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Purdue/Michigan overview

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When: Saturday, February 25th

Where: Crisler Center, Ann Arbor, MI

Tip-Off: 4 (ET)

TV: ESPN2



Head Coaches:

Purdue: Matt Painter (12th season)

Michigan: John Beilein (10th season)


Purdue's Team Stats: http://www.purduesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2016-2017/teamcume.html#TEAM.TEM

Michigan's Team Stats:



Projected Starters:

Purdue

1/2 #3 Carsen Edwards 6'0 185 (Fr.): averaging 10.3 PPG, 2.6 RPG, 1 SPG, 2 APG, 38% FG's (104-273), 74% FT's (40-54), 34% 3PT's (41-120), and 23.9 MPG in 28 GP this season

2/1 #11 P.J. Thompson 5'10 175 (Jr.): averaging 7.4 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 1.1 SPG, 3.2 APG, 45% FG's (69-154), 79% FT's (26-33), 40% 3PT's (44-110), and 28.1 MPG in 28 GP this season

2 #31 Dakota Mathias 6'4 195 (Jr.): averaging 9.9 PPG, 3.7 RPG, 3.8 APG, 49% FG's (95-196), 84% FT's (27-32), 48% 3PT's (60-124), and 30.8 MPG in 28 GP this season

3/4 #12 Vince Edwards 6'8 215 (Jr.): averaging 11.8 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 3.1 APG, 47% FG's (117-250), 82% FT's (54-66), 44% 3PT's (41-93), and 27.6 MPG in 28 GP this season

5/4 #50 Caleb "Biggie" Swanigan 6'9 245 (So.): averaging 18.6 PPG, 12.9 RPG, 2.9 APG, 3.4 TPG, 2.8 FPG, 54% FG's (177-327), 78% FT's (137-175), 47% 3PT's (29-62), and 31.8 MPG in 28 GP this season


Michigan

1 #10 Derrick Walton 6'1 185 (Sr.): averaging 14.3 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 1 SPG, 4 APG, 43% FG's (115-267), 87% FT's (104-120), 42% 3PT's (67-160), and 34 MPG in 28 GP this season

2/1 #12 Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman 6'3 180 (Jr.): averaging 8.9 PPG, 2.6 RPG, 2 APG, 45% FG's (85-190), 73% FT's (46-63), 39% 3PT's (32-83), and 29.2 MPG in 28 GP this season

3/2 #21 Zak Irvin 6'6 215 (Sr.): averaging 12.8 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 3.2 APG, 2 TPG, 42% FG's (137-325), 69% FT's (47-68), 32% 3PT's (38-118), and 34.9 MPG in 28 GP this season

4/5 #13 Moritz "Mo" Wagner (pronounced vog-ner) 6'11 230 (So.): averaging 12.2 PPG, 4.2 RPG, 2.6 FPG, 57% FG's (124-218), 73% FT's (59-81), 42% 3PT's (34-82), and 24 MPG in 28 GP this season

4/5 #5 D.J. Wilson 6'10 225 (RS So.): averaging 10.4 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 1.4 BPG, 55% FG's (114-209), 83% FT's (33-40), 39% 3PT's (29-74), and 30.2 MPG in 28 GP this season



Projected Reinforcements:

Purdue

1 #55 Michael "Spike" Albrecht 5'11 180 (RS Sr.) (graduate transfer from Michigan!): averaging 1.8 PPG, 26% FG's (9-35), 94% FT's (16-17), 18% 3PT's (4-22), and 12.8 MPG in 21 GP this season

2 #14 Ryan Cline 6'5 190 (So.): averaging 5.9 PPG, 43% FG's (47-110), 82% FT's (9-11), 43% 3PT's (39-90), and 21 MPG in 24 GP this season

5 #44 Isaac Haas 7'2 280 (Jr.): averaging 13.4 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 2.4 TPG, 60% FG's (131-220), 72% FT's (113-158), no 3PT's attempted, and 20.9 MPG in 28 GP this season


Michigan

1/2 #3 Xavier Simpson 5'11 170 (Fr.): averaging 1.4 PPG, 32% FG's (10-31), 73% FT's (16-22), 29% 3PT's (4-14), and 8.9 MPG in 28 GP this season

3/2 #22 Duncan Robinson 6'7 215 (RS Jr.): averaging 8.1 PPG, 45% FG's (78-172), 81% FT's (21-26), 41% 3PT's (49-121), and 19.8 MPG in 28 GP this season

4/5 #34 Mark Donnal 6'8 220 (RS Jr.): averaging 4.5 PPG, 2.4 RPG, 65% FG's (44-68), 78% FT's (31-40), 46% 3PT's (6-13), and 13.6 MPG in 28 GP this season



Who Might Play:

Purdue

not likely anyone else


Michigan

2/3 #23 Ibi Watson 6'5 185 (Fr.): averaging 1.2 PPG, 32% FG's (9-28), 75% FT's (3-4), 6% 3PT's (1-18), and 4.3 MPG in 18 GP this season

5 #15 Jon Teske 6'11 240 (Fr.): averaging 0.3 PPG, 14% FG's (1-7), 50% FT's (3-6), 0% 3PT's (0-1), and 3.1 MPG in 18 GP this season
 
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Walton is going to be a very tough matchup for us IMO. Reminds me some of Nate Mason, who we all know gave us a lot of trouble. Will need PJ to be on his game and the bigs have to be ready to hedge out after each screen.
 
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Walton is going to be a very tough matchup for us IMO. Reminds me some of Nate Mason, who we all know gave us a lot of trouble. Will need PJ to be on his game and the bigs have to be ready to hedge out after each screen.

They could defend Walton differently (like they should have with Mason: maybe as simple as putting CE on him) instead of Painter fruitlessly hoping that Thompson will magically become a quicker and more athletic player for a two-hour time period.
 
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I hate this game...........will be a tough one to win........Mich losing to Minny puts them as a bubble team.....they desperately need to win.
 
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Make them put the ball on the floor instead of shooting set 3's. Keep Walton out of the lane and collapsing our defense. If we can do those things we will be fine.
 
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I hate this game...........will be a tough one to win........Mich losing to Minny puts them as a bubble team.....they desperately need to win.

Fortunately they play tonight at Rutgers. They win that one and maybe they won't have quite the same edge Saturday as they would coming off a loss.
 
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Not that it makes any difference to the outcome, but having what just happened last night and the way the game ended in Ann Arbor last year would tend to make some think the Boilers are better able to handle this game.

Not to rerun the horror show form 2016, but recall Purdue was up 56-50 with 2+ minutes left....sound familiar? Michigan scored the last 11 to win 61-56 as Purdue had multiple close range shots that couldn't find their way in to the basket.

Rahkman has had some moments against Purdue, and I agree Walton will be another key. I think Purdue should be able to run its offense and get into its sets better than against Penn State, but Michigan poses much more of a threat offensively.....they ran Indiana and Michigan State out of the gym. Same as last night.....if Purdue is disciplined and executes without a boatload of turnovers, I like their chances. With a first half effort like last night.....they probably won't have enough shovels to dig out of the hole.
 
When: Saturday, February 25th

Where: Crisler Center, Ann Arbor, MI

Tip-Off: 4 (ET)

TV: ESPN2


Head Coaches:

Purdue: Matt Painter (12th season)

Michigan: John Beilein (10th season)



Projected Starters:

Purdue

1/2 #3 Carsen Edwards 6'0 185 (Fr.): averaging 10.3 PPG, 2.6 RPG, 1 SPG, 2 APG, 38% FG's (104-273), 74% FT's (40-54), 34% 3PT's (41-120), and 23.9 MPG in 28 GP this season

2/1 #11 P.J. Thompson 5'10 175 (Jr.): averaging 7.4 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 1.1 SPG, 3.2 APG, 45% FG's (69-154), 79% FT's (26-33), 40% 3PT's (44-110), and 28.1 MPG in 28 GP this season

2 #31 Dakota Mathias 6'4 195 (Jr.): averaging 9.9 PPG, 3.7 RPG, 3.8 APG, 49% FG's (95-196), 84% FT's (27-32), 48% 3PT's (60-124), and 30.8 MPG in 28 GP this season

3/4 #12 Vince Edwards 6'8 215 (Jr.): averaging 11.8 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 3.1 APG, 47% FG's (117-250), 82% FT's (54-66), 44% 3PT's (41-93), and 27.6 MPG in 28 GP this season

5/4 #50 Caleb "Biggie" Swanigan 6'9 245 (So.): averaging 18.6 PPG, 12.9 RPG, 2.9 APG, 3.4 TPG, 2.8 FPG, 54% FG's (177-327), 78% FT's (137-175), 47% 3PT's (29-62), and 31.8 MPG in 28 GP this season


Michigan













Projected Reinforcements:

Purdue

1 #55 Michael "Spike" Albrecht 5'11 180 (RS Sr.) (graduate transfer from Michigan!): averaging 1.8 PPG, 26% FG's (9-35), 94% FT's (16-17), 18% 3PT's (4-22), and 12.8 MPG in 21 GP this season

2 #14 Ryan Cline 6'5 190 (So.): averaging 5.9 PPG, 43% FG's (47-110), 82% FT's (9-11), 43% 3PT's (39-90), and 21 MPG in 24 GP this season

5 #44 Isaac Haas 7'2 280 (Jr.): averaging 13.4 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 2.4 TPG, 60% FG's (131-220), 72% FT's (113-158), no 3PT's attempted, and 20.9 MPG in 28 GP this season


Michigan








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Five on nobody, my kind of game. I still put the over under on turnovers at 10.
 
Wear them out on D. This is their 4th game in 10 days, and their offense can stagnate if the 3's aren't falling. Also, Walton is the type of player to give us fits, but he doesn't have a second or third really good ball handler with him on the floor to spread the attack.
 
Maybe Spike will have this type of performance on Saturday:



LOL, it would be awesome.
 
Thankfully, they have to play Rutgers before us

Yes, I was just about to say that. Michigan plays at Rutgers this evening. Tip-off is just after 6:30 (i.e. in about 5 minutes) and the game will be on BTN, for those of you interested in watching it.
 
I'm hoping we unveil our new 1-2-1-1 zone that is so baffling to us the opponent will fall apart in confusion.
 
Not that it makes any difference to the outcome, but having what just happened last night and the way the game ended in Ann Arbor last year would tend to make some think the Boilers are better able to handle this game.

Not to rerun the horror show form 2016, but recall Purdue was up 56-50 with 2+ minutes left....sound familiar? Michigan scored the last 11 to win 61-56 as Purdue had multiple close range shots that couldn't find their way in to the basket.

Rahkman has had some moments against Purdue, and I agree Walton will be another key. I think Purdue should be able to run its offense and get into its sets better than against Penn State, but Michigan poses much more of a threat offensively.....they ran Indiana and Michigan State out of the gym. Same as last night.....if Purdue is disciplined and executes without a boatload of turnovers, I like their chances. With a first half effort like last night.....they probably won't have enough shovels to dig out of the hole.
Rahkman was great at Mackey last year. Michigan can score...no doubt. Haven't watched them hardly any, but would think pounding inside would pay dividends for teh Boilers as they have some length, not much girth and not sure they are athletic studs as far as jumping. It was last year that Biggie has his way early and then Irvin had his way later in the game..they won't be guarding each other this year...and I think Biggie may have an edge since he was more subdued in the PSU game. Is there any reason to think that making Michigan play D for some duration hurts Purdue...but to run WHEN the break is there...steal 8-10 points if possible. I think this game will give Purdue the Big Ten season champs if they can get a W
 
Rahkman was great at Mackey last year. Michigan can score...no doubt. Haven't watched them hardly any, but would think pounding inside would pay dividends for teh Boilers as they have some length, not much girth and not sure they are athletic studs as far as jumping. It was last year that Biggie has his way early and then Irvin had his way later in the game..they won't be guarding each other this year...and I think Biggie may have an edge since he was more subdued in the PSU game. Is there any reason to think that making Michigan play D for some duration hurts Purdue...but to run WHEN the break is there...steal 8-10 points if possible. I think this game will give Purdue the Big Ten season champs if they can get a W

I'd like to see Wagner in foul trouble early on. They aren't the same when he isn't on the floor or playing well. Walton is the stud but Wagner is the one who opens their offense up... like VE for Purdue.
 
I think CE and VE need to have good offensive games in order to really open things up inside more for Swanigan and Haas. If that happens, the Boilers will be in good shape.
 
I'd like to see Wagner in foul trouble early on. They aren't the same when he isn't on the floor or playing well. Walton is the stud but Wagner is the one who opens their offense up... like VE for Purdue.
Teh two bigs...they are my concern...how well they play...and somewhat less Irvin. Don't think Walton will beat Purdue.

It is senior night...Dakich calling the game...his son a walk on at Michigan and his asst. coach now an asst. coach at Michigan (Meyer)...who was an asst at Purdue a few decades ago...1980 time frame?
 
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