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NCAA coaching salary cap?

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This was slightly touched on in a football thread and thought I'd bring it over here as it is a bit more active. With a little Google effort I am sure I can find some articles about this, but I want to hear thoughts of my fellow Purdue alums/fans.

Do you think it would be good for there to be a cap on annual salaries for coaches? Obviously the focus would be on men's BB and FB, but it could apply to all sports. Some issues I can see that would need addressed are:

1) What would the cap be? Something like $2M jumps to mind, but would this still be crazy high for other schools/conferences and not really drive much parity?

2) Would the cap apply equally to all conferences regardless of average conf resources available? $2M a year might be feasible for P5 schools, but likely not all Div 1 schools.

3) Would a cap dry up good coaches at the collegiate level? I would think not since the very best tend to migrate to the typically higher pro salaries and there are a limited number of those jobs.

4) How would you (if even possible or legal) limit the non-fixed annual salary components to coaching compensation? Admittedly I am ignorant to many details here, but I know there are bonuses, endorsements, and other types of non-salary pay coaches get and some of this is not regulated by the university.

5) Would this help create better coaching parity between schools? Would the "top" coaches still go to the "blue bloods" or if they could make the same salary at for instance their alma mater or school they first made it big at, would they stay there? Is this a good thing?

6) Would this create parity on the court/field or would "blue bloods" and "destination" schools still rake in all the top talent and nothing changes? I think there is evidence a great coach can bring in talent at less renowned schools and these coaches usually get big raises to leave for better gigs. Imagine if they stayed at those schools.

7) Would this help save schools money on aggregate (NCAA wide)? Or would parity water down the top schools earning potential and on the whole generate less revenue for schools on the aggregate? (i.e. would the NCAA suffer total revenue loss?)

7) Would this improve the game (talking men's BB and FB) or would parity take a negative toll on the level of the product on the floor/field and/or on fandom?

I am sure there are a ton of other issues/questions around this topic and I have little doubt my fellow knuckleheads will articulate them in this thread. Have at it boys and girls!
 
In general I hate the idea but if we're going to go there let's have fun with it and give a salary cap for all coaches in an athletic department. Let's say 10 million for all coaches of all sports and let each school have the discretion to split it how they see fit. That would make things more interesting.

Seriously though I see no good reason to do that.
 
I'm a fan of free markets. If Duke wants to pay Coach K $8mm a year and charge students $50k a year that is there prerogative.
 
I'm a fan of free markets. If Duke wants to pay Coach K $8mm a year and charge students $50k a year that is there prerogative.
I enjoy watching sports and the like, but every time coaches, athlete's, actors, etc get new obscene contracts my cable bill increases. Someone has to pay so how much money do these people need? Talk about sapping the economy, cell phones, cable tv, and internet expense makes it hard for young people to buy a house.
 
We have an open position with the departure of Lowe. Painter should be offering the McCoy family members some jobs. Zo did it and landed some big time prospects. McCoy would be worth the hire for sure. Plenty of other teams are doing it and it's legal. Let's go et him!
 
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I enjoy watching sports and the like, but every time coaches, athlete's, actors, etc get new obscene contracts my cable bill increases. Someone has to pay so how much money do these people need? Talk about sapping the economy, cell phones, cable tv, and internet expense makes it hard for young people to buy a house.
I understand that concern but ESPN is starting to feel the pains of the free market as they continue to lose more subscribers every month. Perhaps the future NBA contracts won't be able to be so big because the ESPN TV revenue will have shrunk.
 
I understand that concern but ESPN is starting to feel the pains of the free market as they continue to lose more subscribers every month. Perhaps the future NBA contracts won't be able to be so big because the ESPN TV revenue will have shrunk.
Yes, the consumer is going to have something to say about this, with or without a salary cap. I don't recall the exact stats but something like 8 out of 10 adults under 30 don't even have a traditional cable or satellite service. The days of being able to get non sports fans to subsidize ESPN and BTN with their cable package are numbered.
 
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I enjoy watching sports and the like, but every time coaches, athlete's, actors, etc get new obscene contracts my cable bill increases. Someone has to pay so how much money do these people need? Talk about sapping the economy, cell phones, cable tv, and internet expense makes it hard for young people to buy a house.

Stop watching. If enough people are in agreement and act on it the economics will change. I've never understood people complaining about how much an entertainer makes while continuing to partake in that entertainment. That's why I won't give a minute of free time to watching NBA. Well that and it's a horrible product targeting the depths of society. The NCAA is close to losing me too if they go from stipends to salaries. I would have very little interest in cheering for a semi pro team that just happens to be located in West Lafayette.
 
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Stop watching. If enough people are in agreement and act on it the economics will change. I've never understood people complaining about how much an entertainer makes while continuing to partake in that entertainment. That's why I won't give a minute of free time to watching NBA. Well that and it's a horrible product targeting the depths of society. The NCAA is close to losing me too if they go from stipends to salaries. I would have very little interest in cheering for a semi pro team that just happens to be located in West Lafayette.
Well unfortunately you and I are paying cable rates for the NBA even though we don't watch it. At one time I had season tickets for the Blackhawks and the Colts. I barely watch anymore and many other people have taken my place.

I used to be a sports fanatic, but the money they make turns me off. I enjoyed it was once a game, but now being big business is not for me even though I am still paying for it in goods purchased and cable bills.
 
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Well unfortunately you and I are paying cable rates for the NBA even though we don't watch it. At one time I had season tickets for the Blackhawks and the Colts. I barely watch anymore and many other people have taken my place.

I used to be a sports fanatic, but the money they make turns me off. I enjoyed it was once a game, but now being big business is not for me even though I am still paying for it in goods purchased and cable bills.

You could cut the cord then you aren't paying a cable bill anymore OR even with cable if people quit watching the ratings will drop and a lower demand for the product will mean less money the next time the TV contract comes up. Nothing would make me happier than to see ABC/ESPN lose a ton of money on their NBA rights because people came to their senses and quit watching a terrible product that extends its basketball season into the summer. It's the only sport where I cheer for a lockout/strike.
 
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You could cut the cord then you aren't paying a cable bill anymore OR even with cable if people quit watching the ratings will drop and a lower demand for the product will mean less money the next time the TV contract comes up. Nothing would make me happier than to see ABC/ESPN lose a ton of money on their NBA rights because people came to their senses and quit watching a terrible product that extends its basketball season into the summer. It's the only sport where I cheer for a lockout/strike.
Yes I could cut the cord on cable and stop buying products. At that extreme I would be dead. It amazes me how much people pay for Nike etc products. The athletes and the like have to get their cut. Paying big money for a two dollar pair of basketball shoes is crazy, but that's the culture we currently live in.
 
Yes I could cut the cord on cable and stop buying products. At that extreme I would be dead. It amazes me how much people pay for Nike etc products. The athletes and the like have to get their cut. Paying big money for a two dollar pair of basketball shoes is crazy, but that's the culture we currently live in.

I find it equally mind-boggling that the movie industry thrives as it does. Then again, I probably haven't been inside a movie theater but a half dozen times in the past 17 years but there are people that will literally go see movies most every weekend. I can't be critical on what others see fit to spend their money on but if they turn around and complain about how much money, power, and influence movie stars have then I just don't understand how they don't comprehend how they contribute to that.
 
I'm curious, and I know this may be straying some but..... How do each of you watch PU basketball games? Do you pay for cable/satellite and watch them live? Do you go to bars that have them on? Or do you have some other means legal or otherwise to get the broadcast without paying? I'm not up on all of the means available to get games so I'm just curious how someone would watch without "contributing" to the cable/satellite industry.

I don't care for the NBA, but I'm certainly contributing my share when I look at my satellite bill each month!:(
 
I have DirecTV that allows me to watch them most every game whether that be on an ESPN channel or Big Ten Network. Starting to explore alternatives though to deliver all/most of the programming I desire in a cheaper format.
 
I'm curious, and I know this may be straying some but..... How do each of you watch PU basketball games? Do you pay for cable/satellite and watch them live? Do you go to bars that have them on? Or do you have some other means legal or otherwise to get the broadcast without paying? I'm not up on all of the means available to get games so I'm just curious how someone would watch without "contributing" to the cable/satellite industry.

I don't care for the NBA, but I'm certainly contributing my share when I look at my satellite bill each month!:(
Big ten network and ESPN so I continue to pay.

As a sidebar, I used to sell sports cards and memorabilia twenty years ago. The old time players were so nice and took the time with the paying customers. The modern players signed and couldn't wait to get out the door. They wouldn't stay an extra ten minutes or have the same interaction with the fans which the retired players did. They signed so sloppy that no one could read their signatures. Anyway these experiences have turned me off so much that I barely watch professional sports.
 
I'm curious, and I know this may be straying some but..... How do each of you watch PU basketball games? Do you pay for cable/satellite and watch them live? Do you go to bars that have them on? Or do you have some other means legal or otherwise to get the broadcast without paying? I'm not up on all of the means available to get games so I'm just curious how someone would watch without "contributing" to the cable/satellite industry.

I don't care for the NBA, but I'm certainly contributing my share when I look at my satellite bill each month!:(

i have switched to PS vue and it is pretty good... and only $35/month for the lowest package with Btn.

may try youtube tv when that becomes available in IN too
 
We are no longer able to get DirectTV here on our mountain because the trees block out the signal and my local provider does not carry the B1G Channel. I went so far as to beg my sister and her husband ( both IU Grads) to let me install a Sling Box to one of their TV's ( in West Lafayette) and it slings the B1G Channel to me down here in the mountains of North Carolina!!! But a girl's got to do what a girl's gotta do to see her Boilermakers...:cool:
 
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