Interesting similarities
Aidan O’Connell
3,124 YDS - 22 TD - 11 INT - QBR 72.5
Jack Plummer
3,095 YDS - 21 TD - 9 INT - QBR 49.7
Aidan O’Connell
3,124 YDS - 22 TD - 11 INT - QBR 72.5
Jack Plummer
3,095 YDS - 21 TD - 9 INT - QBR 49.7
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And possibly against worse defenses.I’m sure the Cal games were in much better weather conditions.
And possibly against worse defenses.
Being ranked doesn’t mean you have a good defense.I don’t think so - here are ranked teams Cal faced. 4 of the losses were by 7 points -
• Notre Dame(19)
• Washington (9)
• Oregon State (15)
• Oregon (16)
• USC (4)
• UCLA (17)
Aidan missed 1 game against FAU.Interesting similarities
Aidan O’Connell
3,124 YDS - 22 TD - 11 INT - QBR 72.5
Jack Plummer
3,095 YDS - 21 TD - 9 INT - QBR 49.7
And how many -15 yard sacks did Plummer get?Interesting similarities
Aidan O’Connell
3,124 YDS - 22 TD - 11 INT - QBR 72.5
Jack Plummer
3,095 YDS - 21 TD - 9 INT - QBR 49.7
I was at the ND game and even the Domers were wondering why we didn’t start AOC.I dunno what this was supposed to stir up…but I’ll bite. AOC had superior everything when it came to Plummer and it was easy to see side by side. We had a hell of a WR crops last year and Plummer was flat out scared at times to pull the trigger. I think it definitely cost us the ND game and almost cost us the Illinois game last year before Aidan saved the day.
All of this said, I think Plummer was an ok college QB. We just had 1 better on the roster.
I watched some of their games and he still throws alot of short passes. This coming from someone who thought Jack was the guy because he looked the part. But AOC moved the chains and kept drives going and won me over. Jack's an OK qb but AOC is better.If you actually watched Plummer play this year, you would have seen nothing has changed. He still holds on to the ball too long and is a drive killer. Hence why his qb rating is dismal compared to AOC.
Not stirring - just sharing what a decent year both hadI dunno what this was supposed to stir up…but I’ll bite. AOC had superior everything when it came to Plummer and it was easy to see side by side. We had a hell of a WR crops last year and Plummer was flat out scared at times to pull the trigger. I think it definitely cost us the ND game and almost cost us the Illinois game last year before Aidan saved the day.
All of this said, I think Plummer was an ok college QB. We just had 1 better on the roster.
Meh. The stats lie here. Cal is 4-8 and won’t sniff a bowl. Not a great year for Plummer IMO. That said, I’m glad he got to play somewhere. I have absolutely 0 against the kid. Just don’t think he had the gunslinger mentality to make it work here.Not stirring - just sharing what a decent year both had
I’ll never forget being in RA when he came in and won the Nebraska game. My Husker fan buds were like, “Who the #%*$ is this guy!!??”Meh. The stats lie here. Cal is 4-8 and won’t sniff a bowl. Not a great year for Plummer IMO. That said, I’m glad he got to play somewhere. I have absolutely 0 against the kid. Just don’t think he had the gunslinger mentality to make it work here.
O’Connell? It was that drive and then maybe one next week vs Northwestern where I knew we had our guy.I’ll never forget being in RA when he came in and won the Nebraska game. My Husker fan buds were like, “Who the #%*$ is this guy!!??”
Yep. It was amazing to me that Brohm ever thought Plummer was better. Must have looked better in practice.O’Connell? It was that drive and then maybe one next week vs Northwestern where I knew we had our guy.
Who knows. I’m sure that the walk on tag was hanging over that. You open yourself up to a lot when you start a walk on over a scholie guy, even when one might be slightly better.Yep. It was amazing to me that Brohm ever thought Plummer was better. Must have looked better in practice.
The OL looked shaky going into 2021, and I’m sure Plummer’s mobility factored into that decision a bit.Who knows. I’m sure that the walk on tag was hanging over that. You open yourself up to a lot when you start a walk on over a scholie guy, even when one might be slightly better.
O’Connell took big steps in 2020 IMO and should have been the starter going into 2021, no question.
I think because the team as a whole in 2020 didn’t look good because of injuries and Covid, it skewed just how good AOC was and could be.
Definitely think 2021 is a better year for us wins wise if we play AOC from the beginning as well.
It goes back to 2019. The run game was nearly nonexistent and even Brohm knew that being completely one-dimensional in the Big Ten is a problem. Also, with Rondale and Bell as the primary weapons, the importance was just getting the ball into their hands and not throwing picks. Brohm gave Plummer multiple opportunities to win the job for his mobility and lack of turnovers. But in the end, his lack of down field throwing ability stunted the offense. Just like in the various 'weather' games, the Brohm offense sputters when it can't stretch the field.The OL looked shaky going into 2021, and I’m sure Plummer’s mobility factored into that decision a bit.
I dunno what this was supposed to stir up…but I’ll bite. AOC had superior everything when it came to Plummer and it was easy to see side by side. We had a hell of a WR crops last year and Plummer was flat out scared at times to pull the trigger. I think it definitely cost us the ND game and almost cost us the Illinois game last year before Aidan saved the day.
All of this said, I think Plummer was an ok college QB. We just had 1 better on the roster.
Being ranked doesn’t mean you have a good defense.
None of those teams have very good defenses.ND, USC, and UCLA are better teams than anyone we faced in the West. And perhaps better than anyone we faced all year. Penn St would be the exception...
None of those teams have very good defenses.
I don’t think any PAC-12 defenses are very good.I find it funny that Big Ten West defenses get ranked by playing not so great Big Ten West offenses. Sorry, but teams like Notre Dame pass the eye test defensively vs teams like Illinois. There's zero way Illinois is a top 10 defense. They're just not. Neither is Minnesota. They are highly overrated. Both teams got exposed by a pretty mediocre Purdue offense. And both had weak schedules...
Alabama is ranked 15th while Illinois is 2nd. You realistically think Purdue would score 31 on 'Bama?...
Bama’s defense this year was not close to being as good as it had in years past. I think Purdue would easily put up 27-31 on this years Bama team. Far worse offenses put up more or the same on them.I find it funny that Big Ten West defenses get ranked by playing not so great Big Ten West offenses. Sorry, but teams like Notre Dame pass the eye test defensively vs teams like Illinois. There's zero way Illinois is a top 10 defense. They're just not. Neither is Minnesota. They are highly overrated. Both teams got exposed by a pretty mediocre Purdue offense. And both had weak schedules...
Alabama is ranked 15th while Illinois is 2nd. You realistically think Purdue would score 31 on 'Bama?...
Utah would disagree...I don’t think any PAC-12 defenses are very good.
…and Cal didn’t play the one good defense in the PAC-12 this year.Utah would disagree...
Utah would disagree...
Bama’s defense this year was not close to being as good as it had in years past. I think Purdue would easily put up 27-31 on this years Bama team. Far worse offenses put up more or the same on them.