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Purdue in contact with Louisville decommit

the 4 * player Antwon jones just decommited from Ok St. he's 6'6 and is listed as a shooting guard. Purdue was not involved in his original recruitment.
 
Ramey was offered by Purdue once before, but didn't make Ramey's top 13. I think that this one is most likely going to go to spring and it will be interesting to see if Purdue is in the mix this time.
 
Painter has made it clear that team culture trumps talent. I don't worry about him chasing after highly ranked players with attitudes.
Which clearly was the right thing to do in the wake of all this crap coming out. That and we have gone through that enough times already.

I've never been happier to have CMP as our coach as I am right now.
 
Painter has made it clear that team culture trumps talent. I don't worry about him chasing after highly ranked players with attitudes.
I wonder if the article Matt wrote laying out his Approach to recruiting was foreshadowing what we are seeing now. He mentioned that some players he thought he really wanted would fall off Purdues radar because of something he would learn about them.
 
I wonder if the article Matt wrote laying out his Approach to recruiting was foreshadowing what we are seeing now. He mentioned that some players he thought he really wanted would fall off Purdues radar because of something he would learn about them.


I have to believe Matt knew something was brewing and about to be made public. Matt went both at length and in great detail several months ago about the type of person and athlete he recruits. this is something he hasn't elaborated very much about in the past. and it was something very few other coaches will discuss or bring to the attention under public scrutiny.

I often post something that only a few people realize what I'm talking about. Looking back at his press conference when he said those words about the athlete he recruits, I believe Matt was basically saying I run a clean program where many other college coaches don't. I have to believe Matt has run into many recruits asking for money. but he doesn't play their game.

the question I have is this. if a coach knows a certain player is asking for money , should he report that player? if a coach knows a certain coach or college is paying its athletes, should he report that coach? As I teacher, and Boy Scout leader, by law, I am required to report any signs of child abuse, and allow the police to handle it. if I don't, I could go to jail. if a coach sees cheating, or even suspects it, shouldn't he also be required to report it?
 
I have to believe Matt knew something was brewing and about to be made public. Matt went both at length and in great detail several months ago about the type of person and athlete he recruits. this is something he hasn't elaborated very much about in the past. and it was something very few other coaches will discuss or bring to the attention under public scrutiny.

I often post something that only a few people realize what I'm talking about. Looking back at his press conference when he said those words about the athlete he recruits, I believe Matt was basically saying I run a clean program where many other college coaches don't. I have to believe Matt has run into many recruits asking for money. but he doesn't play their game.

the question I have is this. if a coach knows a certain player is asking for money , should he report that player? if a coach knows a certain coach or college is paying its athletes, should he report that coach? As I teacher, and Boy Scout leader, by law, I am required to report any signs of child abuse, and allow the police to handle it. if I don't, I could go to jail. if a coach sees cheating, or even suspects it, shouldn't he also be required to report it?
I took his comments at the time to only reflect his desire to recruit people that wanted to pay a price, to put in the effort to get better and become part of a team...not in it solely for themselves...
 
I have to believe Matt knew something was brewing and about to be made public. Matt went both at length and in great detail several months ago about the type of person and athlete he recruits. this is something he hasn't elaborated very much about in the past. and it was something very few other coaches will discuss or bring to the attention under public scrutiny.

I often post something that only a few people realize what I'm talking about. Looking back at his press conference when he said those words about the athlete he recruits, I believe Matt was basically saying I run a clean program where many other college coaches don't. I have to believe Matt has run into many recruits asking for money. but he doesn't play their game.

the question I have is this. if a coach knows a certain player is asking for money , should he report that player? if a coach knows a certain coach or college is paying its athletes, should he report that coach? As I teacher, and Boy Scout leader, by law, I am required to report any signs of child abuse, and allow the police to handle it. if I don't, I could go to jail. if a coach sees cheating, or even suspects it, shouldn't he also be required to report it?

There is no way Matt knew a federal investigation was going on. Nobody in the NCAA did. Matt kept to his same strategy because that is who he is.

You do bring up in an interesting point about reporting an athlete requesting money. The problem is, what is to stop coaches of showing scorn and trying to get back at a kid that picked another school? The conversation would have to be recorded and that is opening up a bag of worms best left alone. The NCAA won't do anything without evidence. They are already going to have to do far more than they want to on this. I do, however, like the idea of coaches outing corrupt AAU coaches and kids demanding money. They don't belong involved in the college game
 
I took his comments at the time to only reflect his desire to recruit people that wanted to pay a price, to put in the effort to get better and become part of a team...not in it solely for themselves...


at the time, I also accepted that. however, at that time there was also a lot of discussion about Bowen and several others, and why he was not recruiting certain elite Indiana athletes.

As I look at recent events, and then reflect back at his press conference, I believe matt had some hidden motives for making his thoughts on recruiting public. I noticed after his release, no other coach came out and said, well this is the way we do things here.

I also noticed how quick the Ok st coach threw his assistant under the bus and fired him. I have to believe the head coach knew what was going on and is just as guilty, but looked the other way. Much like Paterno. .
 
Last year's coach is this year's head coach at Illinois
also noticed how quick the Ok st coach threw his assistant under the bus and fired him. I have to believe the head coach knew what was going on and is just as guilty, but looked the other way. Much like Paterno. .
 
There is no way Matt knew a federal investigation was going on. Nobody in the NCAA did. Matt kept to his same strategy because that is who he is.

You do bring up in an interesting point about reporting an athlete requesting money. The problem is, what is to stop coaches of showing scorn and trying to get back at a kid that picked another school? The conversation would have to be recorded and that is opening up a bag of worms best left alone. The NCAA won't do anything without evidence. They are already going to have to do far more than they want to on this. I do, however, like the idea of coaches outing corrupt AAU coaches and kids demanding money. They don't belong involved in the college game


I have ma y great ideas. however as you indicated, the ability to implement those ideas under our current law is often very difficult.

as you say, it's hard for a coach to come out and accuse a player of declining his offer because another coach offered him money. A college coach can't just go around with a secret mic in his pocket every time he goes somewhere. and there have been many coaches who do actually report other schools. but not very often. Mississippi or Miss St (whichever) didn't report itself about its star football player.
 
There is no way Matt knew a federal investigation was going on. Nobody in the NCAA did. Matt kept to his same strategy because that is who he is.

I have a friend who is an FBI agent. He didn't even know about the investigation until it broke the other day.
 
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I'm just speculating. Coaches can't talk about specific recruits. But it sure seemed at the time, matt wanted to get something off his chest without going into a whole lot of specifics. I have to believe there was a hidden motive for his words.

Doubtful his words were related to any FBI investigation. But he seemed to hint that some coaches go after certain players he wouldn't touch. As a coach, you can't berate other coaches, or agents, or AAU or high school coaches, or players. But while not calling out other programs, he sure seemed to be defending his own.

maybe I interpreted his message differently than others did. But after this week's events, his message delivered several months ago seemed to be spot on. Almost prophetic.
 
I wonder if the article Matt wrote laying out his Approach to recruiting was foreshadowing what we are seeing now. He mentioned that some players he thought he really wanted would fall off Purdues radar because of something he would learn about them.

What article is this? Can you provide a link? Sounds really interesting
 
I'm just speculating. Coaches can't talk about specific recruits. But it sure seemed at the time, matt wanted to get something off his chest without going into a whole lot of specifics. I have to believe there was a hidden motive for his words.

Doubtful his words were related to any FBI investigation. But he seemed to hint that some coaches go after certain players he wouldn't touch. As a coach, you can't berate other coaches, or agents, or AAU or high school coaches, or players. But while not calling out other programs, he sure seemed to be defending his own.

maybe I interpreted his message differently than others did. But after this week's events, his message delivered several months ago seemed to be spot on. Almost prophetic.

he may have been referring a bit about pay for play recruiting

but I think it was more of the basic me-first rather than team-first culture, like we saw with several of the more recent transfers
 
he may have been referring a bit about pay for play recruiting

but I think it was more of the basic me-first rather than team-first culture, like we saw with several of the more recent transfers
Agree. I don't think Matt intended to say or knew that this event we are witnessing was coming but I do think he has seen the worst of the me first types and therefore new it was possible.
 
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