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The last living member of the original Hogan's Heroes cast. He was born a French Jew and spent 31 months in concentration camps, including Buchenwald. He was the only member of his family (of 14) to survive. Interesting cast. Werner Klemperer (Klink), John Banner (Schultz), and Leon Askin ( Burkhalter) were all Austrian born Jews who barely got out. Klemperer would only play a Nazi if it made them look bad. IIRC he played one of the "just following orders" officers in Trial at Nuremburg. Anyway, what a life story of a life well lived.


 
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The last living member of the original Hogan's Heroes cast. He was born a French Jew and spent 31 months in concentration camps, including Buchenwald. He was the only member of his family (of 14) to survive. Interesting cast. Werner Klemperer (Klink), John Banner (Schultz), and Leon Askin ( Burkhalter) were all Austrian born Jews who barely got out. Klemperer would only play a Nazi if it made them look bad. IIRC he played one of the "just following orders" officers in Trial at Nuremburg. Anyway, what a life story of a life well lived.


Strangest and no doubt one of the most offensive shows ever on tv in my view. I enjoyed it as a kid, not knowing any better, but to treat the Nazis as a bunch of bumbling buffoons. However did they get away with that...
 

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I'm not sure I understand your objection. How would you have preferred them portrayed?
Just like Faux News and other right wingers that empathize and defend Russia every chance they get. As Riveting got older he started to empathize, for some reason with the Nazis as they were being made fun of during the show.
 

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I'm not sure I understand your objection. How would you have preferred them portrayed?
Not portrayed at all. There was nothing bumbling about the Nazis. They were the most efficient and ruthless murderers in world history at that time.

How someone could make a comedy out of them is beyond me. It would be be like a comedy about ISIS before Trump crushed them with the US military.
 

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Just like Faux News and other right wingers that empathize and defend Russia every chance they get. As Riveting got older he started to empathize, for some reason with the Nazis as they were being made fun of during the show.
Want to apologize for another idiot comment on your part?

Of course you don't, fauxpurduegrad.
 

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Want to apologize for another idiot comment on your part?

Of course you don't, fauxpurduegrad.
Let me get this straight. Because the Nazis, as you say, were the most efficient and ruthless murderers in world history at that time that they should not be made fun of on a TV show? I guess that fool, Kanye West agrees with you since he likes Hitler so much. If Kanye was around at the time of Hogans's Heroes, he would have tried to get the show taken off of the air.
 

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Let me get this straight. Because the Nazis, as you say, were the most efficient and ruthless murderers in world history at that time that they should not be made fun of on a TV show?
You don't have it straight. There should not be a comedy show about them at all. Do you think ISIS or the Manson Family are appropriate for comedy?
 

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You don't have it straight. There should not be a comedy show about them at all. Do you think ISIS or the Manson Family are appropriate for comedy?
As far as the Manson family, there is no comedy value there. ISIS, perhaps you can create a show with them being bumbling idiots. However, once you mess around and mention anything about Mohammad, you are going to die a horrible death. With today's cancel culture, it would be hard to make a comedy about ISIS without getting into Muslim stereotypes. If there was a show about slave owners being bumbling idiots, I'll be all over that.
 

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Not portrayed at all. There was nothing bumbling about the Nazis. They were the most efficient and ruthless murderers in world history at that time.

How someone could make a comedy out of them is beyond me. It would be be like a comedy about ISIS before Trump crushed them with the US military.
We've been making jokes about the Nazis for decades. Making fun of villains is one of the ways people cope with catastrophe. Looney Tunes did it with Hitler. South Park did it with Saddam Hussein. Tons of people did comedy about Bin Laden.
 
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Don't forget the 3 Stooges made fun of the Nazis also.

Riveting would love TV shows making fun of the FBI.
 

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We've been making jokes about the Nazis for decades. Making fun of villains is one of the ways people cope with catastrophe. Looney Tunes did it with Hitler. South Park did it with Saddam Hussein. Tons of people did comedy about Bin Laden.
Glad I missed all the Holocaust jokes.
 

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Are you too young to watch the show? They just portrayed the Nazis as bumbling idiots which they are.
Bumbling idiots could not have waged war, taken over France and other areas of Europe, and murdered people like they did.

More evidence you are a fauxPurduegrad. Read some history.
 

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Bumbling idiots could not have waged war, taken over France and other areas of Europe, and murdered people like they did.

More evidence you are a fauxPurduegrad. Read some history.
Dude, I’m a student of history. I know exactly what they did. The Nazis got their butts whupped by the Allies so much that they had to get teenagers to to fight. Lost several millions of soldiers and lost the war.
 

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Dude, I’m a student of history. I know exactly what they did. The Nazis got their butts whupped by the Allies so much that they had to get teenagers to to fight. Lost several millions of soldiers and lost the war.
As a student of history, what about the Nazis made you think they were bumbling?
 

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As a student of history, what about the Nazis made you think they were bumbling?
By losing nearly 4 million soldiers following a crazed fool of a leader.

Why do you empathize with them being made fun of in a jive TV show? They were the enemy, remember?
 

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By losing nearly 4 million soldiers following a crazed fool of a leader.

Why do you empathize with them being made fun of in a jive TV show? They were the enemy, remember?
Pretty clear that, despite being a self-proclaimed student of history, you don't know the meaning of bumbling or empathize.

Want to look them up and then correct your post to try to decrease your embarrassment?
 

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By losing nearly 4 million soldiers following a crazed fool of a leader.

Why do you empathize with them being made fun of in a jive TV show? They were the enemy, remember?
Riveting has made it abundantly clear that he will defend anything at all right wing. Doesn’t want anyone making fun of his heroes.
 
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Riveting has made it abundantly clear that he will defend anything at all right wing. Doesn’t want anyone making fun of his heroes.
I didn't think anyone could top bni in ignorance on this post, but you proved me wrong, iq35.

btw, bni, any luck on learning the meanings of bumbling and emphasize?
 

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While you struggle with vocabulary, bni, how do you reconcile your statement above about slave owners with your approval of Hogan?

"If there was a show about slave owners being bumbling idiots, I'll be all over that."

Would a show about bumbling slave owners be ok with you, iq35?
 

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While you struggle with vocabulary, bni, how do you reconcile your statement above about slave owners with your approval of Hogan?

"If there was a show about slave owners being bumbling idiots, I'll be all over that."

Would a show about bumbling slave owners be ok with you, iq35?
Dude, you keep taking about my vocabulary. I think something is wrong with your reading comprehension. Other than Candace Owens, Larry Elder, Jesse Lee Peterson, Kanye West and others, most blacks would enjoy a show making fun of slave owners.
 

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Dude, you keep taking about my vocabulary. I think something is wrong with your reading comprehension. Other than Candace Owens, Larry Elder, Jesse Lee Peterson, Kanye West and others, most blacks would enjoy a show making fun of slave owners.
By being all over it, I thought you meant you would detest it, as would any decent person. Sorry to mistakenly include you in that category.

How about an episode where a bumbling idiot slave owner sells the wife and mother of a slave family to another bumbling idiot slave owner, destroying that slave family, but then squanders the money in a drunken night on the town with his Klan friends? The comedy potential is unlimited, right bni?

Or one in which a slave owner tortures a slave to death because he is a bumbling idiot who did know humans could bleed to death?

Endless possibilities for your amusement.
 

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By being all over it, I thought you meant you would detest it, as would any decent person. Sorry to mistakenly include you in that category.

How about an episode where a bumbling idiot slave owner sells the wife and mother of a slave family to another bumbling idiot slave owner, destroying that slave family, but then squanders the money in a drunken night on the town with his Klan friends? The comedy potential is unlimited, right bni?

Or one in which a slave owner tortures a slave to death because he is a bumbling idiot who did know humans could bleed to death?

Endless possibilities for your amusement.
What would be funny is a slave that is about to be whupped, takes that whip and whips the hell out of the slave owner. Then the slave owner trips over his feet while running away. Candace Owens would feel sorry for the slave owner and have the show cancelled.
 

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By being all over it, I thought you meant you would detest it, as would any decent person. Sorry to mistakenly include you in that category.

How about an episode where a bumbling idiot slave owner sells the wife and mother of a slave family to another bumbling idiot slave owner, destroying that slave family, but then squanders the money in a drunken night on the town with his Klan friends? The comedy potential is unlimited, right bni?

Or one in which a slave owner tortures a slave to death because he is a bumbling idiot who did know humans could bleed to death?

Endless possibilities for your amusement.
Or time traveling pimps could travel back to the antebellum South and shoot a slave owner and it's incredibly funny.

 
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Riveting has made it abundantly clear that he will defend anything at all right wing. Doesn’t want anyone making fun of his heroes.
Bni, I have given you plenty time to display your knowledge as a 'student of history' to correct this wildly inaccurate statement by iq35. What are you waiting for?
 
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Bni, I have given you plenty time to display your knowledge as a 'student of history' to correct this wildly inaccurate statement by iq35. What are you waiting for?
This thread is quickly going south like others. What are you talking about? He referenced you. You correct it.
 

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This thread is quickly going south like others. What are you talking about? He referenced you. You correct it.
As a student of history, I expected you to point out to iq35 that the Nazis were the National Socialist German Workers' Party, a virulently anti-capitalist political/terror organization that sought to instill all power in a brutal central government. Left wing, not right wing.

Very much like other anti-capitalist governments that committed other horrific mass murders of the last century, led by Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

Some might add the left-wing Dem party in our nation through its senseless and corrupt Vietnam war, its traditional support of the Klan and Jim Crow, and so on.

As a student of history, you knew all this, I am sure, but perhaps you didn't want to show off your vast knowledge in correcting iq35's ignorance, correct?
 
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As a student of history, I expected you to point out to iq35 that the Nazis were the National Socialist German Workers' Party, a virulently anti-capitalist political/terror organization that sought to instill all power in a brutal central government. Left wing, not right wing.

Very much like other anti-capitalist governments that committed other horrific mass murders of the last century, led by Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

Some might add the left-wing Dem party in our nation through its senseless and corrupt Vietnam war, its traditional support of the Klan and Jim Crow, and so on.

As a student of history, you knew all this, I am sure, but perhaps you didn't want to show off your vast knowledge in correcting iq35's ignorance, correct?
To add. Hitler sent Nazi representatives to the US to study the Klan and Jim Crow and took back what they learned to Nazi Germany.

Since 1965, thanks to republican racist, Lee Atwater and the other southern strategy architects, the republicans took over the role of perpetuating white supremacy. Thanks to Lee Atwater, they welcomed and learnt the racist party changing Dixiecrats on how to be racist without being so overt. Taught them that they can't say the n-word all the time. You have to speak in code when talking publically about race and/or blacks.
 

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As a student of history, I expected you to point out to iq35 that the Nazis were the National Socialist German Workers' Party, a virulently anti-capitalist political/terror organization that sought to instill all power in a brutal central government. Left wing, not right wing.

Very much like other anti-capitalist governments that committed other horrific mass murders of the last century, led by Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

Some might add the left-wing Dem party in our nation through its senseless and corrupt Vietnam war, its traditional support of the Klan and Jim Crow, and so on.

As a student of history, you knew all this, I am sure, but perhaps you didn't want to show off your vast knowledge in correcting iq35's ignorance, correct?
To add. Hitler sent Nazi representatives to the US to study the Klan and Jim Crow and took back what they learned to Nazi Germany.

Since 1965, thanks to republican racist, Lee Atwater and the other southern strategy architects, the republicans took over the role of perpetuating white supremacy. Thanks to Lee Atwater, they welcomed and learnt the racist party changing Dixiecrats on how to be racist without being so overt. Taught them that they can't say the n-word all the time. You have to speak in code when talking publically about race and/or blacks.
 
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As a student of history, I expected you to point out to iq35 that the Nazis were the National Socialist German Workers' Party, a virulently anti-capitalist political/terror organization that sought to instill all power in a brutal central government. Left wing, not right wing.

Very much like other anti-capitalist governments that committed other horrific mass murders of the last century, led by Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

Some might add the left-wing Dem party in our nation through its senseless and corrupt Vietnam war, its traditional support of the Klan and Jim Crow, and so on.

As a student of history, you knew all this, I am sure, but perhaps you didn't want to show off your vast knowledge in correcting iq35's ignorance, correct?
The far right Nazi party is left wing now. You are hilarious. I know the dumber posters on the board like Skydog or Boilermaker03 would really believe something like that, I think you probably know that you're lying. You don't have to fall in line with every right wing narrative out there.
 
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The far right Nazi party is left wing now. You are hilarious. I know the dumber posters on the board like Skydog or Boilermaker03 would really believe something like that, I think you probably know that you're lying. You don't have to fall in line with every right wing narrative out there.
The Nazi party was anti-capitalist, as were Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot. That is the true divide between right and left.

I don't expect you to understand, iq35, but a real student of history would know that. Waiting for bni to confirm...
 
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Still waiting for your confirmation as a student of history, @BNIBoiler.

IQ35 and Ted both view you as a mentor and want to know the truth.
 

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Still waiting for your confirmation as a student of history, @BNIBoiler.

IQ35 and Ted both view you as a mentor and want to know the truth.
You don’t need me to confirm anyrhing. Everyone knows that they were anti-capitalism. Don’t know why you keep asking. I learned that in elementary school. Being leftist is a stretch. Like the old country saying, let’s put it where the goats can get it. They were fascists.
 

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You don’t need me to confirm anyrhing. Everyone knows that they were anti-capitalism. Don’t know why you keep asking. I learned that in elementary school. Being leftist is a stretch. Like the old country saying, let’s put it where the goats can get it. They were fascists.
Mao, Stalin and Hitler were all anti-capitalist fascists - that is, leftist fascists.

Do you agree as a student of history, because this is a great learning opportunity for iq35 and Ted and no doubt other groupthinking progs on this board who look to you for your knowledge of history?
 
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Mao, Stalin and Hitler were all anti-capitalist fascists - that is, leftist fascists.

Do you agree as a student of history, because this is a great learning opportunity for iq35 and Ted and no doubt other groupthinking progs on this board who look to you for your knowledge of history?
If that’s what they were then that’s what they were. I ain’t going to argue.