Don't matter what ESPN experts think the consensus of GBI board experts is that Zone makes the world go 'round and you can't win a championship without having 3-5 versions in your arsenal....which I almost NEVER do but they were talking to Bomani Jones regarding Syracuse-just before Boeheim came on. When asked what he thought about Cuse not making the tourney he responded that they definitely should not be in...But his reason is what made me laugh out loud...And I quote. "Zone is for cowards!!! No one playing zone should b in the tourney...". Still laughing
Boeheim's record speaks for itself. He's won a national championship playing a "coward's" defense - whatever that means. It's still 5 on 5; it's not like he's cheating by having a 6th defender on the floor. And I'm quite certain the objective is in basketball is to finish the game with your opponent scoring less points than you... which is something Boeheim's teams have done a lot more often than they haven't. To be clear, this post isn't to combat all the people here that love Painter's man-to-man; I couldn't care less what defense he runs. But the proof is in the results with JB, and they are hardly laughable....which I almost NEVER do but they were talking to Bomani Jones regarding Syracuse-just before Boeheim came on. When asked what he thought about Cuse not making the tourney he responded that they definitely should not be in...But his reason is what made me laugh out loud...And I quote. "Zone is for cowards!!! No one playing zone should b in the tourney...". Still laughing
...which I almost NEVER do but they were talking to Bomani Jones regarding Syracuse-just before Boeheim came on. When asked what he thought about Cuse not making the tourney he responded that they definitely should not be in...But his reason is what made me laugh out loud...And I quote. "Zone is for cowards!!! No one playing zone should b in the tourney...". Still laughing
actually the results are there are many more teams that win with man since there are many more teams that play man. However I think a team can win playing anything if they are really good at it...there are just some things that are consistently better. I would never teach Wally Jones to shoot the way he did for the 76ers years ago, but he was effective.
There are many coaches that believe playing a zone also affects your offense. That said, this reminded me of my daughter years ago. She was a freshman or sophomore at a party with Mike Golic (Jr) and struck up quite an interest with. She had no idea who he was at all. She called me and said she met a nice guy at a party and may go out with him. She said he was on the football team and I figured kicker, QB...someone not particularly large, but large enough for her at 5'9" to wear heels and him still be taller...since THAT has been a criteria in the past. She then said he played offensive line...and my paradigm changed and asked her if he was a big guy and she said not particularly heavy for his height. I asked her his name and she said Mike, but didn't know his last name and said she would look him up in the directory. She called me back later and said Golic and I started laughing and told her that was a household name for ND football. Anyway, goes to show you how much attention she paid to sports...but now cheerleading was another thing......which I almost NEVER do but they were talking to Bomani Jones regarding Syracuse-just before Boeheim came on. When asked what he thought about Cuse not making the tourney he responded that they definitely should not be in...But his reason is what made me laugh out loud...And I quote. "Zone is for cowards!!! No one playing zone should b in the tourney...". Still laughing
The most "cowardly" thing about Boeheim and Syracuse is their penchant for playing nearly the entire out of conference schedule at home in the Carrier Dome. Probably has helped them pad their winning stats more than any one other thing.
That's why I think it would be interesting to see a comprehensive list, not just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
True. Zone can be great when run with the correct personnel and worked relentlessly in practice. My guess is that was a former player just trying to have a point of view for the show he was working.
I disagree. Length and ability to cover a lot of ground are very important in most zones and Purdue lacks these attributes. Players like Mathias, Thompson, and even Carsen Edwards are far more suited to man than zone, IMO. Most of the teams listed in this thread, such as Cuse, Louisville, Michigan, and Duke have a lot of long lanky, mobile athletes who adapt well to zone.
Huh. I didn't think you were allowed on a sports show unless you were a player
I didn't think you could be a sports expert without a working knowledge of the intricacies and benefits of implementing 2 to 3 different zone defenses per game.Huh. I didn't think you were allowed on a sports show unless you were a player
Always irked me too. However, when you are in the top 3 for attendance every year, I imagine the AD wants as many home games as possible to help the budget.
You make an excellent point. I for one prefer to run a 1-2-2 full court, off of missed baskets only, which drops into a 1-3-1 run at 3/4 court, 'cause I like good spacing in my defenses, then falling into an Amoeba once the ball is in the low post. I also like to punt on first down.
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As I read through your game plan, I can't help but notice that while rudimentary by comparison, it bares remarkable resemblance to the brilliant strategies of one Coach Thomas Crean.
True, but if you borrow from all teh successful coaches you won't change things up. Consequently, I sought those that nobody wanted to mimic defensely and knew if I put all those together that few would have seen them and be stumped by them. I also learned from RMK in a NCU game where Dakich guarded Jordan. I believed in PC before it was so common. I would always recruit a player from the stands that was a senior that never played anything and would rotate that honor weekly. I would then have that player (when I brought out the white flag for man or surrender) guard the best player for the opposing team. Like Jordan, they too were embarassed and couldn't do anything and sometimes we would pull back in the game. Sometimes teh best player for the other team had a striped shirt and boy did the crowd go crazy when my guy started guarding him tight away from the ball.
I have found it to be exceedingly effective to have the punt returner quick kick thereby flipping the field like never before.
If only we had five players like him, we could face guard each offensive player making it utterly impossible for any player to ever make or receive a pass to a teammate. How could we lose? Even better if we face guard out of a 2-3.
He's not a player. He's a Playa...Huh. I didn't think you were allowed on a sports show unless you were a player
I bet they never see that coming. Unless of course their punt coverage team likes to set up to return their own kick.
Can you tell an angry girlfriend, "Don't hate the playa, hate the game", or will that just make it worse?
I don't know. Why don't you try it out and let me know .? Chris Rock once said, you can't hit a woman, but you sure can shake the sh*t out of em!
Total ball denial by fronting everything out of the 2-3 would totally confuse them and have them scoring for us. A fluid defense would make the offense more fluid and we know fluids seek the least resistance which would be our goal since we would be so tight face guarding them
