New Offensive Strategy?

[Dryfly88]

I didn't want to hi-jack another thread.

FirstdownB was making a joke in another thread about trying to give Isaac a breather by keeping him on the offensive end. I know he was just kidding but it's a slow day in the office today so....

What would the opponent do if IH just stayed at the offensive end? Would they keep someone back towards mid-court to protect against an easy basket or would they go 5 on 4 believing they could get back in time to stop easy hoop on other end?

Just for entertainment purposes, what do you think the opponent would do?

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I didn't want to hi-jack another thread.

FirstdownB was making a joke in another thread about trying to give Isaac a breather by keeping him on the offensive end. I know he was just kidding but it's a slow day in the office today so....

What would the opponent do if IH just stayed at the offensive end? Would they keep someone back towards mid-court to protect against an easy basket or would they go 5 on 4 believing they could get back in time to stop easy hoop on other end?

Just for entertainment purposes, what do you think the opponent would do?

you play your normal offensive strategy with a guard left out high to defend IH as soon as a shot is attempted or made. Quite easy to defend in reality.

 

[Dryfly88]

you play your normal offensive strategy with a guard left out high to defend IH as soon as a shot is attempted or made. Quite easy to defend in reality.

Here is an article written about this strategy. Obvious differences:

1. This article is about the NBA
2. They were talking about doing it for the whole game

http://www.bigthreesports.com/cherry-picking-nba/

I just think it's interesting to think about a very short term strategy to keep a player fresh. Even if you only "broke even" or lost slightly, wouldn't it be better than having one of your best players on the bench? I have watched thousands of college games and have never seen it intentionally done. Admittedly that probably answers my question, but somebody could be the first to try.

C'mon TJ this kind of analyzing/strategy should be right up your alley.

 

[dwhitebash11]

What happens if the hail mary pass is tipped? Intercepted? Or if it's a bad pass, and Haas has to move from the basket, delaying his dunk and allowing a defender or two to make it back in time to defend?


What happens if he gets a 3 second call in the paint after Purdue rebounds?


Seems like a bad decision to have a 7'2 big man NOT clogging the paint defensively on a consistent basis.


Now as your second post says, it may be decent for a very short term strategy... Throw it in there 3-4 times a game, see if we can get 6 easy points that way... Like on misses, after a few sprints by both teams going back and forth, have Haas just stay for a play while the opposition is on transition offense... It just may work?

 

[FirstDownB]

I'm glad that thought tickled some imaginations!
I think very limited versions of this might work until the opponent figured out how to adjust. Even on defense, I'm not sure the opponent would acknowledge right away how to take advantage of a 4 man zone defense. You just don't practice that.

The bigger picture is keeping our thin front court as fresh as possible. That can be accomplished in more subtle ways, such as Isaac staying back on fast breaks, not diving for every loose ball (he'd probably just get whistled for a foul anyway!). Special exemptions for conserving energy seem to run counter to our coaching philosophy, however.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Is this a serious discussion?

If so, I don't think it is a viable strategy. A four man zone would be easy to score on and it is difficult to fast break off a made basket.

 

[Dryfly88]

Is this a serious discussion?

If so, I don't think it is a viable strategy. A four man zone would be easy to score on and it is difficult to fast break off a made basket.

It's a semi-serious discussion and honestly if you have read some of the other threads lately with the name-calling and negativity being thrown around, this one isn't too bad so far.

Many teams fast break off a made basket without having a guy already down under their basket. Our friends in East Lansing do it very effectively. Imagine if they had a guy already in the lane at the other end. I think you would have to drop a guy back at least some which makes it more of a 4-4 situation and not as easy to score against.

Just thinking a possession or two here and there to give Isaac a breather so he can stay in the game and be effective.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

It's a semi-serious discussion and honestly if you have read some of the other threads lately with the name-calling and negativity being thrown around, this one isn't too bad so far.

Many teams fast break off a made basket without having a guy already down under their basket. Our friends in East Lansing do it very effectively. Imagine if they had a guy already in the lane at the other end. I think you would have to drop a guy back at least some which makes it more of a 4-4 situation and not as easy to score against.

Just thinking a possession or two here and there to give Isaac a breather so he can stay in the game and be effective.

There's no good excuse for ever giving up a fast break layup off a made shot, IMO.

I'd prefer what the Lakers used to do with Kareem, where they tried to run as often as possible with Kareem not participating in the fast break. Purdue doesn't run as often, but when they do, Haas could conserve some energy.

 

[Dakota Girl]

I didn't want to hi-jack another thread.

FirstdownB was making a jokeS ore in another thread about trying to give Isaac a breather by keeping him on the offensive end. I know he was just kidding but it's a slow day in the office today so....

What would the opponent do if IH just stayed at the offensive end? Would they keep someone back towards mid-court to protect against an easy basket or would they go 5 on 4 believing they could get back in time to stop easy hoop on other end?

Just for entertainment purposes, what do you think the opponent would do?

Score relentlessly and giggle hysterically.

 

[Dakota Girl]

I always enjoyed playing 4 on 4 because as a big it tended ripen up the paint and cutting lanes. I think it makes defense harder. Not sure a possession or two would help Haas that much. My thinking is just employ more small ball when Haas is on bench. I think that could be good anyway.
Interesting question though.