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who can resurrect a poor program like MD was in one year and we get a bone head who can't find his _$$ with both hands after 3+ years on the job. Durkin seemingly had some great success in recruiting some at least 4 star guys his first year and Haze can't get 3 star MAC players. Also, wasn't MD Athletic Dept. about broke a few years ago so that was why when the BT came knocking, they jumped at the opportunity to join? I guess maybe MD is a more exotic location but other than that issue how can the difference be so glaring???
 
who can resurrect a poor program like MD was in one year and we get a bone head who can't find his _$$ with both hands after 3+ years on the job. Durkin seemingly had some great success in recruiting some at least 4 star guys his first year and Haze can't get 3 star MAC players. Also, wasn't MD Athletic Dept. about broke a few years ago so that was why when the BT came knocking, they jumped at the opportunity to join? I guess maybe MD is a more exotic location but other than that issue how can the difference be so glaring???

But West lafayette is safer than College Park,

http://www.safewise.com/blog/safest-college-towns-america-2016/

Actually safest town in the B1G!
 
who can resurrect a poor program like MD was in one year and we get a bone head who can't find his _$$ with both hands after 3+ years on the job. Durkin seemingly had some great success in recruiting some at least 4 star guys his first year and Haze can't get 3 star MAC players. Also, wasn't MD Athletic Dept. about broke a few years ago so that was why when the BT came knocking, they jumped at the opportunity to join? I guess maybe MD is a more exotic location but other than that issue how can the difference be so glaring???

Let's hold off on saying that Maryland is actually good. Odds are that they are not, and we are just the indisputable most pathetic disgrace of a football program in major college football.
 
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Maryland has a ton of very good players in their backyard, and many grow up wanting to be a Terp. If Durkin can keep some of the better players home, MD could be a top 10 caliber team.
 
Let's hold off on saying that Maryland is actually good. Odds are that they are not, and we are just the indisputable most pathetic disgrace of a football program in major college football.

Agree. Unfortunately I thought today was more about how horrible we looked than them being so great. I'd be surprised if they beat any of the good programs in the East. Will have a shot against Rutgers, IU, and Penn State. Not sure who their other crossover game is.
 
Let's hold off on saying that Maryland is actually good. Odds are that they are not, and we are just the indisputable most pathetic disgrace of a football program in major college football.

I don't care who you play...4-0 while scoring 173 points in those four games...especially after Maryland last year...is impressive
 
Agree. Unfortunately I thought today was more about how horrible we looked than them being so great. I'd be surprised if they beat any of the good programs in the East. Will have a shot against Rutgers, IU, and Penn State. Not sure who their other crossover game is.

Maryland still plays Nebraska and Minny as their crossovers. Legitimately, they have a shit at 9 wins with Rutgers, Minny, Nebraska, IU, and PSU left on their schedule. Durkin gets to 9 and he should be considered for COY
 
who can resurrect a poor program like MD was in one year and we get a bone head who can't find his _$$ with both hands after 3+ years on the job. Durkin seemingly had some great success in recruiting some at least 4 star guys his first year and Haze can't get 3 star MAC players. Also, wasn't MD Athletic Dept. about broke a few years ago so that was why when the BT came knocking, they jumped at the opportunity to join? I guess maybe MD is a more exotic location but other than that issue how can the difference be so glaring???

As someone who lives in the DC area and is in tune with Maryland, you're making things sound a bit more rosy than they have been.

First off, Durkin was hardly one of their top targets. They went through rejection after rejection after rejection - after thinking they were a desirable job (and many people labeled it as such because of the Under Armour connection - which as someone who lives in the area and knows about UA, it sounds better than it truly is).

So by the time they got to Durkin, it was actually a very similar situation (if not worse) than Hazell's hiring (Purdue's top targets went elsewhere and Hazell was one of the last ones remaining). Maryland was much further along their list than Purdue was when they hired Hazell (granted, Maryland also started putting out feelers in October which is why it's helpful to go through a transition early).

Secondly, Maryland's start looks impressive on paper, but they're 4-0 against four teams that aren't remotely special (and double OT against UCF). Now obviously Purdue's 2-2 against four teams that aren't special either, no question about that. Durkin's hire was met with mixed feelings, but became better once he arrived and started having success recruiting.

However, there's also a matter of what you walk into. Maryland's not super talented, but Durkin inherited pretty decent talent. It's certainly not the talent level Hazell inherited and CERTAINLY not the talent level our next coach will inherit. Maryland's record wasn't great last year, but they were better than their record indicated, particularly in terms of talent on paper (their coaching certainly didn't help).

To have expectations that a coach will come in and instantly turn it around is NOT realistic, particularly in Purdue's situation where the talent level is THAT bad.
 
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Maryland still plays Nebraska and Minny as their crossovers. Legitimately, they have a shit at 9 wins with Rutgers, Minny, Nebraska, IU, and PSU left on their schedule. Durkin gets to 9 and he should be considered for COY

Yea if he gets all those that will be validation. I think they will get 2-3 of them.
 
yeah they've beaten Howard, FIU, Central FL and Purdue. Lets not get carried away here. They do also have the founder of Under Armour providing money so they have good facilities. As someone else alluded to they have a decent area to recruit to compared to Purdue. Boilers are recruiting in the midwest, which isnt a huge hotbed of talent, against the likes of OSU, UM, MSU, ND, Wisc, etc.
 
As someone who lives in the DC area and is in tune with Maryland, you're making things sound a bit more rosy than they have been.

First off, Durkin was hardly one of their top targets. They went through rejection after rejection after rejection - after thinking they were a desirable job (and many people labeled it as such because of the Under Armour connection - which as someone who lives in the area and knows about UA, it sounds better than it truly is).

So by the time they got to Durkin, it was actually a very similar situation (if not worse) than Hazell's hiring (Purdue's top targets went elsewhere and Hazell was one of the last ones remaining). Maryland was much further along their list than Purdue was when they hired Hazell (granted, Maryland also started putting out feelers in October which is why it's helpful to go through a transition early).

Secondly, Maryland's start looks impressive on paper, but they're 4-0 against four teams that aren't remotely special (and double OT against UCF). Now obviously Purdue's 2-2 against four teams that aren't special either, no question about that. Durkin's hire was met with mixed feelings, but became better once he arrived and started having success recruiting.

However, there's also a matter of what you walk into. Maryland's not super talented, but Durkin inherited pretty decent talent. It's certainly not the talent level Hazell inherited and CERTAINLY not the talent level our next coach will inherit. Maryland's record wasn't great last year, but they were better than their record indicated, particularly in terms of talent on paper (their coaching certainly didn't help).

To have expectations that a coach will come in and instantly turn it around is NOT realistic, particularly in Purdue's situation where the talent level is THAT bad.
You must not have heard- there is absolutely NO benefit to firing a coach in October.
 
#1 Maryland has the best recruiting territory behind Texas, SoCal, and Fla. So if you simply keep kids home you got enough talent to be a top 10 team. Having it in area and recruiting it is very hard.

#2 Under Armour has put a lot of money in and kids like the UA gear, this is something only Oregon has at this level.

#3 The school is finally committed to football they are putting 157 million just into new football facility.

#4 B1G money is fixing a lot of problems

#5 Maryland is a great job in terms of potential and its only draw back is that we must play OSU, UM, PSU, and MSU each year. However, a coach who has ambition knows he can make a name for himself beating those schools. The worst thing about Maryland is that it competes with Nationals, Orioles, Redskins, Ravens, DC United, Georgetown bball, Capitals, Wizards for the sport entertainment dollar. You really have to win to sell out.

#6 We did NOT strike out with our candidates. We went though a lot of them. DJ was in top 3 and only one who said no was Mark Richt, he went to his Alama Mater. He wasn't offered, but basically interviewed and said "Thanks, but no thanks". We got lucky with Durkin, but he was a great interview and maybe one more year at Michigan he would have been as hot as Tom Herman for a top power 5 job. Durkin coached under Harbaugh at Stanford and Michigan and Meyer at Bowling Green and Florida. Durkin won recruiter of the year, Maryland just was VERY lucky to get Durkin at the right time and pulled the trigger first.

So my wife went to Purdue and was not happy, but Maryland had such a awful staff that the team underplayed so much last year it looks like Maryland is so much better just because a competent staff is in here now.

Anyways Purdue is always in a tough spot, but if Duke can win so can Purdue with the right guy, good luck.
 
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#1 Maryland has the best recruiting territory behind Texas, SoCal, and Fla. So if you simply keep kids home you got enough talent to be a top 10 team. Having it in area and recruiting it is very hard.

#2 Under Armour has put a lot of money in and kids like the UA gear, this is something only Oregon has at this level.

#3 The school is finally committed to football they are putting 157 million just into new football facility.

#4 B1G money is fixing a lot of problems

#5 Maryland is a great job in terms of potential and its only draw back is that we must play OSU, UM, PSU, and MSU each year. However, a coach who has ambition knows he can make a name for himself beating those schools. The worst thing about Maryland is that it competes with Nationals, Orioles, Redskins, Ravens, DC United, Georgetown bball, Capitals, Wizards for the sport entertainment dollar. You really have to win to sell out.

#6 We did NOT strike out with our candidates. We went though a lot of them. DJ was in top 3 and only one who said no was Mark Richt, he went to his Alama Mater. He wasn't offered, but basically interviewed and said "Thanks, but no thanks". We got lucky with Durkin, but he was a great interview and maybe one more year at Michigan he would have been as hot as Tom Herman for a top power 5 job. Durkin coached under Harbaugh at Stanford and Michigan and Meyer at Bowling Green and Florida. Durkin won recruiter of the year, Maryland just was VERY lucky to get Durkin at the right time and pulled the trigger first.

So my wife went to Purdue and was not happy, but Maryland had such a awful staff that the team underplayed so much last year it looks like Maryland is so much better just because a competent staff is in here now.

Anyways Purdue is always in a tough spot, but if Duke can win so can Purdue with the right guy, good luck.

Comparing UA and Nike with Oregon/Maryland as equals is just factually not true.

First off, in just the uniform department, Oregon doesn't wear repeat uniforms. Maryland has been wearing these similar uniforms for a number of years now. Secondly, as a friend at UA has stated - UA is not providing anything extra to Maryland that they aren't to other UA schools. The extra stuff Maryland is PAYING for. They aren't getting this stuff for free, that's a myth. Maryland's uniforms are the same basic set-up as other UA schools.

Secondly, the UA CEO is no doubt a Maryland alum. However, the level of commitment in nowhere near Phil Knight's. Phil Knight has donated nearly $200 million to Oregon's athletic department. Plank's given $25 million as part of a new $157 million indoor facility (which Maryland Football does not have an indoor facility currently so they are partially just playing catch up with the Big Ten). That's a fraction (Phil Knight paid in full for Oregon's indoor facility).

So yeah, there are perks of the UA connection, but a big donor is a big donor. If Purdue had a guy giving $200 million, it doesn't matter if he owns a coat hanger business - Nike would make all the uniforms in the world we wanted if we paid for them. UA is not a new business - if this connection was as amazing as people talk about it, I think Maryland's athletic programs would be a bit better. I mean the biggest hype Maryland has gotten with their UA connection was Edsall's first year. He was fired a couple years later after not winning. Uniforms are a dime a dozen these days - all sorts of schools are doing fancy and crazy things all the way down to 1-AA.
 
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