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In 2000, Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN), then running for an open U.S. House seat, came out against a proposed settlement between government and the tobacco industry, calling it “big government.” In a shocking editorial, he wrote: “Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn’t kill.” Pence acknowledged that smoking is not “good for you,” but claimed that two-thirds of smokers do not die from smoking related illness and “9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer.”

In a debate that September, his Democratic opponent pressed him on the suggestion that smoking does not cause cancer and noted his contributions from tobacco companies. According to the Indianapolis Star’s coverage of the exchange, “Pence clarified that he wrote that there was no causal link medically identifying smoking as causing lung cancer.”

lol That's cray. Your republican VP nominee ladies and gentlemen who disagrees with his Presidential candidate on banning Muslims, TPP/Trade, and several other cornerstone positions.

Donald should have picked someone who isn't going to be roasted/mocked over these positions/statements. Christie would have been better for him. Bridgegate is pretty well known at this point. Pence isn't so much.
 
In 2000, Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN), then running for an open U.S. House seat, came out against a proposed settlement between government and the tobacco industry, calling it “big government.” In a shocking editorial, he wrote: “Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn’t kill.” Pence acknowledged that smoking is not “good for you,” but claimed that two-thirds of smokers do not die from smoking related illness and “9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer.”

In a debate that September, his Democratic opponent pressed him on the suggestion that smoking does not cause cancer and noted his contributions from tobacco companies. According to the Indianapolis Star’s coverage of the exchange, “Pence clarified that he wrote that there was no causal link medically identifying smoking as causing lung cancer.”

lol That's cray. Your republican VP nominee ladies and gentlemen who disagrees with his Presidential candidate on banning Muslims, TPP/Trade, and several other cornerstone positions.

Donald should have picked someone who isn't going to be roasted/mocked over these positions/statements. Christie would have been better for him. Bridgegate is pretty well known at this point. Pence isn't so much.

There's a lot of "damaged goods" that Pence has - there's a reason why he used to be considered a rising star and had faded. However, you yourself said nobody votes based on a VP.

Trump and Pence are rather different personalities. Whether Pence can adapt to Trump to consistently back everything with conviction will be interesting. Pence has already walked back to be a-ok with banning Muslims - which a few months ago he called unconstitutional, now it's necessary? He was one of the few people who actively campaigned for the job, so he seems to be ok with the situation - it's no secret. Just a matter of whether there's a wedge, particularly since Trump hasn't seemed to be enthusiastic about it. Today's formal introduction - Trump barely talked about him (and talked about himself mostly). Most people have no idea who Mike Pence is - he certainly isn't going to help you if nobody knows who he is. And Clinton's camp was faster putting things out about him than Trump was about his own VP pick.
 
There's a lot of "damaged goods" that Pence has - there's a reason why he used to be considered a rising star and had faded. However, you yourself said nobody votes based on a VP.

Trump and Pence are rather different personalities. Whether Pence can adapt to Trump to consistently back everything with conviction will be interesting. Pence has already walked back to be a-ok with banning Muslims - which a few months ago he called unconstitutional, now it's necessary? He was one of the few people who actively campaigned for the job, so he seems to be ok with the situation - it's no secret. Just a matter of whether there's a wedge, particularly since Trump hasn't seemed to be enthusiastic about it. Today's formal introduction - Trump barely talked about him (and talked about himself mostly). Most people have no idea who Mike Pence is - he certainly isn't going to help you if nobody knows who he is. And Clinton's camp was faster putting things out about him than Trump was about his own VP pick.
Has nothing to do with whether he will win or lose, it's just a symptom of other things as well as highly amusing to me.:)
 
There's a lot of "damaged goods" that Pence has - there's a reason why he used to be considered a rising star and had faded. However, you yourself said nobody votes based on a VP.

Trump and Pence are rather different personalities. Whether Pence can adapt to Trump to consistently back everything with conviction will be interesting. Pence has already walked back to be a-ok with banning Muslims - which a few months ago he called unconstitutional, now it's necessary? He was one of the few people who actively campaigned for the job, so he seems to be ok with the situation - it's no secret. Just a matter of whether there's a wedge, particularly since Trump hasn't seemed to be enthusiastic about it. Today's formal introduction - Trump barely talked about him (and talked about himself mostly). Most people have no idea who Mike Pence is - he certainly isn't going to help you if nobody knows who he is. And Clinton's camp was faster putting things out about him than Trump was about his own VP pick.
"Pence has already walked back to be a-ok with banning Muslims "

No he didn't. Read the transcript again - carefully.
 
I remember pence in his first state debates, he just never seemed enthusiast or genuine in thoughts and responses (totally subjective there on my part). Curious how he will be in front of the national media again, non-rfra.

Like trump, he sometimes changes his view in short time (rfra, just in news service), and sometimes appears non-conservative (just in news, common core/Indiana standards).

Maybe he will end up back in talk radio if their ticket loses.
 
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