Republican-led House Intelligence Committee: No Benghazi wrongdoings

[lbodel]

A committee report on Benghazi finds:

-Nobody was deliberately misled
-Nobody from the administration misled anyone
-No military assets were withheld
-No "stand down" order was ever given
-No warning of an attack was given
-A mixed group carried out the attack, not 1 specific group
-Talking points about the attack were flawed, but were flawed because of conflicting intelligence assessments
-The intelligence community's reports were not politically motivated in any way

This is a report from a Republican led committee, mind you, that was adopted unanimously by every member (12 Republicans, 9 Democrats).

But hey let's continue the witch hunt, which starts in September when the special committee shows off their $3+ million work.

This is the 8th investigation completed, and still no cover up.



This post was edited on 8/4 6:36 PM by lbodel

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/House-panel-No-administration-wrongdoing-in-5663509.php

 

[Boiler20]

...and I guess we should just ignore it all then?

Ignore that your source is liberal as they come.

Ignore that little word 'deliberate'.

Ignore the fact the American victims PLEADED, MULTIPLE times, for support, and yet were ignored...but not deliberately, mind you, so its ok, even though they were supposedly experts in making the calls to respond.

Sure, no 'wrong doing'.

Just dereliction of duty. By supposed experts.

Its funny how they all got this wrong....except for when it comes to protecting their incomes and assets / investments...they EVERY last one of them, has a PERFECT track record.

Nope, folks. Move along....nothing to see here.....move along...all is well.....

 

[lbodel]

Haha, could have seen this response coming.

OMG San Francisco is so liberal, you can't trust them! You realize they are reporting....facts....from a House committee report? It's not an editorial. It's called news.

Ignore deliberate? OK, well take the word out and show me where it's been factually found to be true other than Republican conspiracy theories based on nothing.

Nobody said the situation in Libya leading up to the attack was perfect. In hindsight, many things could be done better on any given topic. I don't think anyone would disagree. But you're not addressing the issue. THe issue is this conspiracy/cover up the Republicans have been trumpeting. You choose to ignore that now.

Not providing enough security was not a political cover-up, a political decision, etc. And to act like every person who works at the State Department is a politician or political in nature is nuts. My neighbor has a senior role in the State Department and has worked there for 35 years.

Was there not enough security given to the area prior to this attack? 100% yes. I don't think anyone disagrees that this was a mistake. But that is not the issue that's been talked about this whole time.

The issue that's been talked about the whole time was whether it was a cover-up, the administration lied, etc. THAT has been the Republicans drum beat and that drum beat has apparently been to your head.

 

[Boiler20]

So...if I commit armed robbery on a bank...along with 10 of my closest friends,....that if we all just say it wasn't on purpose, we all should get off, scott-free, and that no one should bat an eye that there 'might' be some criminal wrong-doing? ....in spite of the fact that it is our JOB to not rob banks?

 

[qazplm]

I've seen fractured analogies before

but that one wasn't just fractured, it was pureed in a blender, reconstituted, then smashed with a sledge hammer.

 

[Boiler20]

Re: I've seen fractured analogies before

I'll admit to more than a good bit of laziness in putting that together. I hesitated, but then thought...ahhh.....just go with it and see if it floats.

At least I'm honest.

But I think you'd be able to figure out what I was trying to get across...mainly that finding some way to prove that in one issue one was not incompetent, does not absolve one of the responsibility to be competent in other areas, ESPECIALLY if one has been appointed and/or elected to be a leader and is expected to be competent, and maybe even took an oath to be so. I think it is safe to say that we as citizens do have some level of reasonable expectation of competency, no matter the situation, within reason.

 

[pastorjoeboggs]

Re: I've seen fractured analogies before

Originally posted by Boiler20:
I'll admit to more than a good bit of laziness in putting that together. I hesitated, but then thought...ahhh.....just go with it and see if it floats.

At least I'm honest.

But I think you'd be able to figure out what I was trying to get across...mainly that finding some way to prove that in one issue one was not incompetent, does not absolve one of the responsibility to be competent in other areas, ESPECIALLY if one has been appointed and/or elected to be a leader and is expected to be competent, and maybe even took an oath to be so. I think it is safe to say that we as citizens do have some level of reasonable expectation of competency, no matter the situation, within reason.

For what its worth, my read of both lbodel and qaz is not that they think there were no mistakes made or that no one should be held accountable for those mistakes (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong there, guys). Rather, they appear to be commenting on the idea - pushed by some extreme members of the conservative wing of American politics - that there was criminal wrongdoing.

 

[lbodel]

Re: I've seen fractured analogies before

Correct, although I'd go further to say it has to do with MANY Republicans pushing the notion of a cover-up, conspiracy, political cover, etc.

That issue has not just been pushed by extreme members of the conservative wing of American politics, that's pretty mainstream.

 

[Boiler20]

Re: I've seen fractured analogies before

I am nothing close to an attorney, but must an act in fact be 'deliberate' to be 'criminal'? I would think dereliction of duty would be a prime example of not having to be 'deliberate', but still being criminal.

"Dereliction: The shameful failure to fulfill one's obligations. "

IMO, it sounds like exactly what reportedly happened.
This post was edited on 8/5 5:43 PM by Boiler20

 

[db]

You are exactly right

By your posts here you appear to be nothing close to an attorney.

You also appear to be nothing close to a linguist.

 

[lbodel]

Re: I've seen fractured analogies before

In this case, neither applies anyways.

 

[BoilerJS]

Re: I've seen fractured analogies before

Four Americans were killed because of incompetence at the highest level.
The Obama Adm. knew they pucked fup and created a story about some spontaneous reaction to some video.
None of the video info came from intelligence.
The American people were deliberately lied to. Right before an election.
At this point what difference does it make. Obama was re-elected and the largest social program in the history of the world (ACA) was rammed down the throats of the conservatives without allowing for any debate.

 

[lbodel]

Re: I've seen fractured analogies before

Smooth transition….Benghazi happened and then we got ACA rammed down our throats! Gosh.

FYI, ACA was passed before Benghazi happened.