Love Carsen

[punaj]

Kid might seem out of control sometimes, but nothing seems to phase him, and he's probably always in more control than we think. A backcourt of him and Nojel might be the best backcourt we've seen at Purdue in decades.

Good interviews by him, coach and others here if you haven't seen them yet.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/post-game-video-purdue-reacts-to-win-over-vermont

 

[boiler-deuce]

He does make those head scratcher plays sometimes. But, the up side is worth those growing pains. I like the kid.

 

[BoiledSteel]

He does make those head scratcher plays sometimes. But, the up side is worth those growing pains. I like the kid.

Completely agree. He is going to be something else for us for the next 3 years.

Painter is putting together a very interesting team going forward. Not the usual type of players one would expect at Purdue it seems.

 

[rgarlitz]

Kid might seem out of control sometimes, but nothing seems to phase him, and he's probably always in more control than we think. A backcourt of him and Nojel might be the best backcourt we've seen at Purdue in decades.

Good interviews by him, coach and others here if you haven't seen them yet.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/post-game-video-purdue-reacts-to-win-over-vermont

That's been my basic take on Carsen at least since Maryland. I'll gladly live with the mistakes and occasional erratic shooting because I love this guy's cool demeanor and tenacity at attacking the rim - especially late in games.

He's a much bigger problem for opposing defenses than is Cline. I wonder if that's actually part of why Cline has been starting - to allow Carsen to be fresh down the stretch.

 

[tjreese]

Kid might seem out of control sometimes, but nothing seems to phase him, and he's probably always in more control than we think. A backcourt of him and Nojel might be the best backcourt we've seen at Purdue in decades.

Good interviews by him, coach and others here if you haven't seen them yet.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/post-game-video-purdue-reacts-to-win-over-vermont

I would think, but sometimes get fooled... that Carsen has not been altered mentally by not starting.

 

[tjreese]

That's been my basic take on Carsen at least since Maryland. I'll gladly live with the mistakes and occasional erratic shooting because I love this guy's cool demeanor and tenacity at attacking the rim - especially late in games.

He's a much bigger problem for opposing defenses than is Cline. I wonder if that's actually part of why Cline has been starting - to allow Carsen to be fresh down the stretch.

There can be a whole lot of reasons for and against...and I don't have the information for either. Certainly "IF" a press were to happen late in the game. What may not be obvious and I have not studied this is the defender on Cline and CArsen. Cline the teams may play tighter knowing he is not as much driver and CArsen can put it on the floor. "IF" tighter" then it might in teh early stages leave one less defender farther away from the ball to jump start the inside game and see how they are going to play the inside people. None of this is to suggest that Cline brings more, but many times there are things taking place that fans are unaware in trying to work an area of the game. WE have a better idea of the start with Ryan perhaps. No matter what....Carsen is an "X" factor in any game...any game...

 

[cprh9u]

Kid might seem out of control sometimes, but nothing seems to phase him, and he's probably always in more control than we think. A backcourt of him and Nojel might be the best backcourt we've seen at Purdue in decades.

Good interviews by him, coach and others here if you haven't seen them yet.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/post-game-video-purdue-reacts-to-win-over-vermont

Definitely excited to see CE and Eastern together.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Kid might seem out of control sometimes, but nothing seems to phase him, and he's probably always in more control than we think. A backcourt of him and Nojel might be the best backcourt we've seen at Purdue in decades.

Good interviews by him, coach and others here if you haven't seen them yet.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/post-game-video-purdue-reacts-to-win-over-vermont

Agree just Mr. Cool. His talents blend well with Dakota and PJT --- and are necessary & needed with those two kind of players at guard.

 

[ChoiceBeef]

I would think, but sometimes get fooled... that Carsen has not been altered mentally by not starting.

That goes back to the thing Painter said about getting guys that have the right mindset. He said he wants guys that don't get over losing easily.

Carsen said, in the Doyle article, that he still plays with a chip on his shoulder because he was demoted to JV as a freshman in high school for 4 games.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Kid might seem out of control sometimes, but nothing seems to phase him, and he's probably always in more control than we think. A backcourt of him and Nojel might be the best backcourt we've seen at Purdue in decades.

Good interviews by him, coach and others here if you haven't seen them yet.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/post-game-video-purdue-reacts-to-win-over-vermont

Great post!

I have to admit that he drives me crazy sometimes with his decision making, but his talent is undeniable and I love that he plays with confidence.

 

[meenie]

Nojel and carsen will be best backcourt since Troy Lewis an Everette Stephens

 

[tjreese]

Nojel and carsen will be best backcourt since Troy Lewis an Everette Stephens

I have no idea how this will work out. Nojel can play a few positions on O and I'm guessing D. I don't have a good feel on his quickness, but if he ends up in a1 or 2 guard situation more commonly thought as a backcourt, then yes. A lot of teams are playing 3 and some 4 guards with the rule emphasis and clock. Let's say this guy will have the ball in his hands and distribute the ball...as well as score and rebound. The very, very few times I watched him I saw some Valentine in him as far as strength, passing, rebounding and getting to the rim. Valentine was more of a 3 I seem to recall. Purdue will love him I'm sure

 

[stilldawg]

That's been my basic take on Carsen at least since Maryland. I'll gladly live with the mistakes and occasional erratic shooting because I love this guy's cool demeanor and tenacity at attacking the rim - especially late in games.

He's a much bigger problem for opposing defenses than is Cline. I wonder if that's actually part of why Cline has been starting - to allow Carsen to be fresh down the stretch.

I wonder if Carsen coming off the bench is intended to let him get a feel for how the game is being played and more importantly being officiated. With his style of play, it is always a good possibility that he will get into foul trouble, as he has several times.

I know he is out of control at times, but the positives outweigh the negatives by a lot. Painter has done a good job of letting him play through the mistakes most of the time.

 

[Heller]

I would think, but sometimes get fooled... that Carsen has not been altered mentally by not starting.

Yes he has. He said at one point that he didn't understand so to not start affects most players and Carsen isn't any different.

 

[Dakota Girl]

Kid might seem out of control sometimes, but nothing seems to phase him, and he's probably always in more control than we think. A backcourt of him and Nojel might be the best backcourt we've seen at Purdue in decades.

Good interviews by him, coach and others here if you haven't seen them yet.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/post-game-video-purdue-reacts-to-win-over-vermont

Every single kid gave thoughtful, reasoned answers to questions that not all young people do well.
Several mentions of the coaching staff encouraging players to just have fun with offense. Don't worry about the last, go make this one. You see the results in VE's second half and PJ's big three at the end.
You also get the sense that there was apprehension resulting from the last two years endings.
Impressive kids!

 

[tjreese]

Yes he has. He said at one point that he didn't understand so to not start affects most players and Carsen isn't any different.

Well, the recent video doesn't indicate that. Still, who knows what lurks in the private mind?

 

[depthcharge623]

Loved when the reporter asked Dakota what happened when Vermont made a couple easy layups. "I didn't get back." That's personal accountability. It seems like all our players have this, which is just such a mature attitude for a young guy.

 

[depthcharge623]

Another thing I noticed:

Every interview I've seen with Carsen before now, he just looked really bored. But this interview he seemed really engaged. I'd like to think that this is because Carsen is a smart guy who thrives on challenges, and this is the biggest one yet.

 

[slidde01]

Nojel and carsen will be best backcourt since Troy Lewis an Everette Stephens

Give me Kramer Lew, and Moore for my money.

 

[Purdue0034]

The thing I have noticed about Carsen is his competitiveness! He seems very competitive and that's what I really like about him. He seems like a great kid who has shown great promise in big moments!

 

[Ben Shadeland]

Kid is crazy talented. I think he's the best of both worlds. He's talented enough to make The League someday, but he's not a one-and-doner, or even a two-and-doner. At the least, I think we have him for three years, and likely four. And if he keeps working and stays humble, he'll be a Boiler legend by the time he's done.

 

[tjreese]

Loved when the reporter asked Dakota what happened when Vermont made a couple easy layups. "I didn't get back." That's personal accountability. It seems like all our players have this, which is just such a mature attitude for a young guy.

Probably focusing on rebounding. One person (PG in a traditional O many times has to be back and apparently Vermont caught them napping.

 

[lbodel]

Kid is crazy talented. I think he's the best of both worlds. He's talented enough to make The League someday, but he's not a one-and-doner, or even a two-and-doner. At the least, I think we have him for three years, and likely four. And if he keeps working and stays humble, he'll be a Boiler legend by the time he's done.

Look forward to watching him over the years. I think people love to start talking about guys leaving early for the NBA (according to some on this board, Swanigan, Edwards and Haas would not be here this season), but Carsen's height will be detrimental for NBA, so I don't think there's much of a chance of leaving early. And if he does, he's either being really dumb or he's kicked some major ass! ha

 

[Ben Shadeland]

Look forward to watching him over the years. I think people love to start talking about guys leaving early for the NBA (according to some on this board, Swanigan, Edwards and Haas would not be here this season), but Carsen's height will be detrimental for NBA, so I don't think there's much of a chance of leaving early. And if he does, he's either being really dumb or he's kicked some major ass! ha

Well, objectively, I think you're right. The one thing that makes me think there's a slight chance of his going is honestly...his confidence. I know he's got a good head on his shoulders, and I really like him. But...he reminds me a little of Javier Baez. Just supremely confident in his own ability. That's 98% a great thing. It allows him to do things that few players can ever do. But there's that two percent that's worrisome. Because you never know how he'll perceive himself, and you don't know who has his ear. Hopefully, he stays free of negative influence.

But I agree with you. He should and likely will be here for four.