Offseason

[BeerbellyBoiler]

Being serious here, what major changes are expected during offseason? Coaching changes, players transferring, etc.. With a couple recruits opening up their recruitment and backing out makes me wonder if we lose any current players or coaches on staff. IMO I'd hate to lose Coach Freeman and a player like Markell Jones.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

Jones will stay. Freeman, people are high on him. Maybe a decent recruiter, but his LBs are not very strong as a unit.

 

[BeerbellyBoiler]

Any idea why Purdue don't try and land any top JUCO players for a quick fix.

 

[tigerchump]

Any idea why Purdue don't try and land any top JUCO players for a quick fix.

I think the only thing to fix this mess is a completely new staff.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

Any idea why Purdue don't try and land any top JUCO players for a quick fix.

They will try to add JUCOs. Sign of desperation. We graduate 2? Of our better OL from a bad unit

 

[ahhculdee]

All other coaches are going to try and swoop in and use that Hazell won't be here after next year as an advantage. It's very likely that and the losing records have caused all those that have decommited to decommit.

 

[uncleboiler]

Juco's are just a band-aid....we're way past a quick fix.

 

[BeerbellyBoiler]

Juco's are just a band-aid....we're way past a quick fix.

Wouldn't a JUCO player with experience be better than a recruit with 2*s, Recruiting has been a huge problem. The two biggest problems have been recruiting and coaching staff. Both were hurt and caused by Morgan Burke allowing Hazell to coach Kent St in the bowl game. It kept him from establishing a quality staff and hitting the recruiting trail.

 

[uncleboiler]

Wouldn't a JUCO player with experience be better than a recruit with 2*s, Recruiting has been a huge problem. The two biggest problems have been recruiting and coaching staff. Both were hurt and caused by Morgan Burke allowing Hazell to coach Kent St in the bowl game. It kept him from establishing a quality staff and hitting the recruiting trail.

Well, #1, Juco's are Juco's for a reason...most of them aren't very good and #2, the ones that do develop into decent players are scooped up by good programs....so that would leave Purdue recruiting crappy Juco's, much like thier normal recruits.

 

[nat100]

Well, #1, Juco's are Juco's for a reason...most of them aren't very good and #2, the ones that do develop into decent players are scooped up by good programs....so that would leave Purdue recruiting crappy Juco's, much like thier normal recruits.

#1 is wrong. Most are at Jucos because of grades, not talent.

 

[Fro]

Wouldn't a JUCO player with experience be better than a recruit with 2*s, Recruiting has been a huge problem.

A 2* high school player has more time to develop and is more likely to make it to campus and stay in the program, whereas a JUCO player has limited eligibility remaining and may have grade issues. Keep in mind players still have to make the adjustment from playing at the JUCO level to major college FB. They've typically not going to come in and star right away... they still have to learn your team's systems, etc.

If you recruit a JUCO and they either don't make it to campus or bomb out, or just end up being practice depth, it really puts you behind the eight ball in terms of recruiting and roster depth. That's what really hurt Cam Cameron at IU in his last couple seasons... he went after JUCOs hard and a lot of them didn't work out.

Basically JUCOs are good for filling holes, not building a whole team around.

 

[lbodel]

All other coaches are going to try and swoop in and use that Hazell won't be here after next year as an advantage. It's very likely that and the losing records have caused all those that have decommited to decommit.

Yes, all of those MAC coaches we compete against. Sigh.

 

[lbodel]

They will try to add JUCOs. Sign of desperation. We graduate 2? Of our better OL from a bad unit

Also, 2 of our veterans in the secondary.

 

[BeerbellyBoiler]

A 2* high school player has more time to develop and is more likely to make it to campus and stay in the program, whereas a JUCO player has limited eligibility remaining and may have grade issues. Keep in mind players still have to make the adjustment from playing at the JUCO level to major college FB. They've typically not going to come in and star right away... they still have to learn your team's systems, etc.

If you recruit a JUCO and they either don't make it to campus or bomb out, or just end up being practice depth, it really puts you behind the eight ball in terms of recruiting and roster depth. That's what really hurt Cam Cameron at IU in his last couple seasons... he went after JUCOs hard and a lot of them didn't work out.

Basically JUCOs are good for filling holes, not building a whole team around.

I'm not saying only recruit JUCO players but like you said they fill temporary holes and God knows Purdue has plenty of holes to fill. I understand the ship is sinking but you plug and patch until the remodel. Until a new offensive coordinator comes in with a new and exciting offense I believe recruiting will suffer. Defense is as bad but has more talent returning.

 

[oliverkelly]

I believe maybe going after some graduate transfers might be the ticket to fill holes. Top tier JUCO players will go to top tier schools. What Purdue will get are guys with limited options which could be because of talent/grades/disciplinary problems. Graduate transfers have been in programs for three/four years and may have been put in bad situations due to coaching changes, scheme changes, etc... Just maybe looking for opportunities to get on the field.