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Purdue fails up front ... again

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Purdue loses its 6-foot-8 All-American double-double machine, so in comes a 6-8 forward who, according to Purdue’s media guide, is “widely considered one of the top-five junior college players in America.”

But, while Purdue is opening against several opponents clearly destined to be 20- to 60-point victims, the proven athletic juco, instead of finding his way with the regulars, gets stuck at the end of the bench alongside Tommy Luce and can only watch as a slow, undersized, unathletic legacy is given the major minutes at backup forward.

Meanwhile the returning swingman, a pro hopeful, is forced to play out of position as a senior, just as he was as a freshman, taking his slender frame inside, negating his strengths and further undermining his career-long foul-prone play.

And the 6-10 perennial medical redshirt finally sheds his boots and returns to active duty, only to find himself playing back into shape as the third member of a two-man rotation at center -- two 7-footers used only one a time, taking turns becoming a lonely island in swarming seas.

And the 6-9 freshman is given jersey No. 1, but it’s merely a redshirt.

So, we maybe shouldn’t wonder why a defending Big Ten champion with four returning starters barely makes the preseason Top Twenty. The national pundits know what many of us just can’t or won’t see. Not only do they remember a team unable to stay within 30 points of Kansas in the NCAA, but they recall a program that always force-feeds three-guard lineups generally lacking in size and/or speed and sometimes boasting a few regulars destined for the Sunday Church Chuckers B League.

Place Taylor, Ewing and Wheeler with two decent guards from the Co-Rec, have them wear orange at Atlantis, and Painter’s preferred backups would have their hands full.
 
It crossed my mind that Taylor might have been able to help on the boards. Haas is a large body but doesn't rebound or defend well for his size. Maybe Taylor's athleticism could have helped??????
 
Well we’ll never know because painter is hell bent on in game adjustemts
He’s in love with only having 1 big in a time; there are times to adjust and cause match up problems for the other team. Taylor is capable of playing the 5 with haarms at the 4, VE at the 3 for 3-4 mins at a time. We did nothing to challenge them, we let them pound the ball inside over and over and over. Think about that, painter should be emabarrased.
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I would have held off of posting while still emotional.

Usually that would be true, but this has been a burning issue for months and well beyond -- since Purdue blew winning the school color in the World Games -- if not routinely in the past dozen-plus years.

Painter prefers playing slow-footed guards and should-be managers while teams with real athletes blow by us.

We've got potential board bangers and long defenders on the bench right now, but, despite having started workouts and games in August, he refuses to give them major minutes to develop against the weaker opponents and he doesn't play them at all against stronger foes.

And everyone now can see the results.
 
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Purdue loses its 6-foot-8 All-American double-double machine, so in comes a 6-8 forward who, according to Purdue’s media guide, is “widely considered one of the top-five junior college players in America.”

But, while Purdue is opening against several opponents clearly destined to be 20- to 60-point victims, the proven athletic juco, instead of finding his way with the regulars, gets stuck at the end of the bench alongside Tommy Luce and can only watch as a slow, undersized, unathletic legacy is given the major minutes at backup forward.

Meanwhile the returning swingman, a pro hopeful, is forced to play out of position as a senior, just as he was as a freshman, taking his slender frame inside, negating his strengths and further undermining his career-long foul-prone play.

And the 6-10 perennial medical redshirt finally sheds his boots and returns to active duty, only to find himself playing back into shape as the third member of a two-man rotation at center -- two 7-footers used only one a time, taking turns becoming a lonely island in swarming seas.

And the 6-9 freshman is given jersey No. 1, but it’s merely a redshirt.

So, we maybe shouldn’t wonder why a defending Big Ten champion with four returning starters barely makes the preseason Top Twenty. The national pundits know what many of us just can’t or won’t see. Not only do they remember a team unable to stay within 30 points of Kansas in the NCAA, but they recall a program that always force-feeds three-guard lineups generally lacking in size and/or speed and sometimes boasting a few regulars destined for the Sunday Church Chuckers B League.

Place Taylor, Ewing and Wheeler with two decent guards from the Co-Rec, have them wear orange at Atlantis, and Painter’s preferred backups would have their hands full.

Preach. This is so true. Agree 100%.
 
we lost the rebounding battle by 3. it was the pathetic shooting that again caused us to lose. edwards,edwards and mathias combined for 9-31. that is what is losing games. wku shot 51 percent , we were 8-27 from 3. that is why we are losing. quit harping on the rebounding
 
If Taylor is fit to play, he needs to. So does Ewing. Maybe even Wheeler. Give at least two of them a few minutes each half, and we'd have seen better length and better movement on defense, probably a few more boards and maybe even a couple put-backs on offense.

This team looked one-dimensional against the scheduled scrubs, so when the shooting cools as it does for every team in basketball history, we can't continue being a one-trick pony while opponents benefit from slower and shorter defenders.
 
We didn't play defense in the first half, we didn't rebound all game, and although we missed some good shots we normally hit, we missed almost all of our bad shots, of which there were at least 10-12. And one of those was huge, should have been an easy layup at a key time, instead it went clanging off the rim. Several unforced turnovers, as well. I thought Isaac and Harms played to their potential, I didn't think anybody else did.
 
We didn't play defense in the first half, we didn't rebound all game, and although we missed some good shots we normally hit, we missed almost all of our bad shots, of which there were at least 10-12. And one of those was huge, should have been an easy layup at a key time, instead it went clanging off the rim. Several unforced turnovers, as well. I thought Isaac and Harms played to their potential, I didn't think anybody else did.

Trouble is, playing Haas and Haarms one at a time while being undersized and/or slow at the other four spots gives us no advantage. Purdue's "great size" appears only in airports and warmups.
 
Trouble is, playing Haas and Haarms one at a time while being undersized and/or slow at the other four spots gives us no advantage. Purdue's "great size" appears only in airports and warmups.
Agreed. Painter seems to be a “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” type guy... well it’s broke. Play both of them. Play JT, play Wheeler, Ewing, mix it up. This seven man rotation is going nowhere.
 
we lost the rebounding battle by 3. it was the pathetic shooting that again caused us to lose. edwards,edwards and mathias combined for 9-31. that is what is losing games. wku shot 51 percent , we were 8-27 from 3. that is why we are losing. quit harping on the rebounding
They were 20-point favorites against a team with only 7 scholarship players...and managed to not just lose the rebound battle (again), but, the game as well...and, giving up offensive rebounds absolutely contributed to that.
 
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