Projecting the senior superlatives

[boilerzz]

Purdue basketball's current senior class deserves a lot of credit for coming in to the program and helping to elevate it back to national prominence. All contributed as freshmen (some more than others) and have continued to impact the program both on and off the court.

I took their career numbers and projected likely senior season numbers and below is where each will end up on many of the Purdue career lists:

Vince Edwards

• If Purdue plays 36 games, he will have played the 5th most games played in Purdue history.
• If he starts those 36, he will be #2 in all time starts (behind E'Twaun Moore's 136).
• Career scoring list - 15th
• Career rebounding list - 13th
• Career assist list - 10th
• 3 pointers made - 10th
• 3 point percentage - 6th
• Free throw percentage - 10th
• Assist to turnover ratio - 11th
• Minutes played - 2nd

Isaac Haas

• If Purdue plays 36 games, he will tie for first with 140 career games played
• Career scoring list - 21st
• Career rebounding list - 22nd
• Career blocks list - 9th
• Career field goal percentage - 4th
• Career free throws made - 8th

Dakota Mathias

• If Purdue plays 36 games, he will tie for first with 140 career games played
• Career scoring list - 40th
• Career assist list - 11th
• 3 pointers made - 4th
• 3 point percentage - 5th
• Assist to turnover ratio - 3rd
• Minutes played - 12th

PJ Thompson

• If Purdue plays 36 games, he will be 7th in career games played
• Career assist list - 15th
• Career steals list - 15th
• Assist to turnover ratio - 1st (by a mile)
• 3 pointers made - 12th
• 3 point percentage - 13th

A few other notes:

• Vince projects to be the only player in Purdue history with 1500 points, 700 rebounds and 400 assists
• Dakota projects to join Vince and E'Twaun as the only players in Purdue history with 1000 points, 400 rebounds and 400 assists
• When Dakota reaches 1000, this will become the fourth incoming class in Purdue history with three 1000 point scorers. The others were:
  • 1975 - Walter Jordan, Eugene Parker, Wayne Walls
  • 1985 - Troy Lewis, Todd Mitchell, Everette Stephens
  • 2008 - E'Twaun Moore, JaJuan Johnson, Robbie Hummel
• They will be the only incoming class with three players with 300 or more assists

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[njm8845]

Good work!

When projecting their senior season stats, did you just use stats from their junior year? Or did you use a 3-year average?

 

[boilerzz]

Good work!

When projecting their senior season stats, did you just use stats from their junior year? Or did you use a 3-year average?

I took their trend over the last couple of years and made assumptions, giving a slight bump for most over their junior stats.

 

[hamcoboiler]

Really impressive to see.

I am not sure Edwards is as appreciated as he should be. One of the historically great Boilermakers.

Can't say enough good things about this class. In this day and age, so rare to have a four person class contribute from day 1, everyone stay all four years and achieve a great deal of success.

 

[tjreese]

I took their trend over the last couple of years and made assumptions, giving a slight bump for most over their junior stats.

However accurate those asumptions are, this class has been a great class for Purdue.

 

[Do Dah Day]

As an ancient fan (attended the first game at Mackey) some things stand out to me. Maybe they aren't special to others, or even the most impressive about these four, but I've been involved with a lot of teams and players. So taking into consideration what "we" thought of them three years ago:
1. Vince #2 in starts
2. Isaac #4 in FG% (wow)
3. Dakota #4 in 3-pointerss made (Who would have predicted this???)
4. Dakota #12 in minutes played!
5. PJ #1 in asst/to ratio (YAY and WOW and THANK YOU!)
6. PJ. #12 in 3-pointers made (who ever would have guessed?)
7. THIS: Dakota projects to join Vince and E'Twaun as the only players in Purdue history with 1000 points, 400 rebounds and 400 assists

I can't help but wonder if Nojel will be the first 1,600 points, 500 rebounds, and 500 assists????

 

[BBG]

Okay I really need to stop reading this forum on my phone. At first glance I thought the title read "Projecting the senior superlaxatives"..... Which would of had a whole different meaning for this thread.

Sorry to derail..... Carry on.

 

[punaj]

Okay I really need to stop reading this forum on my phone. At first glance I thought the title read "Projecting the senior superlaxatives"..... Which would of had a whole different meaning for this thread.

Sorry to derail..... Carry on.

The majority of threads lately have turned into superlaxatives, so it wouldn't be surprising. Good stuff in this one though. Gotta give props to this senior class. They have been a pleasure to watch.

 

[mathboy]

PJ's assist to turn over ratio at #1 is really remarkable. So is his position in the other areas of the stats. He has worked his butt off getting to this level of excellence. Many thought he would not be where he is when he first was recruited. It also says volumes about the coaching available at Purdue. From that, I would conclude that the new guards like Eastern, Hunter and (maybe?) Campbell are going to leave Purdue with incredible skill sets.

 

[tjreese]

PJ's assist to turn over ratio at #1 is really remarkable. So is his position in the other areas of the stats. He has worked his butt off getting to this level of excellence. Many thought he would not be where he is when he first was recruited. It also says volumes about the coaching available at Purdue. From that, I would conclude that the new guards like Eastern, Hunter and (maybe?) Campbell are going to leave Purdue with incredible skill sets.

I'm good friends with the uncle of a teammate in AAU with PJ and I remember when he said PJ was a good shooter, but probably wouldn't hit the court much after being offered. Now this guy played (with the Kitchel cousins )and knows some basketball, but what PJ has done with what he has was incredible. PJ will be a winner in whatever he chooses...

 

[Dakota Girl]

Okay I really need to stop reading this forum on my phone. At first glance I thought the title read "Projecting the senior superlaxatives"..... Which would of had a whole different meaning for this thread.

Sorry to derail..... Carry on.

Sounds like a senior problem, or two their BBG.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

I'm good friends with the uncle of a teammate in AAU with PJ and I remember when he said PJ was a good shooter, but probably wouldn't hit the court much after being offered. Now this guy played (with the Kitchel cousins )and knows some basketball, but what PJ has done with what he has was incredible. PJ will be a winner in whatever he chooses...

Still one of my favorite Lasalle Thompson, IV ("PJ") moments, below. Hard to imagine these players are seniors this year.....going to miss them for a number of reasons......really exemplify what being a Boilermaker is all about, and I hope they can go out with a special season.....

 

[BoilerBiker]

more mathias love.....

"6 hidden gems who don't stuff the stat sheet:

Dakota Mathias, Purdue

Mathias is the kind of player every contender needs: someone who can impact the game without dominating the ball. Mathias does “the little things” so well that they’re not little things at all. They’re quite noticeable.

He's an ace 3-and-D guy; Mathias canned 45.3 percent of his 3s last season and routinely hounded the opponent’s best scorer. His traditional numbers were modest – Mathias averaged 9.7 points and 3.9 rebounds. He was fifth on the Boilermakers in scoring.

But he only used 14.5 percent of his team’s possessions. For reference, Carsen Edwards, who averaged 0.6 points more than Mathias, used 26.8 percent of Purdue’s possessions. He’s a hyper-efficient offensive player who also assisted on 20.4 percent of his team’s baskets when he was on the floor, second to only Vince Edwards.

On defense, Mathias is a menace. He’s technically sound and tougher to move off of a spot than you think. Mathias ranked second on Purdue with 1.8 defensive win shares last season.

He’s never going to average 20 points or grab a ton of rebounds. But Mathias is extremely valuable. It may not show up in the traditional numbers, but his impact is impossible to ignore via the eye test and advanced metrics."

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...tball-6-hidden-gems-who-dont-stuff-stat-sheet

 

[tjreese]

more mathias love.....

"6 hidden gems who don't stuff the stat sheet:

Mathias is the kind of player every contender needs: someone who can impact the game without dominating the ball. Mathias does “the little things” so well that they’re not little things at all. They’re quite noticeable.

He's an ace 3-and-D guy; Mathias canned 45.3 percent of his 3s last season and routinely hounded the opponent’s best scorer. His traditional numbers were modest – Mathias averaged 9.7 points and 3.9 rebounds. He was fifth on the Boilermakers in scoring.

But he only used 14.5 percent of his team’s possessions. For reference, Carsen Edwards, who averaged 0.6 points more than Mathias, used 26.8 percent of Purdue’s possessions. He’s a hyper-efficient offensive player who also assisted on 20.4 percent of his team’s baskets when he was on the floor, second to only Vince Edwards.

On defense, Mathias is a menace. He’s technically sound and tougher to move off of a spot than you think. Mathias ranked second on Purdue with 1.8 defensive win shares last season.

He’s never going to average 20 points or grab a ton of rebounds. But Mathias is extremely valuable. It may not show up in the traditional numbers, but his impact is impossible to ignore via the eye test and advanced metrics."

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...tball-6-hidden-gems-who-dont-stuff-stat-sheet

more mathias love.....

"6 hidden gems who don't stuff the stat sheet:

Mathias is the kind of player every contender needs: someone who can impact the game without dominating the ball. Mathias does “the little things” so well that they’re not little things at all. They’re quite noticeable.

He's an ace 3-and-D guy; Mathias canned 45.3 percent of his 3s last season and routinely hounded the opponent’s best scorer. His traditional numbers were modest – Mathias averaged 9.7 points and 3.9 rebounds. He was fifth on the Boilermakers in scoring.

But he only used 14.5 percent of his team’s possessions. For reference, Carsen Edwards, who averaged 0.6 points more than Mathias, used 26.8 percent of Purdue’s possessions. He’s a hyper-efficient offensive player who also assisted on 20.4 percent of his team’s baskets when he was on the floor, second to only Vince Edwards.

On defense, Mathias is a menace. He’s technically sound and tougher to move off of a spot than you think. Mathias ranked second on Purdue with 1.8 defensive win shares last season.

He’s never going to average 20 points or grab a ton of rebounds. But Mathias is extremely valuable. It may not show up in the traditional numbers, but his impact is impossible to ignore via the eye test and advanced metrics."

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...tball-6-hidden-gems-who-dont-stuff-stat-sheet

 

[tjreese]

Didn't know his numbers but know how valuable Dakota is. He is a basketball player...a whole basketball player that maximizes his physical limitations with skill, desire and a cerebral understanding of what is going on in a game

 

[Do Dah Day]

Sounds like a senior problem, or two their BBG.

There's more than one thing that if yiu have more than 4 hours, you should go to the ER...

 

[Do Dah Day]

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