Painter in tournament

[njm8845]

Seems like there's a faction who believe painter underachieves in the tourney. Well, here are his results:

2007 - lost to eventual NC Florida. It was their smallest winning margin of the tourney.

2008 - Purdue was 6 seed, lost to 3 seed Xavier, who made it to e8.

2009 - as a 5 seed, beat 4 seed Washington on basically their home floor. Lost to UConn in S16, who was ranked #1 for most of the year.

2010 - overcame Hummel injury to get to S16, where we lost to eventual NC Duke.

2011 - upset by vcu. They also beat 1 seeded Kansas on way to F4. Shaka's coming out party.

2012 - as a 10 seed, beat 7 seed St. Mary's. Lost to Kansas by 3, who became eventual runner up.

2015 - as 9 seed, lost to 8 seed cincy. Behemoth Kentucky waiting in 2nd round.

2016 - we all know what happened.

So in the tourney, Purdue has lost to the following seeds: 1, 3, 1, 1, 11, 2, 9, 12.

Only 2 of those times did Purdue lose to worse seeds. With all of the upsets that happen in today's game, I don't think that's egregious. Especially because one of them, vcu, turned out to be really good. I should also point out that Purdue upset better seeded teams on 2 occasions.

It's crazy to call for a coach's head after a 26 win season. The pragmatic question is "OK, who's the proven tourney winner that you're going to hire once you fire painter?" There aren't many out there. Those that are proven tourney winners are legends and firmly entrenched in their current position. Outside of about 10 names in the college game, painter is the best option. No need to roll the dice on another up-and-comer. Chances are much more likely that things can get worse... Remember, we were in the top 20 most of the season.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Seems like there's a faction who believe painter underachieves in the tourney. Well, here are his results:

2007 - lost to eventual NC Florida. It was their smallest winning margin of the tourney.

2008 - Purdue was 6 seed, lost to 3 seed Xavier, who made it to e8.

2009 - as a 5 seed, beat 4 seed Washington on basically their home floor. Lost to UConn in S16, who was ranked #1 for most of the year.

2010 - overcame Hummel injury to get to S16, where we lost to eventual NC Duke.

2011 - upset by vcu. They also beat 1 seeded Kansas on way to F4. Shaka's coming out party.

2012 - as a 10 seed, beat 7 seed St. Mary's. Lost to Kansas by 3, who became eventual runner up.

2015 - as 9 seed, lost to 8 seed cincy. Behemoth Kentucky waiting in 2nd round.

2016 - we all know what happened.

So in the tourney, Purdue has lost to the following seeds: 1, 3, 1, 1, 11, 2, 9, 12.

Only 2 of those times did Purdue lose to worse seeds. With all of the upsets that happen in today's game, I don't think that's egregious. Especially because one of them, vcu, turned out to be really good. I should also point out that Purdue upset better seeded teams on 2 occasions.

It's crazy to call for a coach's head after a 26 win season. The pragmatic question is "OK, who's the proven tourney winner that you're going to hire once you fire painter?" There aren't many out there. Those that are proven tourney winners are legends and firmly entrenched in their current position. Outside of about 10 names in the college game, painter is the best option. No need to roll the dice on another up-and-comer. Chances are much more likely that things can get worse... Remember, we were in the top 20 most of the season.

Great post. I agree. No one's happy about what happened a few weeks ago, but teams get upset every year. If this became a trend for us, I would be concerned. But I'm comfortable calling it an outlier until the data suggests otherwise.

 

[tjreese]

Seems like there's a faction who believe painter underachieves in the tourney. Well, here are his results:

2007 - lost to eventual NC Florida. It was their smallest winning margin of the tourney.

2008 - Purdue was 6 seed, lost to 3 seed Xavier, who made it to e8.

2009 - as a 5 seed, beat 4 seed Washington on basically their home floor. Lost to UConn in S16, who was ranked #1 for most of the year.

2010 - overcame Hummel injury to get to S16, where we lost to eventual NC Duke.

2011 - upset by vcu. They also beat 1 seeded Kansas on way to F4. Shaka's coming out party.

2012 - as a 10 seed, beat 7 seed St. Mary's. Lost to Kansas by 3, who became eventual runner up.

2015 - as 9 seed, lost to 8 seed cincy. Behemoth Kentucky waiting in 2nd round.

2016 - we all know what happened.

So in the tourney, Purdue has lost to the following seeds: 1, 3, 1, 1, 11, 2, 9, 12.

Only 2 of those times did Purdue lose to worse seeds. With all of the upsets that happen in today's game, I don't think that's egregious. Especially because one of them, vcu, turned out to be really good. I should also point out that Purdue upset better seeded teams on 2 occasions.

It's crazy to call for a coach's head after a 26 win season. The pragmatic question is "OK, who's the proven tourney winner that you're going to hire once you fire painter?" There aren't many out there. Those that are proven tourney winners are legends and firmly entrenched in their current position. Outside of about 10 names in the college game, painter is the best option. No need to roll the dice on another up-and-comer. Chances are much more likely that things can get worse... Remember, we were in the top 20 most of the season.

Thanks for putting in text what most of us remember...it does make it easier for some

 

[M51]

Seems like there's a faction who believe painter underachieves in the tourney. Well, here are his results:

2007 - lost to eventual NC Florida. It was their smallest winning margin of the tourney.

2008 - Purdue was 6 seed, lost to 3 seed Xavier, who made it to e8.

2009 - as a 5 seed, beat 4 seed Washington on basically their home floor. Lost to UConn in S16, who was ranked #1 for most of the year.

2010 - overcame Hummel injury to get to S16, where we lost to eventual NC Duke.

2011 - upset by vcu. They also beat 1 seeded Kansas on way to F4. Shaka's coming out party.

2012 - as a 10 seed, beat 7 seed St. Mary's. Lost to Kansas by 3, who became eventual runner up.

2015 - as 9 seed, lost to 8 seed cincy. Behemoth Kentucky waiting in 2nd round.

2016 - we all know what happened.

So in the tourney, Purdue has lost to the following seeds: 1, 3, 1, 1, 11, 2, 9, 12.

Only 2 of those times did Purdue lose to worse seeds. With all of the upsets that happen in today's game, I don't think that's egregious. Especially because one of them, vcu, turned out to be really good. I should also point out that Purdue upset better seeded teams on 2 occasions.

It's crazy to call for a coach's head after a 26 win season. The pragmatic question is "OK, who's the proven tourney winner that you're going to hire once you fire painter?" There aren't many out there. Those that are proven tourney winners are legends and firmly entrenched in their current position. Outside of about 10 names in the college game, painter is the best option. No need to roll the dice on another up-and-comer. Chances are much more likely that things can get worse... Remember, we were in the top 20 most of the season.

You can color the picture any way you choose. Bottom line, Painter has never exceeded expectations.

Glad you are happy losing to Cinn with behemoth Kentucky waiting in the second round. Losing with a seven point lead in the last minute.

Glad you are happy getting waxed by VCU. Glad you are content losing to Ark LR. Glad you are content with not being able to beat a 1, 2 or 3 seed.

Keep on being happy with being a constant loser in the tourney.

 

[BoilerFan#35]

Maybe if he could earn a better seed we wouldn't be playing good teams early. That is no excuse. UC, ARLR, and Kansas those were inexcusable. If you want to go deep in the tourney you're going to be playing good teams. Its very simple....

 

[BBG]

You can color the picture any way you choose. Bottom line, Painter has never exceeded expectations.

Glad you are happy losing to Cinn with behemoth Kentucky waiting in the second round. Losing with a seven point lead in the last minute.

Glad you are happy getting waxed by VCU. Glad you are content losing to Ark LR. Glad you are content with not being able to beat a 1, 2 or 3 seed.

Keep on being happy with being a constant loser in the tourney.

Methinks you completely missed the point of the thread. Don't think he said anyone was happy with that.

 

[SIBoiler2]

Here's the thing. If we had got on a roll and ran the table with our massive lineup the whole world of college BB would be screaming today that their coaches failed to recruit enough size. It's all about what have you done today. OU with the player of the year averaging over 25 per gets virtually shut out. Now there's a fanbase that has to be loosing their collective minds today and yet they had a great season and a great player to watch but somebody else had a better roll of the dice and that was all for them. I kind of think OU's loss is Painter's fault!!!

 

[M51]

Methinks you completely missed the point of the thread. Don't think he said anyone was happy with that.

Are we to be content because Purdue lost to a higher seed? Are we to be content because we got beat before having to face a higher seed? And then lose. Bottom line for the most part, Painter cannot exceed expectations.

 

[Do Dah Day]

You can color the picture any way you choose. Bottom line, Painter has never exceeded expectations.

Glad you are happy losing to Cinn with behemoth Kentucky waiting in the second round. Losing with a seven point lead in the last minute.

Glad you are happy getting waxed by VCU. Glad you are content losing to Ark LR. Glad you are content with not being able to beat a 1, 2 or 3 seed.

Keep on being happy with being a constant loser in the tourney.

Happy is that my wife doesn't have breast cancer, my youngest son just got a great job offer, all of my grandkids are doing well in school, and I am thriving at an age I never expected to even live to .... I may be disappointed about the tourney, but it is certainly FAR FROM causing me unhappiness.

 

[BBG]

Are we to be content because Purdue lost to a higher seed? Are we to be content because we got beat before having to face a higher seed? And then lose. Bottom line for the most part, Painter cannot exceed expectations.

Still missing the point, but whatever it's not worth arguing about.

 

[M51]

Happy is that my wife doesn't have breast cancer, my youngest son just got a great job offer, all of my grandkids are doing well in school, and I am thriving at an age I never expected to even live to .... I may be disappointed about the tourney, but it is certainly FAR FROM causing me unhappiness.

Believe me, I am happy. I really don't give a rats ass about how well Purdue or Painter does in the tournament. I too am fortunate to be in great health at my age. Hell, I'm training for my first half marathon. At 60+. It's appalling that most accept less than the best!

 

[Do Dah Day]

Are we to be content because Purdue lost to a higher seed? Are we to be content because we got beat before having to face a higher seed? And then lose. Bottom line for the most part, Painter cannot exceed expectations.

I don't disagree .... but I question what coaches have met or exceeded expectations for the past few years. We can discuss whether they missed expectations at a higher level perhaps (although not with Wright).

Note that Villanova did not exceed expectations the past 6 years Villanova has not gotten out of the first weekend and Kansas lost in the first round in '05 and '06 as well as losing in the 2nd round in '13 and '14.

So, Wright missed expectations badly for six straight years, then got there this year. Self missed expectations ten of the past 12 years (assuming not making the final four misses expectations), met expectations twice (assuming making the final four meets expectations) and exceeded expectations once (assuming the expectations were not to win the tournament).

 

[Do Dah Day]

Believe me, I am happy. I really don't give a rats ass about how well Purdue or Painter does in the tournament. I too am fortunate to be in great health at my age. Hell, I'm training for my first half marathon. At 60+. It's appalling that most accept less than the best!

You are a real jackass .... Making fun of health and children and relationships .,...

 

[*4purdue*]

Seems like there's a faction who believe painter underachieves in the tourney. Well, here are his results:

2007 - lost to eventual NC Florida. It was their smallest winning margin of the tourney.

2008 - Purdue was 6 seed, lost to 3 seed Xavier, who made it to e8.

2009 - as a 5 seed, beat 4 seed Washington on basically their home floor. Lost to UConn in S16, who was ranked #1 for most of the year.

2010 - overcame Hummel injury to get to S16, where we lost to eventual NC Duke.

2011 - upset by vcu. They also beat 1 seeded Kansas on way to F4. Shaka's coming out party.

2012 - as a 10 seed, beat 7 seed St. Mary's. Lost to Kansas by 3, who became eventual runner up.

2015 - as 9 seed, lost to 8 seed cincy. Behemoth Kentucky waiting in 2nd round.

2016 - we all know what happened.

So in the tourney, Purdue has lost to the following seeds: 1, 3, 1, 1, 11, 2, 9, 12.

Only 2 of those times did Purdue lose to worse seeds. With all of the upsets that happen in today's game, I don't think that's egregious. Especially because one of them, vcu, turned out to be really good. I should also point out that Purdue upset better seeded teams on 2 occasions.

It's crazy to call for a coach's head after a 26 win season. The pragmatic question is "OK, who's the proven tourney winner that you're going to hire once you fire painter?" There aren't many out there. Those that are proven tourney winners are legends and firmly entrenched in their current position. Outside of about 10 names in the college game, painter is the best option. No need to roll the dice on another up-and-comer. Chances are much more likely that things can get worse... Remember, we were in the top 20 most of the season.

How many more years until we see CMP's "coming out party"

 

[M51]

You are a real jackass .... Making fun of health and children and relationships .,...

Happy, happy, joy, joy! Good to see at your advanced age you can read between the lines? Other than the previous comment, nowhere was I making fun of anyone's health, children or relationships.

Comment about accepting less than the best is directed towards Painter. And yes, I am very fortunate to be able to have a goal to run a half marathon. At 60+. And to complete in less than 2 hrs.

Have a great day!

 

[BoilerBiker]

i definitely don't want to see painter go, but you can see the tale of two halves in his career right now (in totality, or post season)

i thought we were truly continuing to turn the corner this season - and we did with poll rankings and big ten tourney play. unfortunately we fell short in conf. reg. season and way short in ncaa tourney play.

i'm concerned that what i thought was a trend back up... seems like a big ? mark again next year.
i think i'm different than many here because on paper i'd take this year's team over next years team.
while we may be more 'balanced' next year, to me, that is quite the pressure/expectation on an incoming freshman guard (even if he is now 4 star status, we all know how other recent ones have turned out), not realizing the full loss of ajh's defensive and scoring contributions, and our roster being so very thin in numbers.
rather than an improved purdue team, we have to hope maybe more so that the rest of the league falls off a bit for their own teams.

2017(+) recruiting looms huge.

 

[njm8845]

Note that Villanova did not exceed expectations the past 6 years Villanova has not gotten out of the first weekend and Kansas lost in the first round in '05 and '06 as well as losing in the 2nd round in '13 and '14.

Self missed expectations ten of the past 12 years (assuming not making the final four misses expectations), met expectations twice (assuming making the final four meets expectations) and exceeded expectations once (assuming the expectations were not to win the tournament).

Really good post. I was going to say the same thing about self and wright. If add bo Ryan to that list. For most of their careers, they were known as underachievers. Coach K has some inexplicable tourney results. Look at UCLA or Indiana for the past decade. Seemingly more often than not, fans' expectations are not met, at every level. We'd laugh at MSU fans complaining this year as we think "you have no room to complain" but the reality is that most schools would think that about Purdue.

Look at OSU, who is trending down in a significant way. And Illinois is an example of how the potential to be worse is much higher than the potential to be better.

Try to name 10 coaches you'd want to replace painter. Are any available? If yes, then I'm betting they have no more deep runs than painter.

You can't base coaching decisions off a one game elimination tourney because the results are so fickle.

 

[Do Dah Day]

Really good post. I was going to say the same thing about self and wright. If add bo Ryan to that list. For most of their careers, they were known as underachievers. Coach K has some inexplicable tourney results. Look at UCLA or Indiana for the past decade. Seemingly more often than not, fans' expectations are not met, at every level. We'd laugh at MSU fans complaining this year as we think "you have no room to complain" but the reality is that most schools would think that about Purdue.

Look at OSU, who is trending down in a significant way. And Illinois is an example of how the potential to be worse is much higher than the potential to be better.

Try to name 10 coaches you'd want to replace painter. Are any available? If yes, then I'm betting they have no more deep runs than painter.

You can't base coaching decisions off a one game elimination tourney because the results are so fickle.

Thank you ... you and some good Angel's Envy and I am on my way back to regular breathing.

 

[tjreese]

Happy is that my wife doesn't have breast cancer, my youngest son just got a great job offer, all of my grandkids are doing well in school, and I am thriving at an age I never expected to even live to .... I may be disappointed about the tourney, but it is certainly FAR FROM causing me unhappiness.

I think sometimes it takes a slap in the face for people to put things in perspective. There are many more things important than basketball even though I really enjoy the game. Nothing wrong with not being satisfied, nothing wrong being satisfied, but there is something wrong when the game gets bigger than life...

 

[Do Dah Day]

I think sometimes it takes a slap in the face for people to put things in perspective. There are many more things important than basketball even though I really enjoy the game. Nothing wrong with not being satisfied, nothing wrong being satisfied, but there is something wrong when the game gets bigger than life...

When you depend on someone/something else to provide your happiness, you're in for a life of disappointment. As I know that you knew well.

EDIT: I don't mean that you depend on others ...I mean that you know that the saying is true.

 

[BoilerBiker]

I think sometimes it takes a slap in the face for people to put things in perspective. There are many more things important than basketball even though I really enjoy the game. Nothing wrong with not being satisfied, nothing wrong being satisfied, but there is something wrong when the game gets bigger than life...

society-wide it becomes closer and closer though.
as a representation of money, it's ranked incredibly high when considering coaches and programs in college football and basketball.

 

[tjreese]

When you depend on someone/something else to provide your happiness, you're in for a life of disappointment. As I know that you knew well.

EDIT: I don't mean that you depend on others ...I mean that you know that the saying is true.

absolutely, I just wrote a couple of weeks ago a young girl (not related) that if she went through life chasing other's happiness that chase would never end. All she needed to do was pass the mirror test every morning knowing that she has done behind closed doors as though the whole world were watching and happy with who she sees when she looks in the mirror...and if not happy...change it until she could be happy.

 

[tjreese]

society-wide it becomes closer and closer though.
as a representation of money, it's ranked incredibly high when considering coaches and programs in college football and basketball.

I know...and how much better would this country be if people were not distracted by the gladiators, reality TV and so many other puerile activities? Not going into politics here, just stating an obvious point that is too often missed by too many...

 

[Do Dah Day]

absolutely, I just wrote a couple of weeks ago a young girl (not related) that if she went through life chasing other's happiness that chase would never end. All she needed to do was pass the mirror test every morning knowing that she has done behind closed doors as though the whole world were watching and happy with who she sees when she looks in the mirror...and if not happy...change it until she could be happy.

I knew I liked you. I am a college instructor. I am a rebel. I spend more time on life coaching than academic coaching. Luckily, my department chair supports it and the course I teach lends itself to life ... Rock on ...

 

[Do Dah Day]

I know...and how much better would this country be if people were not distracted by the gladiators, reality TV and so many other puerile activities? Not going into politics here, just stating an obvious point that is too often missed by too many...

Narcissism and sociopathy are pandemic. How many times have you been passed when going ten over the speed limit and be flipped off, or cut off and then flipped off. It's ALL about them and they refuse to take responsibility for their actions. It's Painter's fault they're not happy.

If there's no drama, then life is boring or ...

 

[tjreese]

Narcissism and sociopathy are pandemic. How many times have you been passed when going ten over the speed limit and be flipped off, or cut off and then flipped off. It's ALL about them and they refuse to take responsibility for their actions. It's Painter's fault they're not happy.

If there's no drama, then life is boring or ...

2015 goes down as the year of being a victim, but the entitlement I believe has roots in pushing elementary education pedagogy into the higher grades...an off branch of the "child-centered" school into the high school along with the self-esteem movement a few decades ago.

Every day in every way a person can choose to be a victim or a victor...not that it is always easy, but the choice remains...

 

[Do Dah Day]

2015 goes down as the year of being a victim, but the entitlement I believe has roots in pushing elementary education pedagogy into the higher grades...an off branch of the "child-centered" school into the high school along with the self-esteem movement a few decades ago.

Every day in every way a person can choose to be a victim or a victor...not that it is always easy, but the choice remains...

KaBAM. I suspect we would get hoarse before we ran out of things to discuss.

 

[tjreese]

KaBAM. I suspect we would get hoarse before we ran out of things to discuss.

I suspect you are right...gotta log off for a while

 

[nagemj02]

The AD doesn't have to hire a proven winner to choose the next head coach. Painter wasn't a proven winner when he became the Purdue head coach, so why would someone else have to be? If I looked though all of the DI head coaches, assistant coaches, and even some coaches that have resigned or been fired over... say the last five seasons or so...I am 100% confident I could name 10 or more candidates that I would rather see as Purdue's head coach. There's probably some good DII, DIII, and even great HS coaches that have enough recruiting connections and coaching ability to be Purdue's head coach and do well. I think it's ridiculous to believe that Painter is one of the only people that could do well (but still not great) as a HC at Purdue.

 

[purdue4sure]

You can color the picture any way you choose. Bottom line, Painter has never exceeded expectations.

Glad you are happy losing to Cinn with behemoth Kentucky waiting in the second round. Losing with a seven point lead in the last minute.

Glad you are happy getting waxed by VCU. Glad you are content losing to Ark LR. Glad you are content with not being able to beat a 1, 2 or 3 seed.

Keep on being happy with being a constant loser in the tourney.

Keep on being on a suicide watch list about a college basketball team losing a game almost 3 weeks ago. Please understand that your abject depression will not help the team win.

See how hyperbole can work both ways?

 

[Dryfly88]

The AD doesn't have to hire a proven winner to choose the next head coach. Painter wasn't a proven winner when he became the Purdue head coach, so why would someone else have to be? If I looked though all of the DI head coaches, assistant coaches, and even some coaches that have resigned or been fired over... say the last five seasons or so...I am 100% confident I could name 10 or more candidates that I would rather see as Purdue's head coach. There's probably some good DII, DIII, and even great HS coaches that have enough recruiting connections and coaching ability to be Purdue's head coach and do well. I think it's ridiculous to believe that Painter is one of the only people that could do well (but still not great) as a HC at Purdue.

Go ahead and list them right here. Also tell why each one would be better than CMP. Since you are playing AD, don't forget to include their current salary/buyout an AD can't just hire anybody they want. Interesting to see who you come up with and why.

 

[BuilderBob6]

Are we to be content because Purdue lost to a higher seed? Are we to be content because we got beat before having to face a higher seed? And then lose. Bottom line for the most part, Painter cannot exceed expectations.

Who is content?

Just because some don't lose their freakin mind and call for the coach's head doesn't mean they are content. It just your way of trying to make your point have some validity. If we aren't calling for Painter's head we are happy losing in the first round. BS

 

[BuilderBob6]

The AD doesn't have to hire a proven winner to choose the next head coach. Painter wasn't a proven winner when he became the Purdue head coach, so why would someone else have to be? If I looked though all of the DI head coaches, assistant coaches, and even some coaches that have resigned or been fired over... say the last five seasons or so...I am 100% confident I could name 10 or more candidates that I would rather see as Purdue's head coach. There's probably some good DII, DIII, and even great HS coaches that have enough recruiting connections and coaching ability to be Purdue's head coach and do well. I think it's ridiculous to believe that Painter is one of the only people that could do well (but still not great) as a HC at Purdue.

Name me all the coaches in the last five years that have been fired that have a comparable winning percentage and length of service that Painter has. Please. I'll wait.

Just to clarify..........there is one coach, or more, who has been FIRED in the last five years that you would take before Painter? Really?

 

[purdue4sure]

Go ahead and list them right here. Also tell why each one would be better than CMP. Since you are playing AD, don't forget to include their current salary/buyout an AD can't just hire anybody they want. Interesting to see who you come up with and why.

I would love to see that list, and I think that it should be forwarded to the AD. I would especially be interested in the high school coaches that could recruit and coach a team to a top 5 finish in the B1G. The AD should be able to get those guys at a fantastic bargain.

 

[tjreese]

I would love to see that list, and I think that it should be forwarded to the AD. I would especially be interested in the high school coaches that could recruit and coach a team to a top 5 finish in the B1G. The AD should be able to get those guys at a fantastic bargain.

no high school coach would step in an be ready...not that basketball is more so much more complicated, but that players in college can do many things high school players cannot and so the physicality difference would be huge. That said, Norm Sloan, John Wooden, Gene and Bo...all older people started in high school as many others not mentioned. None of this is to agree that it would be easy to get a better person for Purdue

 

[purdue4sure]

no high school coach would step in an be ready...

Ah, but Nagemj02 disagrees. I'd love to see who he is referring to.

 

[*4purdue*]

Name me all the coaches in the last five years that have been fired that have a comparable winning percentage and length of service that Painter has. Please. I'll wait.

Just to clarify..........there is one coach, or more, who has been FIRED in the last five years that you would take before Painter? Really?

I'd take Tubby Smith over Painter in a heartbeat.

 

[BBG]

I'd take Tubby Smith over Painter in a heartbeat.

So you would take a coach that went 19 and 13 and lost to Butler?

This is what I don't get. Some on here clamor for a new coach, but yet pick coaches that did worse by recent tourney comparison.

This is why any more it just looks like Painter could go undefeated and some one would still complain.

Not trying to nitpick because I know you aren't a CMP fan and this isn't directed solely at you, but as someone that is indifferent, it just is a head scratcher to me. I mean i guess I can somewhat understand, he had success in the past, but there is no guarantee he would "get the fire back" at Purdue. But, just my 2 cents.

 

[*4purdue*]

So you would take a coach that went 19 and 13 and lost to Butler?

This is what I don't get. Some on here clamor for a new coach, but yet pick coaches that did worse by recent tourney comparison.

This is why any more it just looks like Painter could go undefeated and some one would still complain.

Not trying to nitpick because I know you aren't a CMP fan and this isn't directed solely at you, but as someone that is indifferent, it just is a head scratcher to me. I mean i guess I can somewhat understand, he had success in the past, but there is no guarantee he would "get the fire back" at Purdue. But, just my 2 cents.

That was actually an easy one for me. I've always thought Tubby was one of the top coaches in the game and wish Purdue would have hired him when younger. Yes, I'd take Tubby. I don't condemn CMP for 1 bad year, or an early loss in the tournament. I look at his entire career. If he would have done something in the previous 10, then I'd probably cut him some slack, but he hasn't. A S16 isn't where I want the bar set for Purdue. Let's face it, with the unbalanced conference schedule, winning a B1G doesn't mean as much... Not that he's had a lot of success at that either. I want to see Purdue in the FF. I want to win a NC. If Wisconsin can make the FF back to back and an E8 in a down year, Purdue should look at that and see it as doable. I think most on this board, that are CMP supporters don't even think it's possible.... Pretty sad.

 

[BoilerFan#35]

So you would take a coach that went 19 and 13 and lost to Butler?

This is what I don't get. Some on here clamor for a new coach, but yet pick coaches that did worse by recent tourney comparison.

This is why any more it just looks like Painter could go undefeated and some one would still complain. I would much rather of lost to Butler than Little Rock in the tourney.

Not trying to nitpick because I know you aren't a CMP fan and this isn't directed solely at you, but as someone that is indifferent, it just is a head scratcher to me. I mean i guess I can somewhat understand, he had success in the past, but there is no guarantee he would "get the fire back" at Purdue. But, just my 2 cents.

BBG you realize Painter lost to Butler too??? Lmao. A loss to Butler in the tourney is a lot more respectable than one to Little Rock..