coming out in high school because their talent level is so ridiculously good. Gotta worry about those peeps too taken your goods. The earlier you go pro the more talent you have to have. Some others are coming out early two time all-americans or player of the year in their conferences as freshman or sophomores. NBA is most competitive pro sport to get a spot so I'd advise to stay and build the company before you take it public. Otherwise the IPO is gonna flop and get wiped with the mop.
Slowness is a huuuuge issue for Swanigan. It is going to be two years in college at minimum to get up to top college speed let alone NBA. His game can't hold up in the NBA until that is resolved and he would do himself major favors by remaining in college for 2 more years minimum. Shooting is average, inside play is far more difficult in NBA where speed and shooting ability are much more important. Rebounding ability fades into obscurity with capable rebounders everywhere. Shooting, speed, talent, size to athletic ratio. Swanigan needs to work to greatly improve his speed, and to become a better shooter, and a better all-round athlete before putting himself on NBA market. Hammons played it smart. He is coming out a far far better player this year than last and instead of being mediocre he is coming out probably the best center in NCAA this year. It pays to stays.
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Biggie is doing everything right. Unless the scouts say he would be a 1st rounder (guarantee's go with round 1) he isn;t going
For anyone who is overreacting to this.. Calipari just said basically his entire team is going to declare. I think you are going to see a lot more players throw their names out there and just let the NBA decide who is ready. With the rule changes declaring for the draft is nothing more than making a statement that, yes, some day I would like to play professional ball.
I wouldn't be suprised if Vince throws his name in too. He isn't that far off the NBA.
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