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Slow Joe now for FUNDING the police

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Comm’n man make up your mind

Wait, when did Biden say he supported defunding police?
 
Wait, when did Biden say he supported defunding police?
He stayed quiet while crime escalated and at the same time didn’t aggressively challenge the Left who was being vocal in their defund the police campaign. Now when crime is one of the main campaign issues for 2022, he speaks up. Sad that it takes an election to get him to speak up
 
He stayed quiet while crime escalated and at the same time didn’t aggressively challenge the Left who was being vocal in their defund the police campaign. Now when crime is one of the main campaign issues for 2022, he speaks up. Sad that it takes an election to get him to speak up
You and Boilermaker03 just say things that are very untrue and hope that it sticks. Biden said publicly a long time ago that he was not for defunding the police. Most democrats are not for defunding the police. Most blacks are not for defunding the police. On the other hand, right wingers want to defund the FBI because they had the gall to raid a fool’s crib for top secret document he illegal was in possession of.
 
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He stayed quiet while crime escalated and at the same time didn’t aggressively challenge the Left who was being vocal in their defund the police campaign. Now when crime is one of the main campaign issues for 2022, he speaks up. Sad that it takes an election to get him to speak up
Can't help but notice that you didn't point to any instances in which Biden voiced support for defunding the police, which would be a necessary requirement for your claim that he has changed his mind on the issue to be true.
 
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Can't help but notice that you didn't point to any instances in which Biden voiced support for defunding the police, which would be a necessary requirement for your claim that he has changed his mind on the issue to be true.
During the height of the defund police movement he was quiet in not challenging the looney Left in his party 2 years ago but now comes out forcefully in support of funding the police in a state that has had a crime spike in some of its major cities. Hypocrisy on full display
 
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During the height of the defund police movement he was quiet in not challenging the looney Left in his party 2 years ago but now comes out forcefully in support of funding the police in a state that has had a crime spike in some of its major cities. Hypocrisy on full display
Yep the hypocrisy!

 
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During the height of the defund police movement he was quiet in not challenging the looney Left in his party 2 years ago but now comes out forcefully in support of funding the police in a state that has had a crime spike in some of its major cities. Hypocrisy on full display
Not aggressive enough.....I guess.

What was going on in June 2020? Can't remember......

 
Wait, when did Biden say he supported defunding police?

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During the height of the defund police movement he was quiet in not challenging the looney Left in his party 2 years ago but now comes out forcefully in support of funding the police in a state that has had a crime spike in some of its major cities. Hypocrisy on full display
Can't help but notice that you still have yet to point out an instance in which Biden supported defunding the police. It is not hypocrisy for someone who has never supported defunding police to state a position in favor of funding the police. On this issue, he's being completely consistent.

And, to avoid having to admit that you're incorrect, you've instead chosen to lie about the fact that during his campaign (you know, 2020 during the "height of the defund the police movement?"), whenever he was asked about defunding the police, he said he was against it. Even if you were correct about that, though, not being strongly enough against it for your liking does not equal being in support of it.

Your statement that Biden has changed his mind on this issue is either true or false. If it is true, you should be able to find and present evidence of him supporting the notion of defunding the police. If, instead, all you can find is him either not saying anything or, as actually happened, him saying he's against the idea (and him talking about increasing funds to mental health, etc. doesn't count, because that's not the same thing, I want to see Biden proposing reduced police budgets), then your original statement is false. Stop shifting the goalposts from "he said A" to "he didn't say B hard enough" and either find evidence to support your claim or be an adult and admit you were wrong.
 
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Can't help but notice that you still have yet to point out an instance in which Biden supported defunding the police. It is not hypocrisy for someone who has never supported defunding police to state a position in favor of funding the police. On this issue, he's being completely consistent.

And, to avoid having to admit that you're incorrect, you've instead chosen to lie about the fact that during his campaign (you know, 2020 during the "height of the defund the police movement?"), whenever he was asked about defunding the police, he said he was against it. Even if you were correct about that, though, not being strongly enough against it for your liking does not equal being in support of it.

Your statement that Biden has changed his mind on this issue is either true or false. If it is true, you should be able to find and present evidence of him supporting the notion of defunding the police. If, instead, all you can find is him either not saying anything or, as actually happened, him saying he's against the idea (and him talking about increasing funds to mental health, etc. doesn't count, because that's not the same thing, I want to see Biden proposing reduced police budgets), then your original statement is false. Stop shifting the goalposts from "he said A" to "he didn't say B hard enough" and either find evidence to support your claim or be an adult and admit you were wrong.
Let’s not forget that BSIT lives in Hawaii. Instead of enjoying the beach and all of the other beauty of that state, he chooses to come on here and show his brain rotting away in real time. SAD!
 
Let’s not forget that BSIT lives in Hawaii. Instead of enjoying the beach and all of the other beauty of that state, he chooses to come on here and show his brain rotting away in real time. SAD!
Wait, he lives in Hawaii? I had no idea.
 
Can't help but notice that you still have yet to point out an instance in which Biden supported defunding the police. It is not hypocrisy for someone who has never supported defunding police to state a position in favor of funding the police. On this issue, he's being completely consistent.

And, to avoid having to admit that you're incorrect, you've instead chosen to lie about the fact that during his campaign (you know, 2020 during the "height of the defund the police movement?"), whenever he was asked about defunding the police, he said he was against it. Even if you were correct about that, though, not being strongly enough against it for your liking does not equal being in support of it.

Your statement that Biden has changed his mind on this issue is either true or false. If it is true, you should be able to find and present evidence of him supporting the notion of defunding the police. If, instead, all you can find is him either not saying anything or, as actually happened, him saying he's against the idea (and him talking about increasing funds to mental health, etc. doesn't count, because that's not the same thing, I want to see Biden proposing reduced police budgets), then your original statement is false. Stop shifting the goalposts from "he said A" to "he didn't say B hard enough" and either find evidence to support your claim or be an adult and admit you were wrong.
You really are going out of your way saying something I didn’t say. Joe is now coming out vocally saying police should be funded. Too bad he didn’t do this during the summer of love campaign when many in his party including I believe his VP were supporting defunding the police.
 
including I believe his VP were supporting defunding the police.
At some point, if you don’t KNOW something to be true, you just need to shut the **** up.


Kamala Harris On defunding the police …​

"It is status quo thinking to believe that putting more police on the streets creates more safety. That’s wrong. It’s just wrong. You know what creates more safety? Funding public schools, affordable housing, increased homeownership, job skill development, jobs, access to capital for those who want to start small businesses, or who are running small businesses in communities.

"But, no, we’re not going to get rid of the police. We all have to be practical. But let’s separate out these discussions.

"Many cities in our country spend one-third of their entire budget on policing. With all the responsibilities those cities have, one-third on policing? Put it in the context of the fact that over the last many decades, we have essentially been defunding public schools. If anyone thinks that the way we’re going to cure these problems is by putting more police on the street, they’re wrong." —The New York Times | June 10, 2020
 
You really are going out of your way saying something I didn’t say. Joe is now coming out vocally saying police should be funded. Too bad he didn’t do this during the summer of love campaign when many in his party including I believe his VP were supporting defunding the police.
In your opening post in this ridiculous thread you started, you literally say “make up your mind”, which implies he’s said it both ways.

Droid is kindly telling you to put up or shut up.
 
In your opening post in this ridiculous thread you started, you literally say “make up your mind”, which implies he’s said it both ways.

Droid is kindly telling you to put up or shut up.
Lol you guys keep trying to move the goalposts. I’m very consistent in my statement and am 100% correct in that Joe never was as vocal in support of funding police 2 years ago until now when it’s a campaign issue. He was for reallocating of funding police 2 years ago but now is for funding police. Just proves how out of touch he is.
 
At some point, if you don’t KNOW something to be true, you just need to shut the **** up.


Kamala Harris On defunding the police …​

"It is status quo thinking to believe that putting more police on the streets creates more safety. That’s wrong. It’s just wrong. You know what creates more safety? Funding public schools, affordable housing, increased homeownership, job skill development, jobs, access to capital for those who want to start small businesses, or who are running small businesses in communities.

"But, no, we’re not going to get rid of the police. We all have to be practical. But let’s separate out these discussions.

"Many cities in our country spend one-third of their entire budget on policing. With all the responsibilities those cities have, one-third on policing? Put it in the context of the fact that over the last many decades, we have essentially been defunding public schools. If anyone thinks that the way we’re going to cure these problems is by putting more police on the street, they’re wrong." —The New York Times | June 10, 2020

Lol looks like you are reimagining things like her.
 
Lol you guys keep trying to move the goalposts. I’m very consistent in my statement and am 100% correct in that Joe never was as vocal in support of funding police 2 years ago until now when it’s a campaign issue. He was for reallocating of funding police 2 years ago but now is for funding police. Just proves how out of touch he is.
The only thing you’re consistent with is being full of shit. What, exactly, is your point, BSIT? You’re pretending to be mad that he wasn’t screaming about funding the police two years ago but he is now? And that somehow makes him out of touch? Mercy what a mess you’ve become.
 
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You really are going out of your way saying something I didn’t say. Joe is now coming out vocally saying police should be funded. Too bad he didn’t do this during the summer of love campaign when many in his party including I believe his VP were supporting defunding the police.
Lol...

Your thread title is "Slow Joe now for funding the police"
- I highlight the word "now" because it implies that this is a new position for him, that he previously held a different position. He did not.

Your original post says "Comm’n man make up your mind"
- Despite the fact that "Comm'n" would seem to represent the word "common," I'm presuming you actually meant "come on," since that's something Biden says. Regardless, your admonishment that Joe needs to "make up (his) mind" suggests that you are claiming he has changed his mind, perhaps multiple times. He has not.

Lol you guys keep trying to move the goalposts.
That's pretty rich considering it's actually what you've done in this thread by changing from "Biden changed his mind about defunding the police" to "Biden didn't support funding the police strongly enough" when it was pointed out that your first statement was incorrect.
I’m very consistent in my statement
No you weren't, you changed from asserting that Biden supported defunding the police to saying that what you REALLY meant was that Biden wasn't vocal enough. You are now, though, because you clearly can't go back to the demonstrably false claim he supported defunding, so you are at least consistent in your NEW position that you're pretending you had all along.
and am 100% correct in that Joe never was as vocal in support of funding police 2 years ago until now when it’s a campaign issue.
Whether or not this is true, him not being as vocal about it as you would have liked is not anywhere close to the same thing as him supporting defunding.
He was for reallocating of funding police 2 years ago but now is for funding police. Just proves how out of touch he is.
I would guess that he still supports the reallocation of police funds (meaning, changing the specific things that money is spent on) to things that might be more effective at preventing crime, like mental health services, from things police don't really need, like surplus military equipment. This is the exact kind of thing I asked NOT to see, because this is NOT defunding the police as it's been characterized by Republicans and, unless you can find somewhere where he's changed his position on these issues, it's still not an example of hypocrisy. Has Biden offered up any policies that would reduce police budgets? Did his proposed federal budget include less funding for police? Has he made a speech in which he said police forces have too much money?

Given your apparent refusal to acknowledge that the first thing you said was incorrect and to, instead, insist that you were actually saying something else (despite, you know, what words actually mean), I guess we're done here.
 
The Association of Mature American Citizens? Are you fukking serious? 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭
You expect MSNBC to remind you? They provide the link to the interview. Are you saying they fabricated the interview? If they doctored it please let me know.

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Lol...

Your thread title is "Slow Joe now for funding the police"
- I highlight the word "now" because it implies that this is a new position for him, that he previously held a different position. He did not.

Your original post says "Comm’n man make up your mind"
- Despite the fact that "Comm'n" would seem to represent the word "common," I'm presuming you actually meant "come on," since that's something Biden says. Regardless, your admonishment that Joe needs to "make up (his) mind" suggests that you are claiming he has changed his mind, perhaps multiple times. He has not.


That's pretty rich considering it's actually what you've done in this thread by changing from "Biden changed his mind about defunding the police" to "Biden didn't support funding the police strongly enough" when it was pointed out that your first statement was incorrect.

No you weren't, you changed from asserting that Biden supported defunding the police to saying that what you REALLY meant was that Biden wasn't vocal enough. You are now, though, because you clearly can't go back to the demonstrably false claim he supported defunding, so you are at least consistent in your NEW position that you're pretending you had all along.

Whether or not this is true, him not being as vocal about it as you would have liked is not anywhere close to the same thing as him supporting defunding.

I would guess that he still supports the reallocation of police funds (meaning, changing the specific things that money is spent on) to things that might be more effective at preventing crime, like mental health services, from things police don't really need, like surplus military equipment. This is the exact kind of thing I asked NOT to see, because this is NOT defunding the police as it's been characterized by Republicans and, unless you can find somewhere where he's changed his position on these issues, it's still not an example of hypocrisy. Has Biden offered up any policies that would reduce police budgets? Did his proposed federal budget include less funding for police? Has he made a speech in which he said police forces have too much money?

Given your apparent refusal to acknowledge that the first thing you said was incorrect and to, instead, insist that you were actually saying something else (despite, you know, what words actually mean), I guess we're done here.
Very consistent. Joe NOW is campaigning on police funding but crickets from him campaigning on police funding in 2020
 
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Lol...

Your thread title is "Slow Joe now for funding the police"
- I highlight the word "now" because it implies that this is a new position for him, that he previously held a different position. He did not.

Your original post says "Comm’n man make up your mind"
- Despite the fact that "Comm'n" would seem to represent the word "common," I'm presuming you actually meant "come on," since that's something Biden says. Regardless, your admonishment that Joe needs to "make up (his) mind" suggests that you are claiming he has changed his mind, perhaps multiple times. He has not.


That's pretty rich considering it's actually what you've done in this thread by changing from "Biden changed his mind about defunding the police" to "Biden didn't support funding the police strongly enough" when it was pointed out that your first statement was incorrect.

No you weren't, you changed from asserting that Biden supported defunding the police to saying that what you REALLY meant was that Biden wasn't vocal enough. You are now, though, because you clearly can't go back to the demonstrably false claim he supported defunding, so you are at least consistent in your NEW position that you're pretending you had all along.

Whether or not this is true, him not being as vocal about it as you would have liked is not anywhere close to the same thing as him supporting defunding.

I would guess that he still supports the reallocation of police funds (meaning, changing the specific things that money is spent on) to things that might be more effective at preventing crime, like mental health services, from things police don't really need, like surplus military equipment. This is the exact kind of thing I asked NOT to see, because this is NOT defunding the police as it's been characterized by Republicans and, unless you can find somewhere where he's changed his position on these issues, it's still not an example of hypocrisy. Has Biden offered up any policies that would reduce police budgets? Did his proposed federal budget include less funding for police? Has he made a speech in which he said police forces have too much money?

Given your apparent refusal to acknowledge that the first thing you said was incorrect and to, instead, insist that you were actually saying something else (despite, you know, what words actually mean), I guess we're done here.
lol. He changed it again. Now it's he didn't campaign on police funding in '20 but is now. Unbelievable
 
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He says nothing about defunding the police. Do you actually have something where he says he wants to defund the police? Because this ain’t it.

He says nothing about defunding the police. Do you actually have something where he says he wants to defund the police? Because this ain’t it.
Interviewer: Do you agree we can redirect some of the funding?

Biden: Yes. Absolutely.

Redirecting of funding for police is by definition "defunding." The code word used was "reimagine." You and others are trying to argue that "defund" means "disband" which only the biggest nutjobs and Minneapolis want. CNN lays this out:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/us/what-is-defund-police-trnd/index.html

In 2020 LA City Council voted to "defund" and redirect funds to social services. The exact same thing Biden said "yes" to.

https://abc7.com/defund-the-police-lapd-los-angeles-mayor-eric-garcetti/6249984/
 
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Yep the hypocrisy!

Defunding the police and redirecting funds are 2 different things. Since most blacks and democrats do not support defunding the police, they would like to direct that money for police for better training and tactics. Perhaps handling mentally ill people they encounter better without escalating into using deadly force. These initiatives will increase funding the police actually.
 
Lol you guys keep trying to move the goalposts. I’m very consistent in my statement and am 100% correct in that Joe never was as vocal in support of funding police 2 years ago until now when it’s a campaign issue. He was for reallocating of funding police 2 years ago but now is for funding police. Just proves how out of touch he is.
You are competing with TwinDegrees for Biggest Idiot on this message board. That’s saying something, because Twin is dumb as a post. But damn, you are just really showing your ass here lately.

I don’t even consider Tears or Crayfish or half the other dipshits here because they don’t even make relevant points about anything. Here you are, TRYING, and you can’t put together a salient argument.
 
You are competing with TwinDegrees for Biggest Idiot on this message board. That’s saying something, because Twin is dumb as a post. But damn, you are just really showing your ass here lately.

I don’t even consider Tears or Crayfish or half the other dipshits here because they don’t even make relevant points about anything. Here you are, TRYING, and you can’t put together a salient argument.
Lol who is the one struggling
 
Defunding the police and redirecting funds are 2 different things. Since most blacks and democrats do not support defunding the police, they would like to direct that money for police for better training and tactics. Perhaps handling mentally ill people they encounter better without escalating into using deadly force. These initiatives will increase funding the police actually.
Nice try to change the definition in 2022 from the 2020-2021 definition to create political cover. Not a single search for "cities that defunded police" comes up with your definition. Take the L. Big cities controlled by democrats slashed police budgets, often bragging about it, and with the help of Soros-funded DAs got in return third world crime.

From the left wing London Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-transferring-money-community
 
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Lol who is the one struggling
You, pretty obviously throughout this thread. I don’t even think you know what you’re arguing anymore. Politicians campaign in different things all the time. You’ve got Trump Republicans who used the election Lie to win the nomination and now take any reference to 2020 off their webpages. I mean, seriously. You’re upset about Biden clarifying his position on police funding. Get a life.
 
You, pretty obviously throughout this thread. I don’t even think you know what you’re arguing anymore. Politicians campaign in different things all the time. You’ve got Trump Republicans who used the election Lie to win the nomination and now take any reference to 2020 off their webpages. I mean, seriously. You’re upset about Biden clarifying his position on police funding. Get a life.
What is funny you guys wrap yourselves in pretzels. I’ve been very consistent: Joe was not campaigning in funding the police in 2020 but now sees the light and says more funding is in order. VP Harris had a hard time answering whether she was supporting the defund police movement in 2020. Instead she said a jumbled word salad answer about reimagined. You guys are really struggling to explain why 2022 is so different than 2020 regarding supporting and funding the police. It boils down to lack of courage in addressing tough issues. In 2020 BLM and ANTFA riots were happening but the Dems campaigning wouldn’t even touch the subject. Gutless
 
What is funny you guys wrap yourselves in pretzels. I’ve been very consistent: Joe was not campaigning in funding the police in 2020 but now sees the light and says more funding is in order. VP Harris had a hard time answering whether she was supporting the defund police movement in 2020. Instead she said a jumbled word salad answer about reimagined. You guys are really struggling to explain why 2022 is so different than 2020 regarding supporting and funding the police. It boils down to lack of courage in addressing tough issues. In 2020 BLM and ANTFA riots were happening but the Dems campaigning wouldn’t even touch the subject. Gutless
Because BLM and Antifa said something doesn’t make it Democratic Party policy, dipshit.

And since I’m not a Democrat, I don’t really care. That said, “defund the police” is and always has been a red herring. The only people actually saying that are complete ****ing idiots who don’t even deserve to be acknowledged, anymore than Republicans acknowledge and discuss the positions of white supremacy groups.
 
Because BLM and Antifa said something doesn’t make it Democratic Party policy, dipshit.

And since I’m not a Democrat, I don’t really care. That said, “defund the police” is and always has been a red herring. The only people actually saying that are complete ****ing idiots who don’t even deserve to be acknowledged, anymore than Republicans acknowledge and discuss the positions of white supremacy groups.
Sounds good. Lose an argument and take your toys home
 
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