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Since it's out in the open now, Purdue is looking at a 2016 prospect Matt Chastain from Leroy High School in Illinois. 6'7 forward.... Has some Robbie Hummel in him. Doesn't have any high major offers but is blowing up after playing well in the state tournament recently. Could be a solid option for 2016.

 
Since it's out in the open now, Purdue is looking at a 2016 prospect Matt Chastain from Leroy High School in Illinois. 6'7 forward.... Has some Robbie Hummel in him. Doesn't have any high major offers but is blowing up after playing well in the state tournament recently. Could be a solid option for 2016.

Played Class 1A and a lot of the opponents looked to be 4-5 inches shorter than Chastain. Pretty easy to get jumpers off when not being guarded by 6'5 to 6'8 opponents. Was not impressed with the two videos I viewed.
 
Played Class 1A and a lot of the opponents looked to be 4-5 inches shorter than Chastain. Pretty easy to get jumpers off when not being guarded by 6'5 to 6'8 opponents. Was not impressed with the two videos I viewed.
Getting interest due to playing really well against high level competition in the state tournament. He's pretty athletic & has some nice hops. I wouldn't mind an offer.
 
Chastain has received offers from Loyola Chicago, Southeastern Louisiana, Utah State, Utah, Furman, Penn, Miami (Ohio), Illinois State, Indiana State and SIU-Edwardsville. — the 6-foot-6 forward is averaging 26.0 points, 7.5 rebounds, 2.6 assists and 2.4 steals

http://ilprepbullseye.com/Chastain_LeRoy.html
From the link: "In the championship game, Chastain scored 21 points, 12 of them coming in the first quarter. However, he was even better in the game prior to that, scoring 20 points to go along with 14 rebounds, 6 blocks and 5 steals in a semifinal win over Liberty. And Chastain's best performance of all came in the supersectional, as he tallied 34 points on 14-17 shooting and grabbed 12 rebounds.

Chastain has very good ball handling skills as well as outstanding athleticism and ability to finish in traffic. Moreover, he plays extremely aggressively. This is especially evident by the fact that he is just as exciting on defense as he is on offense, as his athleticism and speed allow him to be a terrific rebounder and shot blocker. To top it all off, Chastain carries a 4.0 grade point average in the classroom."
 
Recruiting videos paint a limited and rosy picture of a player, but:

Strengths:

-shooting
-athleticism
-ball handling

Weaknesses:

-quickness
-strength

Can he slash to create shots for himself or others? Academics? Legitimate 6'6"?

Interesting prospect
 
Sounds like this guy, and Desmond Bane, are basically waiting for PU to offer and each would accept immediately.

Meanwhile, 38342876493876 kids are leaving top programs via transfer, looking for new homes.

And, the ((((loaded)))) 2017 class hangs out there in the unforeseeable future, luring away and banking our future scholarships for potential blue chip players.


In CMP we trust.
 
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when people say they didn't play against good competition , I don't buy that, I have seen players come from my small home town who that was said about them and they did very well in college, talent is talent, no matter where you come from
 
I'd offer a scholly at the same time to both Bane and this kid and tell them whoever accepts first gets the scholarship. I would personally rather have Bane as I believe he did what he did over a more consistent basis....averaged 17, 24, and 30 his three years on varsity and appears to be still be growing a bit. He is much more of a combo guard than what Chastain appears to be and the wings seem to be set with Mathias, Edwards, and Smotherman. That being said, I'd gladly take both players this late in the 2016 class for next season.
 
I'd offer a scholly at the same time to both Bane and this kid and tell them whoever accepts first gets the scholarship. I would personally rather have Bane as I believe he did what he did over a more consistent basis....averaged 17, 24, and 30 his three years on varsity and appears to be still be growing a bit. He is much more of a combo guard than what Chastain appears to be and the wings seem to be set with Mathias, Edwards, and Smotherman. That being said, I'd gladly take both players this late in the 2016 class for next season.

I wouldn't want to use up two 2017 scholarships here. I would wait and see how the transfer thing plays out and then probably offer one unless something else opens up for 2017 and beyond.
 
Sounds like this guy, and Desmond Bane, are basically waiting for PU to offer and each would accept immediately.

Meanwhile, 38342876493876 kids are leaving top programs via transfer, looking for new homes.

And, the ((((loaded)))) 2017 class hangs out there in the unforeseeable future, luring away and banking our future scholarships for potential blue chip players.


In CMP we trust.
You realize we were going to take another one or two 2016 players while still actively looking for transfers & have schollies for 2017? Jeeze dude get a grip.
 
I wouldn't want to use up two 2017 scholarships here. I would wait and see how the transfer thing plays out and then probably offer one unless something else opens up for 2017 and beyond.

Let me clarify if I wasn't clear. I think CMP should offer a scholarship to both players and tell them that the first to commit gets the sole scholarship available at this period in time. The player that does not accept does not get a scholarship. I wouldn't offer both players to each have a scholarship unless CMP knows another transfer is possibly or he believes a player can develop over their freshman year and as a sophomore can give more to the program than a true freshman from the 2017 class.
 
You realize we were going to take another one or two 2016 players while still actively looking for transfers & have schollies for 2017? Jeeze dude get a grip.

OK, I'll get a grip.

Was just laying out the three scenarios I see RE the three remaining scholarships for next year. Offer new Frosh or two, maybe a seasoned transfer/s, or bank them for 17. Seems to be the conventional wisdom around here.

And my final line of "In CMP we trust" is short for "GOOD LUCK COACH, HOPE YOU DONT F%^K IT UP OR WE WILL ALL HATE YOU FOREVER AND EVER!!!!!"

Not sure what grip I'm supposed to get, but Ill go look for it. Thx homie.
 
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Don't think we have any interest but Mike Bibby's son(same name) is a 3* PG. Read an article saying he doesn't have many offers because he missed a lot of his junior year because of a knee injury.
 
Chastain has very good ball handling skills as well as outstanding athleticism and ability to finish in traffic. Moreover, he plays extremely aggressively. This is especially evident by the fact that he is just as exciting on defense as he is on offense, as his athleticism and speed allow him to be a terrific rebounder and shot blocker. To top it all off, Chastain carries a 4.0 grade point average in the classroom."

I didn't watch any film and I don't know the people who wrote the above. If I were to define the things we most wanted this year, they would be:

1. slasher able to finish in traffic.
2. ballhandling - esp agains the press
3. consistent ouotside shot
4. more aggressive style on D (Cardinal/Kramer)
5. More athleticism

You can't coach athleticism, can't improve speed a lot, and you can't coach height and it's darn hard to coach aggressiveness to the extent the Cardianal/Kramer/Foster had.

I see goodness behind those doors.
 
when people say they didn't play against good competition , I don't buy that, I have seen players come from my small home town who that was said about them and they did very well in college, talent is talent, no matter where you come from
In some regards. But if this were true guys like Doug McDermott and Jimmer Fredette would be tearing up the NBA. Whatever level you are at, projecting to the next level is all about how your skills translate. For high school kids playing against D1 talent in high school or AAU it is much easier to project. Something as simple as not having a quick first step or shooting trigger can render a prolific scorer at one level completely useless at the next. Baseball players become lifetime minor leaguers because while they can consistently crush 90 mph fastballs 450 feet they can never hit the big league curve.

Note: I'm not arguing against Chastain. I know nothing about him.
 
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Some random thoughts on this "save them for 2017" theory. If we get any of the highly rated guys, will they be one-and-done or maybe two-and-done. Seems to me they will be, thus leaving us to reload with freshmen in 2019 (or maybe '18), but what great player in '18 or '19 wants to play behind someone as good as our '17 guys, in case they do stay? Tough questions without any real answers. If we grab at least one solid player now, using a scholarship that could be banked, we end-up in '18 '19 with a solid player with 2+ years in the program.

Add into this the guess that we won't get more than one of the really good ones and another one of the pretty good ones in '17. That's only two scholarships.... so the rest of these scholarships we are wanting to bank will be used for solid guys ..... pretty much like the solid guys we might get now. You never know the recruiting future.

So what's the big deal about banking scholarships for the '17 class, Do we really think we are going to have a four-star want to come here in '17 and we won't have room? Would someone we take now and get into the program a year (or two) earlier be better than the someone below the top tier '17 guys that we end-up using the last scholarship in '17 on?
 
OK, I'll get a grip.

Was just laying out the three scenarios I see RE the three remaining scholarships for next year. Offer new Frosh or two, maybe a seasoned transfer/s, or bank them for 17. Seems to be the conventional wisdom around here.

And my final line of "In CMP we trust" is short for "GOOD LUCK COACH, HOPE YOU DONT F%^K IT UP OR WE WILL ALL HATE YOU FOREVER AND EVER!!!!!"

Not sure what grip I'm supposed to get, but Ill go look for it. Thx homie.
Lol freak.
 
Some random thoughts on this "save them for 2017" theory. If we get any of the highly rated guys, will they be one-and-done or maybe two-and-done. Seems to me they will be, thus leaving us to reload with freshmen in 2019 (or maybe '18), but what great player in '18 or '19 wants to play behind someone as good as our '17 guys, in case they do stay? Tough questions without any real answers. If we grab at least one solid player now, using a scholarship that could be banked, we end-up in '18 '19 with a solid player with 2+ years in the program.

Add into this the guess that we won't get more than one of the really good ones and another one of the pretty good ones in '17. That's only two scholarships.... so the rest of these scholarships we are wanting to bank will be used for solid guys ..... pretty much like the solid guys we might get now. You never know the recruiting future.

So what's the big deal about banking scholarships for the '17 class, Do we really think we are going to have a four-star want to come here in '17 and we won't have room? Would someone we take now and get into the program a year (or two) earlier be better than the someone below the top tier '17 guys that we end-up using the last scholarship in '17 on?
As critical as I believe the 2017 and 2018 recruiting classes to be, I think the concept of banking the 2016 schollies is a bit overrated. Out of the 3 open spots for 2016, if you bring in 2 more freshman and a 1 year grad transfer, you will still likely clear 3-5 spots for 2017 - Kendall, Grad transfer, Biggie and/or Haas going pro, and likely another annual unanticipated transfer. The only possible upside of carrying less than a full deck of scholarship players in 2016-17 is to enhance your playing time pitch to the 2017 and 2018 recruits. There will be room for them when all is said and done regardless.
 
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Chastain has received offers from Loyola Chicago, Southeastern Louisiana, Utah State, Utah, Furman, Penn, Miami (Ohio), Illinois State, Indiana State and SIU-Edwardsville. — the 6-foot-6 forward is averaging 26.0 points, 7.5 rebounds, 2.6 assists and 2.4 steals

http://ilprepbullseye.com/Chastain_LeRoy.html
From the link: "In the championship game, Chastain scored 21 points, 12 of them coming in the first quarter. However, he was even better in the game prior to that, scoring 20 points to go along with 14 rebounds, 6 blocks and 5 steals in a semifinal win over Liberty. And Chastain's best performance of all came in the supersectional, as he tallied 34 points on 14-17 shooting and grabbed 12 rebounds.

Chastain has very good ball handling skills as well as outstanding athleticism and ability to finish in traffic. Moreover, he plays extremely aggressively. This is especially evident by the fact that he is just as exciting on defense as he is on offense, as his athleticism and speed allow him to be a terrific rebounder and shot blocker. To top it all off, Chastain carries a 4.0 grade point average in the classroom."
He scored 21 pts in the championship game. The whole team had 38. He's got decent hops. They beat a very good Chicago Leo team who should've been in the 3A tournament. Leo is a private school and plays a lot of 3A schools.
 
As critical as I believe the 2017 and 2018 recruiting classes to be, I think the concept of banking the 2016 schollies is a bit overrated. Out of the 3 open spots for 2016, if you bring in 2 more freshman and a 1 year grad transfer, you will still likely clear 3-5 spots for 2017 - Kendall, Grad transfer, Biggie and/or Haas going pro, and likely another annual unanticipated transfer. The only possible upside of carrying less than a full deck of scholarship players in 2016-17 is to add to enhance your playing time pitch to the 2017 and 2018 recruits. There will be room for them when all is said and done regardless.
That adds some clarity. Thanks. I absolutely don't see Haas going early (supported by the article about AJ's draft chances) and I really don't see Biggie going after two years. But one NEVER knows. I just would prefer having a solid player at the right position with two years experience at PU over the more or less same players coming in as a freshman. If we bank, we won't have that player with two years experience.

BTW, I agree with someone else transferring along the way. It's life in the Big Time these days.
 
Since it's out in the open now, Purdue is looking at a 2016 prospect Matt Chastain from Leroy High School in Illinois. 6'7 forward.... Has some Robbie Hummel in him. Doesn't have any high major offers but is blowing up after playing well in the state tournament recently. Could be a solid option for 2016.

It's a highlight video but I'm a little stoked. 6'6" and can dribble. I have no idea of his passing, but he can get to the rim AND has range. He is athletic enough to play, has enough length, can get to the rim, has range, 6'6" and a good student. He can elevate on his jump shot...although at times it appears his guide hand follows the ball more than I like. Soooooo, why not the offers because this video shows some things and I assume he was seen in AAU UNLESS he just now had that light go off. I would need to see Bane more, but this kid is pretty versatile...

some shots his guide hand looks okay...hard to tell in a video
 
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It's a highlight video but I'm a little stoked. 6'6" and can dribble. I have no idea of his passing, but he can get to the rim AND has range. He is athletic enough to play, has enough length, can get to the rim, has range, 6'6" and a good student. He can elevate on his jump shot...although at times it appears his guide hand follows the ball more than I like. Soooooo, why not the offers because this video shows some things and I assume he was seen in AAU UNLESS he just now had that light go off. I would need to see Bane more, but this kid is pretty versatile...

some shots his guide hand looks okay...hard to tell in a video
I like this video as well. Shows some great athleticism on the defense end. Kid has hops.


 
I like this video as well. Shows some great athleticism on the defense end. Kid has hops.


yeah, saw that and the impromptu dunk contest between team members. I can see some robbie in some areas, but wish I could see him pass more. Robbie played PG in high school and that really helped him become who he was. I just don't understand how this kid has been hidden "UNLESS" he is one of those players that the light just now came on. Great find..I'll stay tuned to this situation ...

 
It's a highlight video but I'm a little stoked. 6'6" and can dribble. I have no idea of his passing, but he can get to the rim AND has range. He is athletic enough to play, has enough length, can get to the rim, has range, 6'6" and a good student. He can elevate on his jump shot...although at times it appears his guide hand follows the ball more than I like. Soooooo, why not the offers because this video shows some things and I assume he was seen in AAU UNLESS he just now had that light go off. I would need to see Bane more, but this kid is pretty versatile...

some shots his guide hand looks okay...hard to tell in a video
I'm PROFILING - he goes to Butler or Northwestern and eats us up his Jr. and Sr. years.

I'm PROFILING - His parents see Purdue as a BIG school and he's not used to that at all (notice the stands) and prefer he go to a school like Marquette or Butler.

I'm GUESSING - He comes here, redshirts next year (because he's going to grad school anyway and is behind Mathias, Cline, Edwards, and Smotherman), plays some his RSfreshmen year behind Mathis/Cline and more behind Edwards/Smotherman?? and gives us solid minutes his Soph year on. With his ballhandling, he can be a 6'5"+ 2 or a OK size 3. I'm guessing education is as important as basketball. I'm guessing he is fine with lower minutes for a few years, I'm guessing he wants to stay close to home. I'm guessing we offer.
 
I like this video as well. Shows some great athleticism on the defense end. Kid has hops.


I saw a pump fake, shoulder lead into a jumper, a penetrate and step-back to a jumpt shot, a shot with a hand coming right to his eye, and a jumper quick enough that the def never left his feet (aceepting the level of competition). As Reese says, can he pass? Does he even look to pass (since he scored 21 out of 38 points)? Does he rebound? They say he plays D?

The different ways he gets his shot indicates to me he has someone in his life working him on good stuff. Are they working him on anything but his shot?
 
I say it stands at Utah a week from today. Will change when Painter goes overboard and offers a scholarship.
 
I'd take Bane over this kid in a second. That kid has no left hand, and all his "attacking the rim" we're off steals for breakaway dunks, and he seems at least a head taller than everyone he was playing so he was just shooting over them. Not impressed. I see no Hummel in his game except the fact he's a tall white kid. Bane seems to be able to so it all.
 
I'd take Bane over this kid in a second. That kid has no left hand, and all his "attacking the rim" we're off steals for breakaway dunks, and he seems at least a head taller than everyone he was playing so he was just shooting over them. Not impressed. I see no Hummel in his game except the fact he's a tall white kid. Bane seems to be able to so it all.
Off of video alone I would take this kid over Bane. Has BIG athleticism and love the dribble pull up. There is attractive look to his game. Needs a left hand. State Champ and a winner no matter what class.
 
In some regards. But if this were true guys like Doug McDermott and Jimmer Fredette would be tearing up the NBA. Whatever level you are at, projecting to the next level is all about how your skills translate. For high school kids playing against D1 talent in high school or AAU it is much easier to project. Something as simple as not having a quick first step or shooting trigger can render a prolific scorer at one level completely useless at the next. Baseball players become lifetime minor leaguers because while they can consistently crush 90 mph fastballs 450 feet they can never hit the big league curve.

Note: I'm not arguing against Chastain. I know nothing about him.
MxDermott's doing well with the Bulls this year. Kid can flat stroke it, and is more athletic than you probably think.
 
I'd take Bane over this kid in a second. That kid has no left hand, and all his "attacking the rim" we're off steals for breakaway dunks, and he seems at least a head taller than everyone he was playing so he was just shooting over them. Not impressed. I see no Hummel in his game except the fact he's a tall white kid. Bane seems to be able to so it all.
I've only watched highlight videos, but from the videos I've seen, it is easier to see how Chastain's game translates to the Big Ten than Bane's. Bane certainly looks like a creative scorer, but most of his shots in the highlight videos have a low release point and I'm not sure that I see the quickness in the videos to compensate.

Chastain looks like he would have much more success getting his jump shot off than Bane. If Chastain can hit his high release three point shot with consistency, he will a big threat and a nice compliment to Carson Edwards, who I expect to become a complete scorer that will benefit from great spacing.
 
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It's a highlight video but I'm a little stoked. 6'6" and can dribble. I have no idea of his passing, but he can get to the rim AND has range. He is athletic enough to play, has enough length, can get to the rim, has range, 6'6" and a good student. He can elevate on his jump shot...although at times it appears his guide hand follows the ball more than I like. Soooooo, why not the offers because this video shows some things and I assume he was seen in AAU UNLESS he just now had that light go off. I would need to see Bane more, but this kid is pretty versatile...

some shots his guide hand looks okay...hard to tell in a video


We need to offer this kid immediately. In the entire 8 minutes of footage he didn't miss a single shot!!!!!!!!
 
when people say they didn't play against good competition , I don't buy that, I have seen players come from my small home town who that was said about them and they did very well in college, talent is talent, no matter where you come from

You must be from a small town. The competition one plays against in high school absolutely makes a difference. Try playing in the Chicago Public League.
 
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