Recruiting targets ?? !

[Wolegib]

There's a GBI article about one of Brohm's long time targets being on his radar, and I have to believe Brohm is still recruiting him, and gave him an offer. I didn't read the article. So I don't know how long Brohm has been recruiting him or what his actual talent level is. All I know is Brohm has recruited him for a long time, and is continuing to do so.

This begs the question. he was obviously recruiting him for Western Kentucky. Should Brohm continue to recruit the players that might be of lesser talent that he was recruiting at Western Kentucky ? or should he switch gears and start recruiting different types of players?

his last two signees were essentially quality transfers from Notre Dame and Wake Forest and not the typical type of player Brohm would have been to attract to WKU.

I liken this to the athlete from the hood getting an NBA deal. Does Brohm continue to recruit the players he's built a relationship with? or does he say Sorry, I'm at Purdue now, and I'm pursuing a different type of player ?

I'm not criticizing Brohm's recruiting. I'm just wondering if you have seen a different strategy or take in his recruiting targets ? I'll admit I've seen him target and recruit a lot more Indiana players. But he's also going back to those Georgia/Florida areas where he had already established a pipeline.

 

[Bullwhip Griffith]

Maybe he was recruiting him hard for a long time as he believed the bigger schools would be after him eventually.

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

Who says that Western Kentucky recruits were of lesser talent? Look at what they did last year and their ranking.

 

[Wolegib]

I won't say they were of lesser talent than Purdue. They were a different type of player. however Purdue's previous talent level was nothing to be proud of or compared against. . Almost any Div 1 power 5 conference school's talent level was higher than Purdue. I'm just wondering if Brohm goes back to those same tried and true recruiting paths, or now that he's at Purdue, will he go after a different style and type of athlete? will he go after the players other BIG 10 schools are going after ? or will he keep going after the ones USF and UCF and Southern miss, and Al Birmingham. and WKU are going after? Can you see a trend ? can you see a change ?

 

[ahhculdee]

He goes through the same pipelines. If they are good enough to play at Purdue, they will be here transfer out.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I won't say they were of lesser talent than Purdue. They were a different type of player. however Purdue's previous talent level was nothing to be proud of or compared against. . Almost any Div 1 power 5 conference school's talent level was higher than Purdue. I'm just wondering if Brohm goes back to those same tried and true recruiting paths, or now that he's at Purdue, will he go after a different style and type of athlete? will he go after the players other BIG 10 schools are going after ? or will he keep going after the ones USF and UCF and Southern miss, and Al Birmingham. and WKU are going after? Can you see a trend ? can you see a change ?

The player you are referring to is a 3 star WR who stands 6'3 and weighs 193 pounds and is the star offensive player at Brohm's old high school of Trinity in Louisville. He is the #8 rated junior in the state of Kentucky. If you watch his film, he is an athlete that Brohm clearly likes that he feels he can fit a system around. The kid played QB and clearly Brohm is open to the idea of scheming toward what your best athletes are good at (evidence by Sparks having his own package installed already and moving him to WR to get his hands on the ball).

My advice: if Brohm is actively recruiting the kid himself and has been for a number of years...Brohm feels he is able to contribute at a high level at Purdue and the B1G.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I won't say they were of lesser talent than Purdue. They were a different type of player. however Purdue's previous talent level was nothing to be proud of or compared against. . Almost any Div 1 power 5 conference school's talent level was higher than Purdue. I'm just wondering if Brohm goes back to those same tried and true recruiting paths, or now that he's at Purdue, will he go after a different style and type of athlete? will he go after the players other BIG 10 schools are going after ? or will he keep going after the ones USF and UCF and Southern miss, and Al Birmingham. and WKU are going after? Can you see a trend ? can you see a change ?

In all honesty, are you related to Burke or Hazell because ever since you showed up after Brohm's hire, you've done nothing but second guess every aspect of his time. Hell, you were making arguments about his crappy recruiting less than 30 days on the job at one point. Now that he has proven he can lure some talent to WL, you start nitpicking some other aspect. I'm glad you are a Boilermaker fan and what appears to be an ardent one at that...but if you are anything in real life like you are on this board, you must have been totally miserable to be around the last 10 years.

 

[TC4THREE]

I sure would've taken the team they had last year even if it were comprised of "lesser talent".

Brohm has a job to do and he's not trying to build the team by chasing after players that won't be able to play at this level. If he's recruiting them it's obviously because he believes they can be part of a winning team at Purdue.

So to answer your question I have absolutely no problem with him eyeing some of the same players he was drawing to WKU. Seemed to be working very well for him down there and if we had played them last season they'd have killed us. Let's at least get to that same level before we start acting like we're too good to recruit the same players they are.

 

[Wolegib]

In all honesty, are you related to Burke or Hazell because ever since you showed up after Brohm's hire, you've done nothing but second guess every aspect of his time. Hell, you were making arguments about his crappy recruiting less than 30 days on the job at one point. Now that he has proven he can lure some talent to WL, you start nitpicking some other aspect. I'm glad you are a Boilermaker fan and what appears to be an ardent one at that...but if you are anything in real life like you are on this board, you must have been totally miserable to be around the last 10 years.

I don't believe you want to read my previous posts from a different Purdue forum! I was a lot and I repeat a lot more negative during the hazel and hope years! I question everything! It comes from living in Georgia, Alabama Florida and the middle of Ohio st country! It's been a miserable life especially when we lost in the outback bowl after having a huge lead!

 

[nat100]

I don't believe you want to read my previous posts from a different Purdue forum! I was a lot and I repeat a lot more negative during the hazel and hope years! I question everything! It comes from living in Georgia, Alabama Florida and the middle of Ohio st country! It's been a miserable life especially when we lost in the outback bowl after having a huge lead!

Where are they?

I live in osu country and still realize what Purdue is comparatively Something you fail at. I'll bet the other forums thought your posts were off base too

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I sure would've taken the team they had last year even if it were comprised of "lesser talent".

Brohm has a job to do and he's not trying to build the team by chasing after players that won't be able to play at this level. If he's recruiting them it's obviously because he believes they can be part of a winning team at Purdue.

So to answer your question I have absolutely no problem with him eyeing some of the same players he was drawing to WKU. Seemed to be working very well for him down there and if we had played them last season they'd have killed us. Let's at least get to that same level before we start acting like we're too good to recruit the same players they are.

No. This 3 star from Trinity Catholic can go pound it. No sir, only 4 and 5 stars for us from here on out!!!!

 

[Bippus33]

I won't say they were of lesser talent than Purdue. They were a different type of player. however Purdue's previous talent level was nothing to be proud of or compared against. . Almost any Div 1 power 5 conference school's talent level was higher than Purdue. I'm just wondering if Brohm goes back to those same tried and true recruiting paths, or now that he's at Purdue, will he go after a different style and type of athlete? will he go after the players other BIG 10 schools are going after ? or will he keep going after the ones USF and UCF and Southern miss, and Al Birmingham. and WKU are going after? Can you see a trend ? can you see a change ?

I was thinking the same thing....WKU would have put 60 on us last year so the players he was recruiting could not have been that much of a step down if any.
Keep in mind folks that we had a fool for a coach for 3 1/2 years and from what I am seeing and hearing that aint the case no mo!!

 

[Wolegib]

Where are they?

I live in osu country and still realize what Purdue is comparatively Something you fail at. I'll bet the other forums thought your posts were off base too

Yes they do . Not necessarily off base, but never very positive. And too long for their iPhones to read. At least I'm consistent and never drinking the Morgan, Hope or Hazell koolaid like so many other Boiler posters did. Give me an 8 win season and I'll be positive . Until then, this is just more of the same. One should never be happy or accept a losing season. One should never have mediocrity as your focus or goal.

 

[mustard_]

I love how he starts of saying he didn't read the article.

 

[KentuckyBoiler]

No. This 3 star from Trinity Catholic can go pound it. No sir, only 4 and 5 stars for us from here on out!!!!

I would love for us to starting get the best players from Trinity and St X here in Louisville. They are powerhouses in football. Even with the Brohm name in this area, it is still going to be hard to beat UL and UK for these types of recruits.

 

[Wolegib]

I love how he starts of saying he didn't read the article.

Basically, I wanted you to comment on his recruiting in general rather than one specific player. That is why I started with that statement. I didn't have to read the article to know who the player was. They gist of my original post was not how negative a poster I am, but do YOU believe as a Purdue coach, will Brohm change his recruiting targets and start targeting and recruiting the players other BIG 10 schools recruit, or do YOU believe he will stick with the recruiting roads he has currently made?

And I saw nothing negative toward Brohm in that question. It seemed to me to be a simple question requesting YOUR opinion.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Basically, I wanted you to comment on his recruiting in general rather than one specific player. That is why I started with that statement. I didn't have to read the article to know who the player was. They gist of my original post was not how negative a poster I am, but do YOU believe as a Purdue coach, will Brohm change his recruiting targets and start targeting and recruiting the players other BIG 10 schools recruit, or do YOU believe he will stick with the recruiting roads he has currently made?

And I saw nothing negative toward Brohm in that question. It seemed to me to be a simple question requesting YOUR opinion.

And as many have posted time and again to you that you simply ignore...you have to win first! Until that time, Brohm is going to target the absolute best players he can identify, recruit them, and get them on campus. He has shown an ability to do that already with his limited time in his job by turning over almost the entire recruiting class of 2017 and the transfers he has brought in.

When Brohm begins to win, coupled with his ability to assemble a staff that are good coaches and recruiters, the higher ranked players will start to come. But to simple expect those results immediately shows your total lack of knowledge about how the recruiting game and college football truly works. This isn't Ole Miss where we pay to get those players...if that was the case, I would likely shun the program. This also isn't Alabama or USC who are traditionally power programs who just needed the right coach to begin bringing in top recruits. For improvement at the level you are seeking will more than likely take Brohm 5-6 years to sustain. Is it likely he wins 8 games in his second year? Probably not...but he could easily win 4 games this season, get to 6 in his second, and get to 8 in his third. With that type of progression and his relentless style of coaching and recruiting, he will be able to sell the program much better as whole rather than on promises. It is easier to sell truths than dreams and when Brohm starts to win, the results in recruiting will come.

 

[MilwaukeeBoilerFan]

Can we all just get along? I think the idiot who actually said that was found dead face down in a pool years ago, but that isn't my point. I think it is fine to question recruiting in hopes of it quickly improving the Quality of Product on the field. We have been mired in a dumpster fire for too long and all of us long for the Tiller days of putting some serious points on the board. I believe we'll see glimpses of that next season and hope it can be consistent, but I'm patient. As long as we trend it from 3-9 to something like 5-7 or gosh (fingers crossed) 6-6. I took note that Brohm said "300 Mile radius" is the target base. That puts Chicago and Indy in the heart of that base and will be exciting to get some of those young men in the fold once again. Just beat I.U.!!! Then, rinse and repeat year over year like Tiller did. He usually beat them like a drum. I'm not expecting N.C. at all, but to be competitive and have some 8-4 or 9-3 seasons would be fun and a very nice bowl to follow would be a good treat for the players and fans alike.
If this player is from Louisville Trinity and is 6'3" and 190+ lbs and Brohm brothers like him, then so do I. That is good enough for me. When is the last really good W.R. receiver we have had that was taller than 6'2"? I'm talking All Conference 1st, 2nd or honorable mention.

 

[Wolegib]

I've never said I expected Brohm's recruiting classes to be as great as OSU or Michigan! And some here seem to consistently misunderstand the point of my question! So I'll try it once more! The BIG 10 has a different brand and style of football than other conferences including the one Brohm came from. BIG10 football is a lot different than SEC and PAC 12 football. My question is do you see Brohm changing his recruiting philosophy to go after a typical recruit a BIG 10 team would target or do you believe he will continue to pursue the type of players he recruited for WKU ? I'm trying to leave the level of talent out of this question! Communications goes both ways! Rather than constantly criticizing me, how about trying to answer my off beat questions?

 

[nat100]

I've never said I expected Brohm's recruiting classes to be as great as OSU or Michigan! And some here seem to consistently misunderstand the point of my question! So I'll try it once more! The BIG 10 has a different brand and style of football than other conferences including the one Brohm came from. BIG10 football is a lot different than SEC and PAC 12 football. My question is do you see Brohm changing his recruiting philosophy to go after a typical recruit a BIG 10 team would target or do you believe he will continue to pursue the type of players he recruited for WKU ? I'm trying to leave the level of talent out of this question! Communications goes both ways! Rather than constantly criticizing me, how about trying to answer my off beat questions?

He will go after kids that fit his system. I dont think there is a typical Big recruit anymore now that Urban Meyer is at OSU and Franklin is at PSU.

 

[boiler800]

Can we all just get along? I think the idiot who actually said that was found dead face down in a pool years ago, but that isn't my point. I think it is fine to question recruiting in hopes of it quickly improving the Quality of Product on the field. We have been mired in a dumpster fire for too long and all of us long for the Tiller days of putting some serious points on the board. I believe we'll see glimpses of that next season and hope it can be consistent, but I'm patient. As long as we trend it from 3-9 to something like 5-7 or gosh (fingers crossed) 6-6. I took note that Brohm said "300 Mile radius" is the target base. That puts Chicago and Indy in the heart of that base and will be exciting to get some of those young men in the fold once again. Just beat I.U.!!! Then, rinse and repeat year over year like Tiller did. He usually beat them like a drum. I'm not expecting N.C. at all, but to be competitive and have some 8-4 or 9-3 seasons would be fun and a very nice bowl to follow would be a good treat for the players and fans alike.
If this player is from Louisville Trinity and is 6'3" and 190+ lbs and Brohm brothers like him, then so do I. That is good enough for me. When is the last really good W.R. receiver we have had that was taller than 6'2"? I'm talking All Conference 1st, 2nd or honorable mention.

Deangelo Yancey comes to mind.

http://btn.com/2016/11/30/2016-all-...d-winners-saquon-barkley-reels-in-two-awards/

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I've never said I expected Brohm's recruiting classes to be as great as OSU or Michigan! And some here seem to consistently misunderstand the point of my question! So I'll try it once more! The BIG 10 has a different brand and style of football than other conferences including the one Brohm came from. BIG10 football is a lot different than SEC and PAC 12 football. My question is do you see Brohm changing his recruiting philosophy to go after a typical recruit a BIG 10 team would target or do you believe he will continue to pursue the type of players he recruited for WKU ? I'm trying to leave the level of talent out of this question! Communications goes both ways! Rather than constantly criticizing me, how about trying to answer my off beat questions?

You lost me at different brand of football. Outside of Whisky, UM, and Iowa...all other programs ran a versiom of the spread.

I don't want Brohm to be something he is not. That's what got Bruce Weber fired at Illinois and what got Tiller in trouble here.

 

[Clubcar7]

Yes they do . Not necessarily off base, but never very positive. And too long for their iPhones to read. At least I'm consistent and never drinking the Morgan, Hope or Hazell koolaid like so many other Boiler posters did. Give me an 8 win season and I'll be positive . Until then, this is just more of the same. One should never be happy or accept a losing season. One should never have mediocrity as your focus or goal.

Totally agree...
Brohm
1st year toilet bowl
2nd year toilet bowl
3rd year might get to Motor City Bowl
4th year poor recruiting back to toilet Bowl
5th year fired. Joins Hope and Haze in the Purdue Football firing Hall of Fame.

 

[nat100]

Totally agree...
Brohm
1st year toilet bowl
2nd year toilet bowl
3rd year might get to Motor City Bowl
4th year poor recruiting back to toilet Bowl
5th year fired. Joins Hope and Haze in the Purdue Football firing Hall of Fame.

That type of performance gets you a statue in Bloomington

 

[Wolegib]

Thanks. Those are much bettter answers to my question except the toilet bowl replies. When Tiller came to Purdue, he brought a different style of offense to Purdue. As I look at Brohm's WKU teams, they also looked like a different style of play than other BIG 10 teams. My main question is do you believe Brohm will recruit a different type of athlete now that he's at Purdue, or will he continue to go after what worked for him previously? I would ask the same question if Painter was replaced by Quonzo.

 

[Boiler1219]

Thanks. Those are much bettter answers to my question except the toilet bowl replies. When Tiller came to Purdue, he brought a different style of offense to Purdue. As I look at Brohm's WKU teams, they also looked like a different style of play than other BIG 10 teams. My main question is do you believe Brohm will recruit a different type of athlete now that he's at Purdue, or will he continue to go after what worked for him previously? I would ask the same question if Painter was replaced by Quonzo.

He's not going to change what's been successful for him

 

[boilerbusdriver]

He's not going to change what's been successful for him

His scheme has been successful with 2* and 3* star players at WKU, will his scheme work here, yes I believe it will, but I do believe we will certainly have too upgrade the talent level compared to what "that other guy" recruited too Purdue. Winning is always important, but opportunities to play, great educational choices, B1G School, belief in yourself and in the Coaches too draw out your talent too the highest level, will attract Top Notch players. Me really believes with AD Bobinski, CJB and Staff, the New Performance Center, there are no excuses not too recruit well.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Thanks. Those are much bettter answers to my question except the toilet bowl replies. When Tiller came to Purdue, he brought a different style of offense to Purdue. As I look at Brohm's WKU teams, they also looked like a different style of play than other BIG 10 teams. My main question is do you believe Brohm will recruit a different type of athlete now that he's at Purdue, or will he continue to go after what worked for him previously? I would ask the same question if Painter was replaced by Quonzo.

I saw a fake flee-flicker draw yesterday...that's something I don't think I have ever seen before.

Answering your question more directly:

Brohm has stated he will build his offense around what suits the ability of his players best. I think he will go and get the very best players he feels he can get to campus and go from there. That is a totally different approach than the previous two staffs at Purdue. You clearly saw the opposite of that with trying to make Rob Henry a drop back passer in Hazell's first season. I am guessing had that been Brohm, you would have seen a more read-option and spread run attack similar to what NU runs instead of what turned out to be a horrific mishmash of whatever it was.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

I saw a fake flee-flicker draw yesterday...that's something I don't think I have ever seen before.

Answering your question more directly:

Brohm has stated he will build his offense around what suits the ability of his players best. I think he will go and get the very best players he feels he can get to campus and go from there. That is a totally different approach than the previous two staffs at Purdue. You clearly saw the opposite of that with trying to make Rob Henry a drop back passer in Hazell's first season. I am guessing had that been Brohm, you would have seen a more read-option and spread run attack similar to what NU runs instead of what turned out to be a horrific mishmash of whatever it was.

Yeah. I thought the fake flea flicker was kinda cool. It's clear reading Carmin's latest article that Brohm is not happy with what he has and is going to do everything he can to find talent now who can play now. The guy's a winner; he won't take losing lightly.