JJJ up to 20th.
The state of Indiana is certainly loaded.
https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2017
The state of Indiana is certainly loaded.
https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2017
Rivals updates their 2017 top 150
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So with 6 ~Indiana kids in the top 50 how does Purdue land 1-2 of them? I only ask because the last loaded class (2012), Purdue had some success w/ Hammons & Davis who were a ways outside the top 50, but couldn't draw interest on the 5 top 50 guys in that class from Indiana. (Of course with Perea & Hollowell that was fine)
Please don't turn this into a hornet's nest, but is it totally fair to consider LaLumiere players as IN kids? That's like calling AJ Hammons a VA kid when he went to Oak Hill. They don't play on the IN All-Star team.
Yes, 2 are sudo Indiana kids that is what the ~ symbol meant in front of Indiana. But being that school is in Purdue's backyard - one would think Painter would be right there recruiting hard??
I was about to make this same point before I read this. While the school is located within the state borders (barely, it's probably less than 5 miles from Michigan), I don't think they play many Indiana high schools, if any. And their kids come from all over the place so they aren't necessarily inclined to look at an Indiana college as opposed to somewhere else. I don't know where this Bowen kids comes from.
Indiana's LaLumiere's School....Bowen #18 is from Saginaw Michigan & Jeremiah Tilmon #24 is from E. St. Louis (I think).....for clarity.
Anyway back to my question.....with 4 Indiana kids and 2 sudo Indiana kids in top 50 --- do you think Painter lands @ least 1 of these kids?
Anyway back to my question.....with 4 Indiana kids and 2 sudo Indiana kids in top 50 --- do you think Painter lands @ least 1 of these kids?
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No clue. If we don't, it's not the end of the world though. There is good talent outside of the top 50 too.
You are soooooo WRONGGGGGG!!!! I just saw a post over at the Stye that said Thon Maker would be a Hoosier forever and he didn't even play for them so the LaLu kids have to be IN kids!!!! They're only excluded from the IN All Star team because the IU STAR doesn't believe any of them will ever commit to the Tan Man.
WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, Dang Me, Dang Me, You oughta get a rope and Hang Me ....
Sounds like the only one we have a shot at is Williams, if we don't land him we'll probably end up with some fringe top 150 guys as our highest rated. History isn't exactly on painters side either. He's only landed something like 4 top 50 kids ever.
Doubt it, but then again, I didn't see Swanigan happening either. If Painter strikes out in 2017 and goes a 5th straight year without a tourney win, the new AD might not be too pleased. Actually, he'll probably be happy as long as we are not losing money regardless of how good or bad our teams are. It's the Purdue way!
More uninformed ridiculousness. You don't freakin fire a coach that has had the success Painter has. Has he struggled? Sure, not denying that. But he also had a top team last year and showed progress and until that changes, it's just asinine to even consider replacing him since he is clearly showing signs of improving and heading in the right direction.
If you can't see it, then you certainly don't know as much about basketball as you think you do. Period.
4? I can think of CS currently. Etwaun Moore for sure. TJ was 51 so that doesn't make it. I just have a bad memory who were the other two?
Which according to the Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy, is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything.
I thought terone was as well, so ya I guess it's only three. At a basketball school like Purdue that's absolutely putrid.
Ha true story. Although I'm not sure what that ultimately says about us.....
For the highly-rated IN prospects that are actually considering Purdue, I think they can get 1 of them, 2 at best (Jackson Jr., Williams). Sasha Stefanovic, Nojel Eastern, and Xavier Tillman are the others currently discussed that I believe they have a slight chance of getting.
Cool, you're happy with Painters making 2 NCAA tournaments in the last 4 years and not winning a single game (which coincidentally was right after he got his extension, asst coaches got paid, etc.) and I'm not. I guess it's asinine of me to expect a coach to win. Again, be happy we aren't losing money. Kesselschmiede, you would make a terrific AD! Probably just what the BOT are looking for.
Who would we replace painter with that is 1. Better than painter 2. Willing to take the job and 3. Would take the same or less money? Just curious if you've got anyone better in mind
And he has won. Oh wait sorry, those years negate your argument so they don't count right? Thank God you aren't the AD, you'd have us in the tank in a week with your asinine line of thinking and having no coach in America wanting to come here because you would fire then every year because they didn't make your ridiculous expectations. I can hear your interaction with the coach now: "Sorry coach, I know it's your first year but you didn't get a Final Four so we need to let you go. I know, you had a top ranked team and are trending in the right direction but it doesn't matter. My emotional needs of the basketball team are bigger than the realistic expectations of the basketball program"
You wannabe ADs crack me up because you are so naive and blinded by your own emotions that it severely clouds any rational ability you may of had to think this through realistically. You somehow think you are "experts' based off of your failed perception of the game yet I highly doubt you can even dribble a basketball without tripping over your own two feet.
So again, as has been asked of others with similar thoughts to yours, WHO is your choice to replace Painter? As 1Boilerer has defined: "1. Better than painter 2. Willing to take the job and 3. Would take the same or less money?" I am not disputing your opinion, simply asking for your further wisdom regarding solving the problem you define.
All I know about that is that you were supposed to "Dick Nixon before he could dick you."Well, at least some *nix'en, anyway.. Some, not so much..
MP will not be replaced before or during next season. Whining about it is wasted energy.
Purdue basketball has gone through a bit of a valley in performance. Painter started hot, then his recruiting fell to abysmal levels. Our performance followed that drop in talent. Now, we seem to be pulling out of that valley. We finished ranked in the top 20 last season, and certainly expected to do better in the NCAA's than we did. Of course, we were not alone in becoming a victim of an upset last year. Upsets happen to the best of coaches and the best of teams.
Statements that say "2 NCAA appearances in the last 4 years" are accurate, but are designed to mislead by their limitations to that period of the valley. Had they reflected the total of Painter's career, the whole tone of the "bitch" would seem pretty silly, and in fact, does not reflect reality. Let's put to use the brains and analytical skills we possess, and stop this emotional silliness.
Of course, the coach is responsible for everything, at least in some people's universe. In reality, the coach has limitations on his/her contributions to his team's capability. If the athletic department cheap skated on salaries and recruiting budgets, then they must share responsibility for the results. If the athletic department was forced into those decisions by the president and BOD, then they also must share responsibility.
Odd, isn't it, that with the beginning of the previous president's administration, all 3 major sports programs began to bleed from lack of fresh talent? ...from poor recruiting? ...and loss of assistant coaches? With a new president, it looks like budgets have improved. At least Painter has got his program back on the upward swing. WBB shows some signs of recovery. Unfortunately, MFB is still in trouble. Somethings are much more difficult to un-do.
Statements that say "2 NCAA appearances in the last 4 years" are accurate, but are designed to mislead by their limitations to that period of the valley. Had they reflected the total of Painter's career, the whole tone of the "bitch" would seem pretty silly, and in fact, does not reflect reality. Let's put to use the brains and analytical skills we possess, and stop this emotional silliness.
Of course, the coach is responsible for everything, at least in some people's universe. In reality, the coach has limitations on his/her contributions to his team's capability. If the athletic department cheap skated on salaries and recruiting budgets, then they must share responsibility for the results. If the athletic department was forced into those decisions by the president and BOD, then they also must share responsibility.
Odd, isn't it, that with the beginning of the previous president's administration, all 3 major sports programs began to bleed from lack of fresh talent? ...from poor recruiting? ...and loss of assistant coaches? With a new president, it looks like budgets have improved. At least Painter has got his program back on the upward swing. WBB shows some signs of recovery. Unfortunately, MFB is still in trouble. Somethings are much more difficult to un-do.
The best I can gather is Painter is good coach who took his eye off the ball, recruiting-wise at least, while preoccupied with reasons that may have been personal, He, like all of us, should be held accountable for the entirely of his work here.
Things are again trending up for the time being.
Things are again trending up for the time being.
