Reclassifying

[nagemj02]

What factors typically play into allowing a recruit to reclassify and move up or down a class? When someone is allowed to move up a class (a la Swanigan going from 2016 to 2015), is it due to them being given that opportunity if they previously repeated a year in grade or high school? I've wondered how this works. I know each case is different. It seems to have become more common-place in college hoops over the past 5-10 years.

I understand why programs are happy to have recruits move up a class: in Purdue's case, it would be nice to have a Bryan Penn-Johnson or Emmanuel Dowuona fill out this coming season's roster to gear up for a championship season.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

What factors typically play into allowing a recruit to reclassify and move up or down a class? When someone is allowed to move up a class (a la Swanigan going from 2016 to 2015), is it due to them being given that opportunity if they previously repeated a year in grade or high school? I've wondered how this works. I know each case is different. It seems to have become more common-place in college hoops over the past 5-10 years.

I understand why programs are happy to have recruits move up a class: in Purdue's case, it would be nice to have a Bryan Penn-Johnson or Emmanuel Dowuona fill out this coming season's roster to gear up for a championship season.

In Indiana, its as simple as gettingh all of your core 40 credits. I have several friends whose kids have done it, though not for athletic purposes. Swanigan must have worked his tail off in high school. No shock there.

 

[Do Dah Day]

In Indiana, its as simple as gettingh all of your core 40 credits. I have several friends whose kids have done it, though not for athletic purposes. Swanigan must have worked his tail off in high school. No shock there.

Exactly - the player must have attained a HS degree before going to college.

 

[kevindub]

You would be surprised how easily that can be accomplished by eliminating study halls and taking additional courses.

 

[Wolegib]

Do high schools have test out procedures where a student can test out of a class for credit like colleges do?

 

[Do Dah Day]

Do high schools have test out procedures where a student can test out of a class for credit like colleges do?

Not that I've ever seen. The "test-out" is really a "test-into" a higher level class. The Core-40 is pretty structured and required.

There are a lot of dual-credit classes now, that give college credits along with HS credits, so students can enter college with a lot of credits if they have chosen those classes.

 

[Boiler Buck]

In any case it is highly unlikely that anyone is reclassifyinng this summer to fill out this upcoming season's roster.

 

[Wolegib]

My thought is for Purdue, you need 4 years of high school math. At a college, you can test out of math through calculus. I'm just wondering if high schools offer math or English courses online with test out provisions to complete the class without having to attend it.

in that way, if all a student needs to graduate high school is one course of math, and an English course, complete it online during your Junior year. and get your diploma a year early. Our school didn't offer this option. I'm just wondering if high schools today do.

 

[Frankie611]

My thought is for Purdue, you need 4 years of high school math. At a college, you can test out of math through calculus. I'm just wondering if high schools offer math or English courses online with test out provisions to complete the class without having to attend it.

in that way, if all a student needs to graduate high school is one course of math, and an English course, complete it online during your Junior year. and get your diploma a year early. Our school didn't offer this option. I'm just wondering if high schools today do.

I took no math my senior year and went on to do Purdue engineering. I finished the calc AP my junior year and the next step was to go to IPFW a few times a week which I didn't want to do. Ironically I didn't take physics because at my school it was considered a blow off class. Rose Hulman rejected my app because of it. Blessing in disguise. Nerds!

 

[Do Dah Day]

My thought is for Purdue, you need 4 years of high school math. At a college, you can test out of math through calculus. I'm just wondering if high schools offer math or English courses online with test out provisions to complete the class without having to attend it.

in that way, if all a student needs to graduate high school is one course of math, and an English course, complete it online during your Junior year. and get your diploma a year early. Our school didn't offer this option. I'm just wondering if high schools today do.

I can't define the routes different players take to reclassify early - Below is Indiana's Core-40 requirements. 8 semester of English, 6+2 of math, 6 of science. There are online classes that qualify, but it is not normal in Indiana take math online. Players who might reclassify are normally too busy to take summer school. Each state can have different requirements.
http://webdb.ftcsc.k12.in.us/sites/default/files/FCHS/Guidance/Graduation Requirements.pdf

 

[nagemj02]

In any case it is highly unlikely that anyone is reclassifyinng this summer to fill out this upcoming season's roster.

maybe/maybe not

who knows

It certainly would add depth and benefit this team to have a consistent shot-blocking threat such as a Bryan Penn-Johnson.


Guards/Wings/Forwards:

-Thompson
-C. Edwards
-Eastern
-V. Edwards
-Wheeler
-Mathias
-Cline
-Stefanovic (if he doesn't redshirt)


Bigs:

-Haas
-Haarms
-Taylor
-Penn-Johnson
-Ewing

 

[02Boilermaker]

nagemj, this article is specifically about the possibility of Bagley reclassifying, but it might answer some of your original questions: Bagley possibly reclassifying

 

[ChoiceBeef]

nagemj, this article is specifically about the possibility of Bagley reclassifying, but it might answer some of your original questions: Bagley possibly reclassifying

Read this morning that one of their 5th year PF/C transfers from William & Mary has decided to "decommit" possibly paving the way for Bagley to make the switch.

It is interesting to note that they again will have an extremely thin front court

 

[nagemj02]

Read this morning that one of their 5th year PF/C transfers from William & Mary has decided to "decommit" possibly paving the way for Bagley to make the switch.

It is interesting to note that they again will have an extremely thin front court

Lol, it's more like the KU staff telling Jack Whitman to get out of there so that they can make room for Bagley. That would be like the PU staff telling Stefanovic to play prep school ball for a year so that they can make room (although technically, there's still an open scholarship WITH SS on the roster) for player "X" this coming season.

 

[ChoiceBeef]

Lol, it's more like the KU staff telling Jack Whitman to get out of there so that they can make room for Bagley. That would be like the PU staff telling Stefanovic to play prep school ball for a year so that they can make room (although technically, there's still an open scholarship WITH SS on the roster) for player "X" this coming season.

Ha - yeah that is probably more accurate assessment of what happened. Also big gamble by Self especially if he doesn't switch or commit.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Lol, it's more like the KU staff telling Jack Whitman to get out of there so that they can make room for Bagley. That would be like the PU staff telling Stefanovic to play prep school ball for a year so that they can make room (although technically, there's still an open scholarship WITH SS on the roster) for player "X" this coming season.

Not true. Kansas only had 10 scholarship players, now they are down to 9. Only 3 or which are bigs. No reason for self to force him out.

 

[nagemj02]

Not true. Kansas only had 10 scholarship players, now they are down to 9. Only 3 or which are bigs. No reason for self to force him out.

Are you counting their three redshirt transfers (Charlie Moore, Dedric Lawson, K.J. Lawson) that will be sitting out next season? Even if you are, Kansas is constantly trying to make room for more players, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them trying to add several more guys to their 2018 class.