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There is a certain poster here who needs to start eating a lot of crow pie and I have seconds and thirds to feed you!

and there is another poster who needs to stop posting his misinformation that you should not confuse Wolegib with facts!

you know who you are and so do I!

it’s time for lunch! Would you like some ketchup with your pie?
 
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Come sing along with that popular Everly brothers tune: bye bye love!
 
There is a certain poster here who needs to start eating a lot of crow pie and I have seconds and thirds to feed you!

and there is another poster who needs to stop posting his misinformation that you should not confuse Wolegib with facts!

you know who you are and so do I!

it’s time for lunch! Would you like some ketchup with your pie?
Did they franchise Adams? That was the discussion that they couldn’t do both. I was wrong when I said Rodgers had one foot out the door (turns out he had to just lose the girlfriend) but that doesn’t make you right that they will be able to keep Adams and Rodgers.
 
I have hated Rodgers ever since he singled out how he wanted to come to Purdue to play QB, and we did not recruit him hard. I forget what tv program that was on years ago.

The funny thing was he had all these other college materials showing in the program, but he made sure to single us out of everyone else.
 
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To the OP:

Are you sure about anything this doofus says?

He has a documented history of bullshitting whenever he thinks his precious reputation might take a hit…
 
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There is a certain poster here who needs to start eating a lot of crow pie and I have seconds and thirds to feed you!

and there is another poster who needs to stop posting his misinformation that you should not confuse Wolegib with facts!

you know who you are and so do I!

it’s time for lunch! Would you like some ketchup with your pie?
Dude.... for someone who should have eaten crow numerous times in the past, I don't think you should ... "crow" ... over this...

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And ... "misinformation", Comrade? That word needs to be buried alongside all the miserable tyrants who have been deposed over the generations.
 
when wrong, I've admitted it, unlike many others here. You can say I'm tired of people mentioning les miles too. A poster was asked who he liked as our future coach, and he mentions les Miles,and another poster keeps bringing it up and saying we can't believe any of his future posts just because he once said his preference would be to hire les Miles. let's be serious. a question was pose , who should be our next coach. Many different coach's names were posted. Brohm was not close to being the unanimous selection. Yet one poster who refuses to acknowledge his own choice, continues to harass another poster for over five years about his choice. My choices were Tommy Bowden and Tressel. were they great choices? Maybe not. but they were at least original, rather than copycatted.

and yes the packers placed a franchise tag on Adams with the expectations of keeping him, not trading him. So rather than saying it can't possibly happen, perhaps in the future you will use the words i believe, or in my opinion, rather than trying to sound like an insider or expert on the subject

and now there are reports brady will unretire which would impact Tampa bay's cap. are the reports true ? who knows?

why did I start this thread? because I've repeatedly said I'm not an expert, but I know as much as the rest of you. I believe there are many here who know a lot of things , but not everything. and there are others here who claim to know a lot , but basically are as dumb as myself. Unfortunately, they love to belittle others like myself who have already admitted we know little. and i ask why?

I never said how the packers would get the deal done or how they would resolve their CAP issues. I never said i knew anything about the CAP. I never said I knew anything. But my speculation has been a lot more accurate than those who berate myself and others. I just said I believed it was possible and they would find a way.

I come here to learn and to share information i have found. I'm not troll. I believe it's time some people learn how to accept those of us who are not experts.

I saw this on the internet today. it was a national sports writer's speculation. he speculated if GK falls to #20 in the draft, the Packers might move up via swapping picks with the cowboys to draft him as a replacement for Z Smith and as a bookend edge rusher with Gary. The packers are also looking at receivers in this draft as well, but not to replace Adams, but to possibly replace MVS. They are looking for a receiver with Speed. Unfortunately, that means their interest in bell is not as high as it is for other receivers. I'm not sharing this as a fact. I'm just sharing this as information I have found.

my posts are my opinions and beliefs. and also what i have found other national sports reporters have said. I have found sometimes it is beneficial to share information from national sources than to always just reflect on what the local sports reporters offer. Local sports reporters tend to be less objective and typically only offer one viewpoint. to get a total objective outlook, you need to review more than just what the Indy Star and local West lafayette reporters offer. Some people critisize hammer and rails and 24/7 reports because they appear to be from outsiders. Well sometimes a person can be too close to a situation to be objective. remember a certain basketball player's mother who posted? people respected her opinion because they felt she was an insider. Unfortunately, she was too close, and didn't see what many outsiders saw.

I offer many differing opinions and speculations. my purpose is not to be contrary, but rather to play devils advocate and make you see things from a different perspective and to make you think. I was saddened by the way some of you treated those Tennessee posters. You had to put them down and defend your turf. but in looking back, that's the same way you treat many posters you disagree with.

I've noticed a positive change in purdue 85. I still disagree with many of his viewpoints. But at least he's not as belittling as he once was

If i had said green bay was thinking about drafting GK, a couple of months ago, many of you would called me crazy and don't confuse wolegib with the facts. there is no possible way GK would drop that far; and he's a top 5 pick. I suggested both he and bell made a mistake by not participating in our Bowl game. and now both players are seeing their draft stock drop. Bell had a horrible combine. and there are teams that draft olely on combine results rather than actual game performance. although that DE from Michigan helped build his stock by his game performance. IS he actually better than GK? The Lions seem to think so. So now, I'll make another one of my crazy predictions not based on any fact, if GK falls to #20, the packers will move up to take him. is this based on fact? NO. but my crazy wild speculations have more accuracy than most of you. and at least I'm bold enough to share original ideas and speculation.

so rather than always telling others they are wrong and belittling them, how about being bold and sharing your own crazy ideas. try thinking outside the box. Rather than saying the probable, be creative and say the possible. or go the other direction and rather than being a total homer 99% of your life, open your eyes and be realistic.
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when wrong, I've admitted it, unlike many others here. You can say I'm tired of people mentioning les miles too. A poster was asked who he liked as our future coach, and he mentions les Miles,and another poster keeps bringing it up and saying we can't believe any of his future posts just because he once said his preference would be to hire les Miles. let's be serious. a question was pose , who should be our next coach. Many different coach's names were posted. Brohm was not close to being the unanimous selection. Yet one poster who refuses to acknowledge his own choice, continues to harass another poster for over five years about his choice. My choices were Tommy Bowden and Tressel. were they great choices? Maybe not. but they were at least original, rather than copycatted.

and yes the packers placed a franchise tag on Adams with the expectations of keeping him, not trading him. So rather than saying it can't possibly happen, perhaps in the future you will use the words i believe, or in my opinion, rather than trying to sound like an insider or expert on the subject

and now there are reports brady will unretire which would impact Tampa bay's cap. are the reports true ? who knows?

why did I start this thread? because I've repeatedly said I'm not an expert, but I know as much as the rest of you. I believe there are many here who know a lot of things , but not everything. and there are others here who claim to know a lot , but basically are as dumb as myself. Unfortunately, they love to belittle others like myself who have already admitted we know little. and i ask why?

I never said how the packers would get the deal done or how they would resolve their CAP issues. I never said i knew anything about the CAP. I never said I knew anything. But my speculation has been a lot more accurate than those who berate myself and others. I just said I believed it was possible and they would find a way.

I come here to learn and to share information i have found. I'm not troll. I believe it's time some people learn how to accept those of us who are not experts.

I saw this on the internet today. it was a national sports writer's speculation. he speculated if GK falls to #20 in the draft, the Packers might move up via swapping picks with the cowboys to draft him as a replacement for Z Smith and as a bookend edge rusher with Gary. The packers are also looking at receivers in this draft as well, but not to replace Adams, but to possibly replace MVS. They are looking for a receiver with Speed. Unfortunately, that means their interest in bell is not as high as it is for other receivers. I'm not sharing this as a fact. I'm just sharing this as information I have found.

my posts are my opinions and beliefs. and also what i have found other national sports reporters have said. I have found sometimes it is beneficial to share information from national sources than to always just reflect on what the local sports reporters offer. Local sports reporters tend to be less objective and typically only offer one viewpoint. to get a total objective outlook, you need to review more than just what the Indy Star and local West lafayette reporters offer. Some people critisize hammer and rails and 24/7 reports because they appear to be from outsiders. Well sometimes a person can be too close to a situation to be objective. remember a certain basketball player's mother who posted? people respected her opinion because they felt she was an insider. Unfortunately, she was too close, and didn't see what many outsiders saw.

I offer many differing opinions and speculations. my purpose is not to be contrary, but rather to play devils advocate and make you see things from a different perspective and to make you think. I was saddened by the way some of you treated those Tennessee posters. You had to put them down and defend your turf. but in looking back, that's the same way you treat many posters you disagree with.

I've noticed a positive change in purdue 85. I still disagree with many of his viewpoints. But at least he's not as belittling as he once was

If i had said green bay was thinking about drafting GK, a couple of months ago, many of you would called me crazy and don't confuse wolegib with the facts. there is no possible way GK would drop that far; and he's a top 5 pick. I suggested both he and bell made a mistake by not participating in our Bowl game. and now both players are seeing their draft stock drop. Bell had a horrible combine. and there are teams that draft olely on combine results rather than actual game performance. although that DE from Michigan helped build his stock by his game performance. IS he actually better than GK? The Lions seem to think so. So now, I'll make another one of my crazy predictions not based on any fact, if GK falls to #20, the packers will move up to take him. is this based on fact? NO. but my crazy wild speculations have more accuracy than most of you. and at least I'm bold enough to share original ideas and speculation.

so rather than always telling others they are wrong and belittling them, how about being bold and sharing your own crazy ideas. try thinking outside the box. Rather than saying the probable, be creative and say the possible. or go the other direction and rather than being a total homer 99% of your life, open your eyes and be realistic.
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I have never seen you admit you were wrong, even when shown definitively you were.
 
when wrong, I've admitted it, unlike many others here. You can say I'm tired of people mentioning les miles too. A poster was asked who he liked as our future coach, and he mentions les Miles,and another poster keeps bringing it up and saying we can't believe any of his future posts just because he once said his preference would be to hire les Miles. let's be serious. a question was pose , who should be our next coach. Many different coach's names were posted. Brohm was not close to being the unanimous selection. Yet one poster who refuses to acknowledge his own choice, continues to harass another poster for over five years about his choice. My choices were Tommy Bowden and Tressel. were they great choices? Maybe not. but they were at least original, rather than copycatted.

and yes the packers placed a franchise tag on Adams with the expectations of keeping him, not trading him. So rather than saying it can't possibly happen, perhaps in the future you will use the words i believe, or in my opinion, rather than trying to sound like an insider or expert on the subject

and now there are reports brady will unretire which would impact Tampa bay's cap. are the reports true ? who knows?

why did I start this thread? because I've repeatedly said I'm not an expert, but I know as much as the rest of you. I believe there are many here who know a lot of things , but not everything. and there are others here who claim to know a lot , but basically are as dumb as myself. Unfortunately, they love to belittle others like myself who have already admitted we know little. and i ask why?

I never said how the packers would get the deal done or how they would resolve their CAP issues. I never said i knew anything about the CAP. I never said I knew anything. But my speculation has been a lot more accurate than those who berate myself and others. I just said I believed it was possible and they would find a way.

I come here to learn and to share information i have found. I'm not troll. I believe it's time some people learn how to accept those of us who are not experts.

I saw this on the internet today. it was a national sports writer's speculation. he speculated if GK falls to #20 in the draft, the Packers might move up via swapping picks with the cowboys to draft him as a replacement for Z Smith and as a bookend edge rusher with Gary. The packers are also looking at receivers in this draft as well, but not to replace Adams, but to possibly replace MVS. They are looking for a receiver with Speed. Unfortunately, that means their interest in bell is not as high as it is for other receivers. I'm not sharing this as a fact. I'm just sharing this as information I have found.

my posts are my opinions and beliefs. and also what i have found other national sports reporters have said. I have found sometimes it is beneficial to share information from national sources than to always just reflect on what the local sports reporters offer. Local sports reporters tend to be less objective and typically only offer one viewpoint. to get a total objective outlook, you need to review more than just what the Indy Star and local West lafayette reporters offer. Some people critisize hammer and rails and 24/7 reports because they appear to be from outsiders. Well sometimes a person can be too close to a situation to be objective. remember a certain basketball player's mother who posted? people respected her opinion because they felt she was an insider. Unfortunately, she was too close, and didn't see what many outsiders saw.

I offer many differing opinions and speculations. my purpose is not to be contrary, but rather to play devils advocate and make you see things from a different perspective and to make you think. I was saddened by the way some of you treated those Tennessee posters. You had to put them down and defend your turf. but in looking back, that's the same way you treat many posters you disagree with.

I've noticed a positive change in purdue 85. I still disagree with many of his viewpoints. But at least he's not as belittling as he once was

If i had said green bay was thinking about drafting GK, a couple of months ago, many of you would called me crazy and don't confuse wolegib with the facts. there is no possible way GK would drop that far; and he's a top 5 pick. I suggested both he and bell made a mistake by not participating in our Bowl game. and now both players are seeing their draft stock drop. Bell had a horrible combine. and there are teams that draft olely on combine results rather than actual game performance. although that DE from Michigan helped build his stock by his game performance. IS he actually better than GK? The Lions seem to think so. So now, I'll make another one of my crazy predictions not based on any fact, if GK falls to #20, the packers will move up to take him. is this based on fact? NO. but my crazy wild speculations have more accuracy than most of you. and at least I'm bold enough to share original ideas and speculation.

so rather than always telling others they are wrong and belittling them, how about being bold and sharing your own crazy ideas. try thinking outside the box. Rather than saying the probable, be creative and say the possible. or go the other direction and rather than being a total homer 99% of your life, open your eyes and be realistic.
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Jesus H. Do you really expect anyone to read that?

edit: one frickin super bowl
 
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when wrong, I've admitted it, unlike many others here. You can say I'm tired of people mentioning les miles too. A poster was asked who he liked as our future coach, and he mentions les Miles,and another poster keeps bringing it up and saying we can't believe any of his future posts just because he once said his preference would be to hire les Miles. let's be serious. a question was pose , who should be our next coach. Many different coach's names were posted. Brohm was not close to being the unanimous selection. Yet one poster who refuses to acknowledge his own choice, continues to harass another poster for over five years about his choice. My choices were Tommy Bowden and Tressel. were they great choices? Maybe not. but they were at least original, rather than copycatted.

and yes the packers placed a franchise tag on Adams with the expectations of keeping him, not trading him. So rather than saying it can't possibly happen, perhaps in the future you will use the words i believe, or in my opinion, rather than trying to sound like an insider or expert on the subject

and now there are reports brady will unretire which would impact Tampa bay's cap. are the reports true ? who knows?

why did I start this thread? because I've repeatedly said I'm not an expert, but I know as much as the rest of you. I believe there are many here who know a lot of things , but not everything. and there are others here who claim to know a lot , but basically are as dumb as myself. Unfortunately, they love to belittle others like myself who have already admitted we know little. and i ask why?

I never said how the packers would get the deal done or how they would resolve their CAP issues. I never said i knew anything about the CAP. I never said I knew anything. But my speculation has been a lot more accurate than those who berate myself and others. I just said I believed it was possible and they would find a way.

I come here to learn and to share information i have found. I'm not troll. I believe it's time some people learn how to accept those of us who are not experts.

I saw this on the internet today. it was a national sports writer's speculation. he speculated if GK falls to #20 in the draft, the Packers might move up via swapping picks with the cowboys to draft him as a replacement for Z Smith and as a bookend edge rusher with Gary. The packers are also looking at receivers in this draft as well, but not to replace Adams, but to possibly replace MVS. They are looking for a receiver with Speed. Unfortunately, that means their interest in bell is not as high as it is for other receivers. I'm not sharing this as a fact. I'm just sharing this as information I have found.

my posts are my opinions and beliefs. and also what i have found other national sports reporters have said. I have found sometimes it is beneficial to share information from national sources than to always just reflect on what the local sports reporters offer. Local sports reporters tend to be less objective and typically only offer one viewpoint. to get a total objective outlook, you need to review more than just what the Indy Star and local West lafayette reporters offer. Some people critisize hammer and rails and 24/7 reports because they appear to be from outsiders. Well sometimes a person can be too close to a situation to be objective. remember a certain basketball player's mother who posted? people respected her opinion because they felt she was an insider. Unfortunately, she was too close, and didn't see what many outsiders saw.

I offer many differing opinions and speculations. my purpose is not to be contrary, but rather to play devils advocate and make you see things from a different perspective and to make you think. I was saddened by the way some of you treated those Tennessee posters. You had to put them down and defend your turf. but in looking back, that's the same way you treat many posters you disagree with.

I've noticed a positive change in purdue 85. I still disagree with many of his viewpoints. But at least he's not as belittling as he once was

If i had said green bay was thinking about drafting GK, a couple of months ago, many of you would called me crazy and don't confuse wolegib with the facts. there is no possible way GK would drop that far; and he's a top 5 pick. I suggested both he and bell made a mistake by not participating in our Bowl game. and now both players are seeing their draft stock drop. Bell had a horrible combine. and there are teams that draft olely on combine results rather than actual game performance. although that DE from Michigan helped build his stock by his game performance. IS he actually better than GK? The Lions seem to think so. So now, I'll make another one of my crazy predictions not based on any fact, if GK falls to #20, the packers will move up to take him. is this based on fact? NO. but my crazy wild speculations have more accuracy than most of you. and at least I'm bold enough to share original ideas and speculation.

so rather than always telling others they are wrong and belittling them, how about being bold and sharing your own crazy ideas. try thinking outside the box. Rather than saying the probable, be creative and say the possible. or go the other direction and rather than being a total homer 99% of your life, open your eyes and be realistic.
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You lost me at when I’m wrong, I’ve admitted it. I already admitted I was wrong about Rodgers and the cap situation as I did not expect Rodgers to renegotiate after he refused to last year and the Rocky situation he had with management all year.
I stopped reading when you said you know as much as anyone else on here…
 
There is a certain poster here who needs to start eating a lot of crow pie and I have seconds and thirds to feed you!

and there is another poster who needs to stop posting his misinformation that you should not confuse Wolegib with facts!

you know who you are and so do I!

it’s time for lunch! Would you like some ketchup with your pie?
Well well well you boasted about being right on 2 of 6 facts too soon. Now you were only right on 1 of 6. Adams sign and trade.
 
"David Blough, like most of the high schoolers competing at the Elite 11, was starstruck by Aaron Rodgers. When he misfired on a route with a receiver, he figured he had a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to pick the NFL star’s brain.

Rodgers and Blough, and about three dozen other gifted QBs at different stages of their football lives, gathered in July 2013 on the exquisitely manicured Nike campus in Beaverton, Oregon.
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Observing the Elite 11 quarterbacks, Rodgers said he couldn’t believe how good some of the quarterbacks were. It didn’t take much for him to recall being their age. Of course, when he was, nobody wanted him as a quarterback, which had actually turned out to be a very useful thing for him. Rodgers, now 30, said he still had the letter a Purdue assistant once sent him that said, “Good luck with your attempt at a college football career,” after he’d mailed the Boilermakers his high school tape."


Thats old news. Why are you posting a decade old article?
 
I have never seen you admit you were wrong, even when shown definitively you were.
When I’m wrong I have admitted it. I wasn’t wrong about Hazell. I’ve admitted many times I was wrong when nx+ and 85 and others politely corrected me. And even when I admit I’m wrong, you never read those posts!
 
Well well well you boasted about being right on 2 of 6 facts too soon. Now you were only right on 1 of 6. Adams sign and trade.
Adams was not a sign and trade. Adams refused to play for the packers after they offered him the same contract the Raiders did. He basically forced the Packers to trade him and it wasn’t because of their cap.
 
You lost me at when I’m wrong, I’ve admitted it. I already admitted I was wrong about Rodgers and the cap situation as I did not expect Rodgers to renegotiate after he refused to last year and the Rocky situation he had with management all year.
I stopped reading when you said you know as much
 
Did they franchise Adams? That was the discussion that they couldn’t do both. I was wrong when I said Rodgers had one foot out the door (turns out he had to just lose the girlfriend) but that doesn’t make you right that they will be able to keep Adams and Rodgers.
They franchised Adams because they couldn’t get a deal done. Their intent was to use the franchise tag to allow them additional time to work out a deal. Their intent on franchise tagging him was not to trade him. He forced the trade by saying he would not sign. And by saying that, the Packers actually received less in return for him from the Raiders because they knew adams had forced the trade
 
To the OP:

Are you sure about anything this doofus says?

He has a documented history of bullshitting whenever he thinks his precious reputation might take a hit…
I never knew I had a reputation for knowing anything. But thanks for saying I do
 
I have never seen you admit you were wrong, even when shown definitively you were.
It’s also because you never read my entire posts! After the first 140 characters you don’t read the rest of my post!
 
You lost me at when I’m wrong, I’ve admitted it. I already admitted I was wrong about Rodgers and the cap situation as I did not expect Rodgers to renegotiate after he refused to last year and the Rocky situation he had with management all year.
I stopped reading when you said you know as much as anyone else on here…
I have admitted many times I know very little. When I said I know as much as the majority of posters here, the intent was to say the majority of you know very little as well and are just as dumb as myself! I know as much as you has the same meaning as you know as little as myself! You talk big, but you know little.
 
Adams was not a sign and trade. Adams refused to play for the packers after they offered him the same contract the Raiders did. He basically forced the Packers to trade him and it wasn’t because of their cap.
How is it not a sign and trade? You can’t trade free agents. He signed his franchise tender after the agreement was made with the raiders and then was traded. That’s a sign and trade. The packers likely could not have played this year with him under the franchise tag. They were briefly under the cap after they cut, restrictured, extended etc with more holes to fill and no money left for their draft picks. They would have needed him to sign a deal similar to the raiders to get his cap down. The reports were that Rodgers knew Adams was gone when he re-signed, are you suggesting the packers did not know that and tagged him that same day thinking they were going to sign him to a contract?

as for admitting when you were wrong you literally created this thread to rub into the face of people that were wrong about one fact of a prior thread, and I admitted I was wrong on that one fact. So will you admit you were wrong about the other parts? That Cobb would be gone? That both Adams and Rodgers would be back? That the Bucs were way over the cap with Brady coming back?
 
i will also add the packers continue to put themselves in salary cap hell. They were already in it this year but used irresponsible and extreme measures to get Rodgers back. He has $100m in dead money after this year! If he leaves early they will be in big trouble. They have abused the use of void years where they sign players to long term contracts with no intentions of keeping them to spread signing bonuses on. They have seven players next year who will be free agents but have dead money on salary cap hits by essentially borderline fraudently manipulating the books. They just converted $7m of cobbs salary into deferred dead money and incentives that will hit next years cap if he gets them even though he will be a free agent. They have only 20 players signed next year. Their biggest problem is they have converted so much salary to dead money that they only have 3 players with salaries over $2.3m meaning they have very little opportunities to restructure, and all 3 of those restructured this year and have $54m in dead cap space next year already so they keep kicking the can down the road, eventually that will hit.

they still have major needs this year:
- only main roster WRs under contract are amari Rodgers (no catches last year) and old man Cobb. They probably get Lazard as they offered him the $4m tender. But likely need to bring MVS back or someone similar and use an early pick just to fill the roster
- lost two starters on their offensive line by cutting turner and letting Patrick sign with the bears in FA. They weren’t great or even good starters but those are holes that will need to be filled and usually not through the draft. Also two of the returnees are coming off major surgery
- CB - Kevin king and Sullivan are gone. Very thin at CB.
- Z Smith didn’t play last year but still a big picture loss
- need help at interior DL

even with 11 picks most of those guys will be practice squad, special teams, and can’t count on contributing. 5 in first three rounds but 3 are 7th round picks. Lots of holes to fill, I count 7 starting spots unfilled still from the 2021 week 1 depth chart.

next year will be tough with 8 more starters as free agents in Cobb, Jaire Alexander, Gary ($11m option), Lazard, Tonyan, Jenkins, Savage ($8m option), and Barnes (RFA).
 
It was delightful to see the Pack go down tonight. Rodgers numbers plummeted this year because the Pack was not able to keep everyone. And they are going into more salary cap he!! next season. And also get the satisfaction of a certain someone who thought the packers could wave a magic wand and make their salary cap issues go away and keep everyone. They have seven ghost players on their payroll next year eating up cap space, and the dead money is astronomical, I haven’t seen anything like it.
 
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It was delightful to see the Pack go down tonight. Rodgers numbers plummeted this year because the Pack was not able to keep everyone. And they are going into more salary cap he!! next season. And also get the satisfaction of a certain someone who thought the packers could wave a magic wand and make their salary cap issues go away and keep everyone. They have seven ghost players on their payroll next year eating up cap space, and the dead money is astronomical, I haven’t seen anything like it.
they suced all year. You should have seen my posts on the packers forum calling for the resignations of GUTE and their head coach. They were poorly constructed and poorly coached. The packers this year were the team GUTE constructed. It's sort of like they say , give me 4 years of recruiting to evaluate a coach. Well this was Gute's 4th year. The players on the field were all the ones he brought to Green bay. They lost to the lions twice. That's worse than losing to the bears.

They sure didn't listen to my desires. I wanted hem to move up in the draft and take Oliva. They decided to stand pat and draft a couple of players from georgia.

When they were 4-8, they should have tanked the rest of the season and gotten a top10 draft pick. But they decided to go for it and keep the fans' hopes up. They could of made the play-offs, but one again, they fell apart. as many packers said last night. this loss and season was a total failure, not just one person.

there will be a lot of changes made for next year. The salary cap is a mess, the players are a mess, and the administration has no clue. There are some really bad salary cap issues. One of the worst is RB Jones. he has a ballon payment.

But going back to the original point, just because the salary cap looks bad, doesn't mean it can't be changed. Every year the packers restructure somebody's contract. Every year, somebody leaves, and somebody stays. IS this the year, they finally just pack up the dumpster and say good bye and start over? If they do, it will most likely be with a new front office as well.

when you reflect back, it's not the losses that matter, but who the losses were to and the way they lost. they could have easily won 5 more games, but the reality is, they didn't. and the reality is, their losses were a result of a total team break down.

Will Rodgers be back? at this time, I'd speculate - NO. and if he leaves, will Love lead them back to a championship? NO. the future looks bleak.
 
I also never said they would keep everyone. If you're going to quote me, use my words. My words were they were going to keep Rodgers, and they had the money to keep Adams. But in doing so, somebody would have to go. Everybody knew preston woul be let go. Looking back, they should have kept Adams, and let a couple of other DBs go who didn't come close to their expectations or fat contracts they received.

Watson was a good replacement for MVS. Nobody was a good replacement for Adams.
 
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