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Can somebody give me the name, without the help of Google, of one person from Michigan State famous for something other than athletics?
 
Aren't most university's like this? Quick, do UCLA. Now do vandy. Now Iowa state. Now Miami. Doesn't mean they're bad schools, just that we pay more attention to athletics.

However, when btn trotted out their most famous alumni for each school, I think MSU was the only one that chose an athlete, which I thought was embarrassing. Shows how they view themselves. Did magic even get a degree there?
 
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Aren't most university's like this? Quick, do UCLA. Now do vandy. Now Iowa state. Now Miami. Doesn't mean they're bad schools, just that we pay more attention to athletics.

However, when btn trotted out their most famous alumni for each school, I think MSU was the only one that chose an athlete, which I thought was embarrassing. Shows how they view themselves. Did magic even get a degree there?
To be fair, aside from some astronauts and Orville Redenbacher, we haven't been tearing up the ranks of notable alumni. Ted Allen of Food Network? Drew Brees maybe our most distinguished alumni of the past 40 years. Sully gave us a proud moment 5 years ago. No real wealthy notables who could buy us out of Athletic misery.
 
To be fair, aside from some astronauts and Orville Redenbacher, we haven't been tearing up the ranks of notable alumni. Ted Allen of Food Network? Drew Brees maybe our most distinguished alumni of the past 40 years. Sully gave us a proud moment 5 years ago. No real wealthy notables who could buy us out of Athletic misery.
When I moved to Houston after graduating, Gerald Hines (Purdue ME 1947) was a large real estate developer there. I see he's still alive and now has a personal net worth of $1.3 BILLION and his company's got $25B+ in real estate value. I wonder if anyone from Purdue has ever approached him before? Wikipedia says he donated $7M to the University of Houston College of Architecture.
 
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To be fair, aside from some astronauts and Orville Redenbacher, we haven't been tearing up the ranks of notable alumni. Ted Allen of Food Network? Drew Brees maybe our most distinguished alumni of the past 40 years. Sully gave us a proud moment 5 years ago. No real wealthy notables who could buy us out of Athletic misery.

Edward Purcell might be the most notable Purdue alumnus,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Mills_Purcell
 
When I moved to Houston after graduating, Gerald Hines (Purdue ME 1947) was a large real estate developer there. I see he's still alive and now has a personal net worth of $1.3 BILLION and his company's got $25B+ in real estate value. I wonder if anyone from Purdue has ever approached him before? Wikipedia says he donated $7M to the University of Houston College of Architecture.
Interesting. I doubt Purdue has!
 
Thought this would be an msu football thread...
They have become just what I would want for Purdue.
Tough play, good teamwork, etc.
I know msu bball and izzo have begun to catch some flack in recent years but dantonio is great.
Like his demeanor on the sidelines and interviews and you can definitely see it through his team's play.
If they matchup with Alabama, I hope they can pull off the upset
 
To be fair, aside from some astronauts and Orville Redenbacher, we haven't been tearing up the ranks of notable alumni. Ted Allen of Food Network? Drew Brees maybe our most distinguished alumni of the past 40 years. Sully gave us a proud moment 5 years ago. No real wealthy notables who could buy us out of Athletic misery.
We also have Ryan Newman of NASCAR Fame.
 
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Neither Cann (MSU) or Peppard (Purdue) graduated from their respective universities. Caan attended MSU for just one year before leaving to pursue an acting career. Peppard studied engineering at Purdue for two years before transferring to what is now Carnegie Mellon.

My opinion is that to "claim" an individual as a representative of a particular institution that person should have actually graduated as opposed to simply hanging around for a year or two.

For example, Ted Kaczynski earned a PhD in Math from the University of Michigan. And yet, he's never on the the list of Michigan's most famous graduates.
 
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To be fair, aside from some astronauts and Orville Redenbacher, we haven't been tearing up the ranks of notable alumni. Ted Allen of Food Network? Drew Brees maybe our most distinguished alumni of the past 40 years. Sully gave us a proud moment 5 years ago. No real wealthy notables who could buy us out of Athletic misery.
George Ade,Birch Bayh,Kirk Fordyce,Joe Barton,Brian Bosma and Bart Peterson all come to mind.Doesnt Purdue have two Nobel Prize winners whose names escape me.Booth Tarkington is another name to remember.
 
George Ade,Birch Bayh,Kirk Fordyce,Joe Barton,Brian Bosma and Bart Peterson all come to mind.Doesnt Purdue have two Nobel Prize winners whose names escape me.Booth Tarkington is another name to remember.

Two faculty members have won nobel prices, Herbert Brown and Ei-ichi Negishi, both in chemistry.

One EE graduate, Edward Purcell, won the physics nobel prize. Purcell also was science advisor to Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson.
 
Neither Cann (MSU) or Peppard (Purdue) graduated from their respective universities. Caan attended MSU for just one year before leaving to pursue an acting career. Peppard studied engineering at Purdue for two years before transferring to what is now Carnegie Mellon.

My opinion is that to "claim" an individual as a representative of a particular institution that person should have actually graduated as opposed to simply hanging around for a year or two.

For example, Ted Kaczynski earned a PhD in Math from the University of Michigan. And yet, he's never on the the list of Michigan's most famous graduates.

That is kind of why I raised one George Peppard. Technically alumnus is a former student, not a graduate.
 
I understand, and agree that the definition of an alum is not restricted to a graduate. But, is Larry Bird really an IU alum? Technically yes, but I doubt most people associate him with IU.

When I think of individuals associated with academic institutions, I typically think of faculty, or students who received the bulk of their educations at an institution. Spending a year or two at a college or university while you hone your skills for something other than why you're "supposed" to be there in the first place and then leaving makes you an alum, but I'm not sure it qualifies you as a representative.

That's why I don't really include fifth-year graduate transfers who relocate simply to continue their NCAA careers. Unless they complete their degree requirements for their graduate programs, they're not really at that institution for any particular educational pursuit...it's all about the athletics.

I suppose there will be lots of exceptions no matter where the bright line that's chosen to delineate a "representative" of a college or university falls, so ultimately it's probably best determined on a case-by-case basis.
 
My point is: STRICTLY My opinion, some universities seem to place a greater priority on sports vs. education. I don't have any facts or figures to support my bias.

Well the facts are, in 2014 the football grad rates for B10 football teams are Purdue #9 (71%) MSU #10 (69%)....in 2013 Purdue was last in the B10 (64%) MSU #8 (70%)
To suggest Purdue places a greater priority on education vs. sports,and as a result, sucks at football, is a misconception. We're just not very good because of poor recruiting and poor coaching...plain and simple.
 
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MSU has Eli Broad, LA billionaire who is big in the art philanthropy circles. Dan Gilbert who started Quicken Loans. The billionaire who owns the Detroit Pistons, can't remember his name....Gores I think. James Caan played football there.
 
Nobody who ends up at Purdue could get into Stanford, and they would beat Purdue by 42 in football. This is a poor argument.
Au contriare, if you are speaking on grade requirements, Stanford's are pretty salty. However, they do practice the art of "Holistic" Admissions, looking at the whole person. I'd bet that there are a few guys whose whole person attributes include toting the rock, blocking & tackling that gain admission over someone more academically qualified.
 
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George Ade,Birch Bayh,Kirk Fordyce,Joe Barton,Brian Bosma and Bart Peterson all come to mind.Doesnt Purdue have two Nobel Prize winners whose names escape me.Booth Tarkington is another name to remember.
Don't forget Jim Gaffigan and Herman Cain.
 
To be fair, aside from some astronauts and Orville Redenbacher, we haven't been tearing up the ranks of notable alumni. Ted Allen of Food Network? Drew Brees maybe our most distinguished alumni of the past 40 years. Sully gave us a proud moment 5 years ago. No real wealthy notables who could buy us out of Athletic misery.

I'd say John Wooden was pretty famous, and also C-SPAN founder Brian Lamb, though most people have probably never heard of him.
 
MSU has Eli Broad, LA billionaire who is big in the art philanthropy circles. Dan Gilbert who started Quicken Loans. The billionaire who owns the Detroit Pistons, can't remember his name....Gores I think. James Caan played football there.

Jim Harrison.
 
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