Can not be assigned to guard the best player on the opposing team. Not sure what CMP was thinking. Mason abused him all game. Way to many minutes for PJ also. After DM just shut down Jock I'm not sure why we wouldn't put him or Carsen on him.
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Said at least 20 times during the game that it made absolutely no sense to try to defend Mason with PJ, and even less so when he was abused repeatedly for the course of the game...that is on Painter though, and not PJ...inexcusable to not have made an adjustment.
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All of our guards but Carsen lack the level of athleticism to compete against elite athletes, which is why we lose to teams like Louisville, Minnesota, Arkansas Little Rock. We need more guards like Octeus and LewJack. Having a bunch of highly skilled but unathletic guards is not a winning formula.
Which is why Carsen should have been on him...no way that you don't make an adjustment at some point, yet Painter never did...as inexplicable as it is inexcusable.
Unless something was wrong with Carsen. But since you aren't bright enough to think of that, how would you know? Friggin moron.
Actually who,else does PJ guard? They had a 6.8 guard that Carsen guarded. This should have been a game where Vince started to mange the matchups better.
I thought we should have substituted a lot more to try and get a better match-up, especially in overtime. Smotherman's minutes have seemed to drop off too much in my opinion. We just seemed back on our heels all day and never seemed to have the confidence and fire we needed. Not one our best games from a player or coaching standpoint. Caleb did pretty well at least. Hopefully, we bounce back and learn from this one.
That is the problem with having an undersized and overmatched guy as your starting PG...I get your point certainly, but, if he could not guard Mason (and he most definitely could not), then justifying keeping him on him while he was torched repeatedly because he could not guard anyone else either seems like pretty poor justification.
PJ should be sitting next to Haas in a game like this. I like Carsen & DM at the guard spot today. PJ is a nice role player, but should not be playing 35 minutes in any game.
Neither of them would've hit three triples early in the second half either and people would've complained about how they are offensive liabilities and we were playing 4 on 5.
Actually, Mason has abused almost every opponent that has tried to guard him this year. Let's get realistic here. Minny had the same won-loss record as we did.
I disagree. Octeus and Lewjack, while really good defenders, were offensive liabilities in the half court.
Octeus averaged almost 12 ppg in conference play two years ago. His improvement from non-conference to B1G play is probably the main reason Purdue went from an 8-5 team with no hopes of the NCAAs to a Top 4 finisher in the league. He wasn't a great jump-shooter, but he could break down the defense and finish in traffic better than any other guard Painter's had.
You mean there are good players out there that are trying to beat us and not everything is just a coaching adjustment?!?
See. This is the opposing view I was talking about. Neither side is completely wrong either but it isn't often that you can run 5 perfect players out in your starting lineup with no liabilities. The key is learning how to play to your strengths and away from the weaknesses.
Sounds great, and is what should happen generally...yet, tonight, when Thompson could not stop Mason at all for the course of the game (and there really should not have been any notion that he could/would), that would be a great example of an opportunity to play away from a known weakness...and it never happened.
Just not sure there were better alternatives imo. Carsen had some time on him and he was burnt as well. Spike wasn't going to check him. Don't think Mathias has the foot speed to do it either. In my opinion sometimes you don't have the answer for a particular player on a given night. This was one of those times.
It was Nate Mason, not Russell Westbrook...and, given that Thompson could not stop him and had shown that repeatedly, I still would have tried Edwards more and would have tried Mathias as well...there was nothing to lose in trying something different, as it is not ok to simply just watch a guy score at will and just chalk it up to it being ok because he is better than the guy guarding him.
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I suppose you could've tried those things but like I said I have my doubts Mathias has the foot speed and I think Vince was needed to check the big bodies Minnesota had underneath, particularly to keep them off the glass.
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