One more win each year. That is realistic progress.

[TheBoris]

IAW a linear regression: Win one more game each year than we did last year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_regression

If Brohm makes this year's recruiting class something north of Indiana or Illinois, great job.

If we win one more game each year for the next five years, we'll be in good shape.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Honestly linear isn't good enough. Think exponential.

 

[nat100]

Honestly linear isn't good enough. Think exponential.

It's going to be bad for a couple years.

 

[boiledmeconium]

It's going to be bad for a couple years.

Define "bad"

Like, Bad, bad

Or

Baaaaaaaaaaddddd

 

[nat100]

2 wins next year

 

[mustard_]

I think it could easily go 2 wins then 5 or 6 wins. Really depends on how the current recruiting class shapes up and how the current roster gets coached up. Next years schedule is a bear.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

2 wins next year

And maybe two the next. If Brohm is even capable of bringing in quality players, significantly better assistants, and he himself can deliver in a much tougher place than WKU, there may be a 6-6 bowl game in four or five years.

 

[boiledmeconium]

All the more reason to hire coaches that recruit better than they coach.

 

[FirstDownB]

Sleep, creep, leap

 

[SunnyFL24]

2 wins next year

....................4 ...possible 5 wins............don't think he will pull a Joe Tiller in his first year but I think we will all be pleasantly surprised. We will accomplish more with less talent on "PAPER"! But I think we have a coach that will coach up the talent level!

 

[Dakota Girl]

It's going to be bad for a couple years.

Can it get any worse? Doh! I said it. Sorry.

 

[Purdue85]

....................4 ...possible 5 wins............don't think he will pull a Joe Tiller in his first year but I think we will all be pleasantly surprised. We will accomplish more with less talent on "PAPER"! But I think we have a coach that will coach up the talent level!

there are absolutely 4-5 games that could be wins on this schedule...
Ohio
Minnesota
Rutgers
Illinois
The Loosiers

No, they aren't guaranteed wins, but winnable games, nonetheless.

Throw in a win in another marginal game and it's an incredible season and they're off to the races.

I still think we (as fans) are in for a surprise. Considering what JB did with the offense at WKU with available talent . . . stand by.

 

[BBG]

Define "bad"

Like, Bad, bad

Or

Baaaaaaaaaaddddd

 

[SunnyFL24]

there are absolutely 4-5 games that could be wins on this schedule...
Ohio
Minnesota
Rutgers
Illinois
The Loosiers

No, they aren't guaranteed wins, but winnable games, nonetheless.

Throw in a win in another marginal game and it's an incredible season and they're off to the races.

I still think we (as fans) are in for a surprise. Considering what JB did with the offense at WKU with available talent . . . stand by.

Those are pretty much games I had marked.............it's 8 degrees outside............so I am looking more forward to the spring game........

 

[TwinDegrees2]

there are absolutely 4-5 games that could be wins on this schedule...
Ohio
Minnesota
Rutgers
Illinois
The Loosiers

No, they aren't guaranteed wins, but winnable games, nonetheless.

Throw in a win in another marginal game and it's an incredible season and they're off to the races.

I still think we (as fans) are in for a surprise. Considering what JB did with the offense at WKU with available talent . . . stand by.

I still believe it's going to take a lot better player to win in the Big than at WKU. He's got to have four star recruits and a lot of them along with the best of the 3's.

 

[nat100]

I still believe it's going to take a lot better player to win in the Big than at WKU. He's got to have four star recruits and a lot of them along with the best of the 3's.

He's also going to have to build to that. How about bowl eligible? Then we will worry about winning the big ten

 

[Purdue85]

I still believe it's going to take a lot better player to win in the Big than at WKU. He's got to have four star recruits and a lot of them along with the best of the 3's.

Balderdash!

Even in Tiller's prime he had 2 to 4 4-star players, and most didn't pan out.

He can win in the B1G without a roster full of 4-star players.

Do I want them? He11 yes! Who wouldn't?! But my bet is he's going to win without them, then start pulling them in as he does.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Balderdash!

Even in Tiller's prime he had 2 to 4 4-star players, and most didn't pan out.

He can win in the B1G without a roster full of 4-star players.

Do I want them? He11 yes! Who wouldn't?! But my bet is he's going to win without them, then start pulling them in as he does.

Tiller was unique with a very different offense at the time. Brohm's offense isn't unique.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Tiller was unique with a very different offense at the time. Brohm's offense isn't unique.

I'll take effective over unique. And it's clearly been effective the past three years. I'm not even sure what unique means anymore.

 

[ahhculdee]

Tiller was unique with a very different offense at the time. Brohm's offense isn't unique.

Please kindly shut up about things you don't know about lol.

 

[SunnyFL24]

Tiller was unique with a very different offense at the time. Brohm's offense isn't unique.

You seem to forget...................Tiller had some every good DEFENSIVE teams with mainly 3 star recruits! It's all about being able to coach these kids UP a notch! Running the right schemes and putting them in position to win games.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Define "bad"

Like, Bad, bad

Or

Baaaaaaaaaaddddd

Bad, bad:

Baaaaaaaaaaaaddddd:

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

I think the next couple of years could be harsh mainly due to the schedule. But I'm already seeing more in the first week to give me hope than I ever did with coach hat. I think we got the right guy and even if we don't win a lot the first couple of years, I expect the level of football we will watch will be much higher.

 

[FearTheTrain]

I still believe it's going to take a lot better player to win in the Big than at WKU. He's got to have four star recruits and a lot of them along with the best of the 3's.

Iowa disagrees. They are consistently in the top 20 and made the BIG title game despite not being loaded with four stars.

 

[Bippus33]

Tiller was unique with a very different offense at the time. Brohm's offense isn't unique.

Keep in mind that Colletto had good line play on both sides of the ball that gave Tiller a base to work from......Not the case now!!!

 

[nat100]

Keep in mind that Colletto had good line play on both sides of the ball that gave Tiller a base to work from......Not the case now!!!

He was an IU fan back then.

 

[Bippus33]

He was an IU fan back then.

?????

 

[banshee90]

Please kindly shut up about things you don't know about lol.

When did Twindegree become such a fracking troll? Like he has always been bad IU fan, but I think Jeff Brohms stole his girlfriend or something.

 

[banshee90]

?????

Twindegree is a jilted IU fan.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Iowa disagrees. They are consistently in the top 20 and made the BIG title game despite not being loaded with four stars.

Add Wisconsin to that list as well.

 

[mustard_]

there are absolutely 4-5 games that could be wins on this schedule...
Ohio
Minnesota
Rutgers
Illinois
The Loosiers

No, they aren't guaranteed wins, but winnable games, nonetheless.

Throw in a win in another marginal game and it's an incredible season and they're off to the races.

I still think we (as fans) are in for a surprise. Considering what JB did with the offense at WKU with available talent . . . stand by.

If those 5 games are coin flips then logically we should expect ~2.5 wins. There are winnable games for sure but still its a tall order with this roster.

 

[Purdue85]

Tiller was unique with a very different offense at the time. Brohm's offense isn't unique.

. . . and Tiller couldn't win in the B1G with his brand of football.

Oh, wait . . .

 

[Purdue85]

If those 5 games are coin flips then logically we should expect ~2.5 wins. There are winnable games for sure but still its a tall order with this roster.

I don't think they're necessarily coin flips, and I don't think this roster is as horrible as some portray. Some holes, yes. Lack of depth, yes. Able to compete/win against elite, no. Move the ball against many on our schedule, sure. Entertain the fans, sure.

 

[Purdue85]

Keep in mind that Colletto had good line play on both sides of the ball that gave Tiller a base to work from......Not the case now!!!

Colletto's recruiting classes were always at the bottom, and the talent was widely considered to be well below B1G standards!

 

[SunnyFL24]

I don't think they're necessarily coin flips, and I don't think this roster is as horrible as some portray. Some holes, yes. Lack of depth, yes. Able to compete/win against elite, no. Move the ball against many on our schedule, sure. Entertain the fans, sure.

TOUCHE!!!

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Colletto's recruiting classes were always at the bottom, and the talent was widely considered to be well below B1G standards!

True, but he did leave Tiller 2 NFL pass rushers and 2 NFL tackles.

 

[Bippus33]

Colletto's recruiting classes were always at the bottom, and the talent was widely considered to be well below B1G standards!

You had to be there dude... Facts are facts....

 

[Purdue85]

You had to be there dude... Facts are facts....

I was.

Dude.

And, yes, facts are facts, and they're pesky things, those facts!

 

[Purdue85]

True, but he did leave Tiller 2 NFL pass rushers and 2 NFL tackles.

correct, and there are possible NFL'ers on this roster, as well.

 

[SunnyFL24]

correct, and there are possible NFL'ers on this roster, as well.

All I know is Brohm is taking over a 3-9 team.............Tiller took over a 3-8 team..........It can be turned around quickly! Brohm's I think will be a little tougher, but by year two.....we are at least a 6-6 team............with better years to come!