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Manafort to jail

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https://www.justsecurity.org/57863/paul-manafort-evidence-collusion/

Posting this because I've seen a bunch of times from some folks on this board that somehow they've not seen any of the news come out about Russian involvement in the Trump campaign. Paul Manafort may not be a swell guy who is getting caught up in deep state conspiracies. Maybe this link can provide some info that they'll never see on Breitbart or Fox News.

And he just got sent to jail today for witness tampering.
https://apnews.com/ead179c870e7493cae50decf85c102fc?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true
 
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Follow the links in the article, everything is backed up by a source. And it doesn't matter who Ryan Goodman is, Manafort went to jail today because of his proven actions, and there's a whole lot more.
Seems like he laundered a lot of money.
I agree not a good choice for campaign manager.
 
https://www.justsecurity.org/57863/paul-manafort-evidence-collusion/

Posting this because I've seen a bunch of times from some folks on this board that somehow they've not seen any of the news come out about Russian involvement in the Trump campaign. Paul Manafort may not be a swell guy who is getting caught up in deep state conspiracies. Maybe this link can provide some info that they'll never see on Breitbart or Fox News.

And he just got sent to jail today for witness tampering.
https://apnews.com/ead179c870e7493cae50decf85c102fc?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true
You understand the backstory right? Manafort was out on bail trying to fight his indictment, which he had a decent chance of doing prior to this latest act of stupidity on his part. Who knows why he felt the need to try to talk to the Ukrainians again. Well, he did, and now he's been put in the slammer for that, because the government rightly could show he was not acting in a trustworthy way. He undermined his own case by attempting to tamper with witnesses. And BTW, it's been reported he was actually unsuccessful in his attempt.
 
Follow the links in the article, everything is backed up by a source. And it doesn't matter who Ryan Goodman is, Manafort went to jail today because of his proven actions, and there's a whole lot more.
The first part of your last sentence is correct. The second part is pure speculation. Manafort is age 69, and it is now possible he will be put in jail for the rest of his natural life.
 
You understand the backstory right? Manafort was out on bail trying to fight his indictment, which he had a decent chance of doing prior to this latest act of stupidity on his part. Who knows why he felt the need to try to talk to the Ukrainians again. Well, he did, and now he's been put in the slammer for that, because the government rightly could show he was not acting in a trustworthy way. He undermined his own case by attempting to tamper with witnesses. And BTW, it's been reported he was actually unsuccessful in his attempt.
Yeah, the people he talked to didn't want to get indicted themselves.

Go figure.
 
The people he was talking to could get indicted but the chances of there being any consequences are about zero. The US can't extradite people from Ukraine.
Well, he was pretty stupid then, wasn't he? Why try to sway witnesses who will never testify?
 
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You understand the backstory right? Manafort was out on bail trying to fight his indictment, which he had a decent chance of doing prior to this latest act of stupidity on his part. Who knows why he felt the need to try to talk to the Ukrainians again. Well, he did, and now he's been put in the slammer for that, because the government rightly could show he was not acting in a trustworthy way. He undermined his own case by attempting to tamper with witnesses. And BTW, it's been reported he was actually unsuccessful in his attempt.

I understand the backstory quite well, do you? Why was Manafort working for Trump clearing Manafort’s debt with Deripaska? Doesn’t that seem strange and nefarious to you? We have some evidence that we can start connecting the dots, but you can be sure Mueller knows the answer, or is well on his way to confirming the answer. That’s why there will be much more coming.
 
I understand the backstory quite well, do you? Why was Manafort working for Trump clearing Manafort’s debt with Deripaska? Doesn’t that seem strange and nefarious to you? We have some evidence that we can start connecting the dots, but you can be sure Mueller knows the answer, or is well on his way to confirming the answer. That’s why there will be much more coming.
Nice try. Manafort was busted for business dealings YEARS before he joined Trump's campaign. You claim to understand the backstory, yet you ignore this highly important detail?

You so badly want to "connect the dots" and make up a story about Trump when there's truly no there, there. This is all about Manafort and his shady dealings, which he was working on for many, many years.
 
Nice try. Manafort was busted for business dealings YEARS before he joined Trump's campaign. You claim to understand the backstory, yet you ignore this highly important detail?

You so badly want to "connect the dots" and make up a story about Trump when there's truly no there, there. This is all about Manafort and his shady dealings, which he was working on for many, many years.

That was the lowest hanging fruit that Mueller was able to get him on. Why does Manafort working for Trump clear his debt with Deripaska? Can you answer that or at least admit we should know the answer? We know that Manafort, Kushner, and Trump Jr had communication with Russian agents that they had lied about extensively. Sorry, but that part didn’t happen years ago. Manafort’s working for pro-Russian forces didn’t end years ago.
 
That was the lowest hanging fruit that Mueller was able to get him on. Why does Manafort working for Trump clear his debt with Deripaska? Can you answer that or at least admit we should know the answer? We know that Manafort, Kushner, and Trump Jr had communication with Russian agents that they had lied about extensively. Sorry, but that part didn’t happen years ago. Manafort’s working for pro-Russian forces didn’t end years ago.
Maybe you should join Mueller's crack team of hardcore Progressive partisans. And don't tell me that they're not partisan. There isn't a single one of Mueller's lawyers who is an R. Not one.
 
Maybe you should join Mueller's crack team of hardcore Progressive partisans. And don't tell me that they're not partisan. There isn't a single one of Mueller's lawyers who is an R. Not one.

Maybe you should try answering the post instead of changing the subject. You can’t explain Manafort, Kushner, or Trump Jr’s actions. Remember this the next time you think about posting something about a witch hunt or there’s nothing showing Trump/Russia. There’s a ton there. BTW, Mueller is a Republican. He’s just one of the very few currently willing to put country before party.
 
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Maybe you should try answering the post instead of changing the subject. You can’t explain Manafort, Kushner, or Trump Jr’s actions. Remember this the next time you think about posting something about a witch hunt or there’s nothing showing Trump/Russia. There’s a ton there. BTW, Mueller is a Republican. He’s just one of the very few currently willing to put country before party.
Funny, as a part of the Obama Administration, that certainly wasn't the case - putting country before party. Mueller is a RINO.
 
Maybe you should try answering the post instead of changing the subject. You can’t explain Manafort, Kushner, or Trump Jr’s actions. Remember this the next time you think about posting something about a witch hunt or there’s nothing showing Trump/Russia. There’s a ton there. BTW, Mueller is a Republican. He’s just one of the very few currently willing to put country before party.

I don't think Manafort was a good choice based on what has since been found. What did Jr. do that was wrong? Even if he was told before the meeting that there was some dirt on Clinton, so what. They didn't use it if true. The opposition colluded with foreign countries to make stuff up, produce it to liberal judges, tap Trump power and send an FBI spy in the Trump campaign.
What has Kushner done?
 
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Funny, as a part of the Obama Administration, that certainly wasn't the case - putting country before party. Mueller is a RINO.
Man, I was almost proud of you guys for going the whole thread without bringing up Obama or Hillary, but I guess getting through the first 18 posts is progress.
 
Maybe you should try answering the post instead of changing the subject. You can’t explain Manafort, Kushner, or Trump Jr’s actions. Remember this the next time you think about posting something about a witch hunt or there’s nothing showing Trump/Russia. There’s a ton there. BTW, Mueller is a Republican. He’s just one of the very few currently willing to put country before party.

Can you explain Hillary's actions? How about Weiner's actions? Or Huma's? Or that meeting on the tarmac? Or how our guys were slain in Benghazi? And who's actions were the worst?
 
Can you explain Hillary's actions? How about Weiner's actions? Or Huma's? Or that meeting on the tarmac? Or how our guys were slain in Benghazi? And who's actions were the worst?

Working with a hostile country to attack our country is worse, it’s way worse. It’s not even close. Benghazi was investigated exhaustively, all of the Republican investigators found no wrongdoing. None of the Fox News conspiracies were backed up after investigating.
 
Working with a hostile country to attack our country is worse, it’s way worse. It’s not even close. Benghazi was investigated exhaustively, all of the Republican investigators found no wrongdoing. None of the Fox News conspiracies were backed up after investigating.

Obama gave money to Iran. Clinton received money from Russia.
If Trump is found to have taken money from a foreign country, or have given money to aid a foreign country in conflict with us, then he should be punished accordingly. The new accordingly is no punishment.
 
Working with a hostile country to attack our country is worse, it’s way worse. It’s not even close. Benghazi was investigated exhaustively, all of the Republican investigators found no wrongdoing. None of the Fox News conspiracies were backed up after investigating.
Too date....over a year and millions later, there is no evidence Trump worked with the Russians on anything. Nada. Zero. Zip!
 
Your own article says that collusion is not a chargeable offense in US law books. The whole collusion “witch hunt” is a sham built on false pretenses and lies.

Not even sure what you're replying to. It was abundantly clear what I was replying to.

I swear you're a bot sometimes.
 
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Not a bit. That's the difference between liberals and me. I read a lot of stuff I don't like to know what the next move of the liberal leftists will be. I watch CNN to see the supreme of the supreme crazies. They're all so friggin' predictable and so laughable.

"The next move." Christ.
 
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And now Trump tweets today that Russia says they didn’t meddle in the election. It wasn’t meddling it was an attack on our country, that is undeniable. Trump is providing them cover while doing absolutely nothing to prevent further attacks, he’s complicit and the republicans that put party before country and continue to allow it are complicit.
 
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And now Trump tweets today that Russia says they didn’t meddle in the election. It wasn’t meddling it was an attack on our country, that is undeniable. Trump is providing them cover while doing absolutely nothing to prevent further attacks, he’s complicit and the republicans that put party before country and continue to allow it are complicit.
Not a correct take. Russia has been meddling for years, including during and well before the Obama Administration. If Trump is providing cover, then so did did Obama and every other President since Clinton.
 
Not a correct take. Russia has been meddling for years, including during and well before the Obama Administration. If Trump is providing cover, then so did did Obama and every other President since Clinton.
It's matter of degree. Russia wasn't using fake bots or identities on social media in 2012. They weren't electronically targeting the voting process. The interference in 2016 was unlike anything before, by a long shot. To dismiss it because they did it before totally ignores the changes in technology.
 
It's matter of degree. Russia wasn't using fake bots or identities on social media in 2012. They weren't electronically targeting the voting process. The interference in 2016 was unlike anything before, by a long shot. To dismiss it because they did it before totally ignores the changes in technology.
They’ve certainly improved their techniques over time. But people who act like 2016 was the first election the Russians meddled in are not being truthful.
 
They’ve certainly improved their techniques over time. But people who act like 2016 was the first election the Russians meddled in are not being truthful.
I agree......but that's not what people are saying. Trump's own appointed people say it happened and it was more significant and effective than ever before. Trump is ignoring it because it makes it appear as though it diminishes his win.....to the detriment of our future elections.
 
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