One of the best pro gun speeches I've heard in a while. Also points out all of the D hypocrisy in a classy and factual manner.
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The dismantling of the second amendment is not happening.
The reason we can’t take reasonable and popular gun control legislation is because it’s a slippery slope? Are those the facts this gentleman is referring to?
Why don't we start by prosecuting, to the fullest extent of the law, those using firearms illegally.
And leave those legal gun owners alone.
Mark and Patricia McCloskey: What really went on in St Louis that day?
A US couple gained instant notoriety for waving guns at protesters. What really happened that day?
www.bbc.com
Look at one of the pictures and you see a protester, standing with what seems to be a semi automatic rifle in his hands, looking at the home owner, who also has a semi automatic rifle in his hands.
Let the trespassers alone but arrest the homeowners, who never left their property.
A few years back a little town just North of me, Crown Point In, was a target of a BLM march.
WTF did Crown Point have to do with Floyde's death?
Farmers and business owners lined the highway, on either side of the march, in the beds of pick ups and sat in lawn chairs.
All had rifles, shot guns pistols and even a few bow and arrows.
The BLM marchers chanted obscenities' at the crowd.
The business owners and farmers were ridiculed on CNN for intimidating the protesters.
"This is why firearms should be outlawed".
Guess what. No one was injured and no businesses were looted.
Contrary to what happened outside my daughters apartment, on Illinois Street, in Chicago.
Ah yes, it's the welfare and the sexual revolution that is causing all these gun deaths. oink oink
Actually it is happening. It's already been happening for a long time. We have weapons that are banned. That's an infringement on the 2nd amendment.
Just more generalities.
Bazookas are banned. Fully automatic weapons are banned. Do you disagree with those? Do they violate the second amendment?
What weapons are being banned?
Access to guns are being expanded on a state level, at least in red states.
In Red States, ‘Gun Reform’ Means Making It Easier To Buy And Carry Guns
So far this year, mass shootings are on the rise. So are laws expanding gun rights. This year, President Biden has worked to expand background checks and asked …
fivethirtyeight.com
The founding fathers wanted boilermaker03 to have an AR-15 so he could hug and kiss it.
Yes, that actaully does violate the 2nd amendment.
As they should be. The whole point is to be able to fight back against a tyrannical government. Much harder to do if only they have automatic weapons.What weapons are being banned?
Access to guns are being expanded on a state level, at least in red states.
In Red States, ‘Gun Reform’ Means Making It Easier To Buy And Carry Guns
So far this year, mass shootings are on the rise. So are laws expanding gun rights. This year, President Biden has worked to expand background checks and asked …fivethirtyeight.com
Quite possibly the most accurate litmus test on stupidity lies in those continually supporting more gun control as though that hasn't went on for decades and actually centuries when race "or" religion wasn't the desired mix. The reason obviously was the ability to control law abiding people which generally is the majority. It is nothing new as there have been millions killed by gun control in other countries. Even in the USA, gun control has resulted in men, women and children killed as soon as they gave up there guns (Meadows Massacre), let alone the many defenseless due to various voluntary reasons at home or abiding by safe place laws.
Many of the dems the rep was speaking to have no individual thought and we could list some absent any thought.. That is just part of the equation when merit is of no consideration and Intersectionality rises to the top for so many. The rep was accurately describing with the dems what Sowell listed in 2007 as the unconstrained view. If only this or that, rather than it being a fallous hypothetical. Relative to your last two sentences...we should ask that when considering the gun related deaths (not blunt weapons) outside of suicide when a person is shot by another on purpose the pistol is much more common than an AK or AR. Knowing that...why so much attacking the AR and not as much the pistol? That answer is found in your last two sentences.
The couple got in trouble because they actually pointed the guns towards the protestors. That is against the law. If the couple did what the gun owners did on Crown Point, IN and held their guns down in a non-threatening manner they would have been fine.Why don't we start by prosecuting, to the fullest extent of the law, those using firearms illegally.
And leave those legal gun owners alone.
Mark and Patricia McCloskey: What really went on in St Louis that day?
A US couple gained instant notoriety for waving guns at protesters. What really happened that day?
Look at one of the pictures and you see a protester, standing with what seems to be a semi automatic rifle in his hands, looking at the home owner, who also has a semi automatic rifle in his hands.
Let the trespassers alone but arrest the homeowners, who never left their property.
A few years back a little town just North of me, Crown Point In, was a target of a BLM march.
WTF did Crown Point have to do with Floyde's death?
Farmers and business owners lined the highway, on either side of the march, in the beds of pick ups and sat in lawn chairs.
All had rifles, shot guns pistols and even a few bow and arrows.
The BLM marchers chanted obscenities' at the crowd.
The business owners and farmers were ridiculed on CNN for intimidating the protesters.
"This is why firearms should be outlawed".
Guess what. No one was injured and no businesses were looted.
Contrary to what happened outside my daughters apartment, on Illinois Street, in Chicago.
This is what a child believes. A bunch of chuds with ARs are going to fight back against tyranny if they don't OD on fent first.
You don't have to be in a militia. That's a lie that gun control advocates push because they know that the 2nd amendment is supposed to be absolute. It plainly states "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed". That segment of the amendment isn't tied to the militia part. They are two separate things.
You're not very good at this. All you can do is call someone a child that you disagree with. You have no points.... ever.
Everyone with a brain knows that armed citizens are much harder to dominate than citizens that aren't armed. That's just a fact of reality. That's why any tyrannical government first confiscated the guns.
Millions killed by gun control because……….they didn’t have guns to protect themselves? Is that your pretzel logic?
You’re saying the reason the AR is getting so much attention is because it would be a more effective weapon for civilians to use against the government when they move to take away all your rights and turn the country into one big communist work camp where we live on sawdust and puddle water? And that’s why it’s the weapon they want to ban?
NOT because it is more accurate, shoots larger and more destructive rounds, has larger magazines, has a much higher muzzle velocity, and is the preferred weapon of mass shooters……..vs a handgun.
There are 6,368 hand gun deaths per year. There are 364 rifle deaths per year. One is too many, but acting like rifles are the problem is laughable. Rifles aren't the problem, mental health is. Rifles are being attacked because people are both ignorant about guns and gun deaths, and they are the best tool to protect vs a tyrannical government.
Yes, the point they were making is that the people need to be able to organize and fight against the government if necessary (have a Militia). The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
It's not saying that you have to be in a Militia. It's saying you have the right to be in one and your ability to own firearms shall not be infringed. The first and second amendments are the only ones that have wording making them absolute because they are the most important.
Despite what dumbass Biden likes to say. Back in the day, people DID have the right to purchase cannons. How do you think they got them on their ships? Stop listening to stupid people.
Large packs of sadistic criminals and thieves are able to systemically rob stores and beat up their customers and workers and leave with armloads of goods with no retribution
Bob, it is a historic fact that millions have been killed when the government took the guns. It is also a very logical thing to do if you want to control things. I'm saying, as does data, that the AR does NOT kill as many people as a pistol. That is another fact. Why the hyperbole while trying to discount actual known facts?
Bob, the AR commonly shoots a .223...very slightly larger than a .22 and much smaller than a 380, 9mm, 40 and 45 and 100s of other guns not only in diameter, but in weight. The AR is many times black where the mini 14 exactly the same .223 round and also semi...is not. Some calibers are faster than the .223 and have more kinetic energy. Quite simply if gun death reduction is desired, the dems are continually barking up the wrong tree as everyone that has spent a any time inquiring knows...it is not the AR, but the pistols that can have mags just as large and just as fast "when a person that desires to violate the law does". The fully auto AR was designed not as a killing machine, but as a wounding machine so that the military would occupy two people...the one shot and the one helping the one shot whereas another caliber would just kill one and the other would still be fighting against the good guys. It was strategic. Many people prefer the speedy .17 instead of the .223 for coyotes and ground hogs...or the 22-250. You see the speed and/or calibers can be found in other guns. This whole scary thing because it was black left decades ago for most...
The AR can be customed more than pistols and can be quite handy should the time come to defend yourself...especially if stress causes you to miss your first several rounds. I want to believe you actually know all this, but for some reason want to choose a losing position. Like you...I too have no idea why you choose the positions you do.
Is there actually anything about you that redeems you for the oxygen you waste on a daily basis?
Hey @BuilderBob6 , figured you were over in Hawaii with your stash of OSB rebuilding housing for people?
I have to give credit to Bob for reminding me of Pretzel Logic from years ago. I like Steely Dan
What millions were killed by what government that took what guns?
30 round mags on a pistol? Yeah, they are out there. I would bet not a lot being used in handgun deaths.
I don’t need a lesson in ARs. I have one, and several other firearms.
My point was, which you always wander from, is that the AR is the weapon of choice for mass shootings for the reasons I mentioned. In addition, the biggest reason is they are now the cool weapon to have and use. The racist asshole in Florida just used one.
The other point was that your theory that the government or media always talks about ARs because that’s the weapon they want to take away………because it’s the weapon they don’t want the people to have to defend themselves when they decide to take away all our rights is pure hyperbolic, paranoid BS. It’s because mass shooters are using that weapon almost exclusively.
And yes, if you take away the AR the crazies will just find another weapon to use. How about we keep all guns out of the hands of the crazies? You people are the ones blaming these shootings on mental illness. How about you stop fighting against any and all efforts to keep the guns out of their hands?
Study after study and poll after poll show the vast majority of Americans, and gun owners, are for reasonable gun control legislation. Why does the right continue to object to them?
Who determines who is crazy? Don't you think some democrats should have the right to protect themselves even if afflicted with neurosis? As I said there are many more deaths by pistols than the AR that I showed as many comparable firearms. Are the massive of deaths by pistols less important than 5 to 10 shot when an AR is used (and there has been mass shooters with pistols) ? Those hundred people killed with a pistol are not near as important as those 8 shot with an AR apparently. Gotta admit I never looked at it that way. Probably should listen to the media for better intel
Doesn't make a lot of sense if gun violence reduction is the goal. Is it? Does, the AK fall into the same thinking? What about a SKS? The AR can be customized quite easy and is the popular choice of many. Maybe the "rifle" gun choice amongst killers is similar to the gun choice of many and that there is a sampling of the population choice that gets the media attention? Here is a secret for you Bob. Most killers choose to use their right hand. Perhaps, we don't allow people that are right handed use guns. Seems to make as much sense. Only left handed non democrats can have guns. I think it is solved...and those pistol deaths...yeah, probably glocks since the population chooses glocks as well (I don't own one). Probably find the pistol deaths are mostly glocks...
Like you, I have no idea why you choose the positions you do.
You people? Wow that is the absolute classic racist reaction to anything. Are you in fact a racist @BuilderBob6 ? The bigger question is why are you afraid to ever reply to me? What about people with mental access that have access to the internet and keyboards? I will leave that up to you to understand who I referring to
yeah, I caught his "You People" and bolded it in his post that I replied. Not sure I can stay much longer for fear of losing some brain cells
Don't tell Bob, but here is a history across the globe...a sampling of humanity in a "longitudinal" study!
Is it on video or just hearsay from the protestors, who were on private property.
Yeah it’s on video. From what remember, the protestors were walking past the couple’s home. They were on their way to the home of some local official or politician or something like that.
If someone else was pointing a gun at them first (which you cannot see because the video doesn't show the entire crowd) then I don't think it's a crime to reciprocate.
I don't know if that's what happened. Just making a statement. I'm willing to be proven wrong here.
What is being missed here is the protesters had firearms with them and they were on private property.
If a crowd of people came walking up to my front porch, armed and with a history of rioting and looting, I'd sure make them aware there would be consequences if they tried pulling their shit with me. Also what is being missed is no one was injured and no businesses or private property were destroyed.
If a crowd of people came walking up to my front porch, armed and with a history of rioting and looting, I'd sure make them aware there would be consequences if they tried pulling their shit with me. Also what is being missed is no one was injured and no businesses or private property were destroyed.
Didn’t they break down the private property gate to get into the property? Not sure if it was there or somewhere else.
None of the protestors aimed a gun at the couple. The couple never said such a thing. They would have said so if the protestors did in fact aimed a gun at then first. No reports at all that the protestors had guns.
You have no proof that the protestors had guns. None of the protestors aimed a gun at the couple. The couple never said such a thing. They would have said so if the protestors did in fact aimed a gun at then first. No reports at all that the protestors had guns.
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