Saw his interview. Guy looks jacked. I think we're going to be fine at RB.
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Hopefully King and Horvath will provide the 1-2 punch that we got from our backs last year. We don't need one back to carry the load. Keeping both fresh will help us pound out wins in the 4th quarter.
Then bring back a fresh Tario for the stretch run.
I'm not against this. Might be a way the we ensure we can get 6 weeks of productivity out of him vs. some better opponents.
if King and Horvath are doing well, I doubt Fuller would get much playing time when he heals up, unless there is an injury to King or Horvath
Even if King's blocking isn't quite there yet, creative playcalling and keeping Horvath on the field for passing downs can mitigate some of that. It will probably be a couple games until our opponents start picking up on tendencies, so he'll need to continue to pick up his pass pro quickly so the offense can be multi dimensional when he is on the field.
I’ve got a feeling about King kind of like I did Carsen Edwards. He is going to be good. Better than his 3 star ranking. Edwards came in ranked anywhere from 80-100 depending on service but after watching him you just knew he was better than that and was going to be really good. Now I’m not saying King will have as huge an impact as Boogie, I’m not saying he won’t either, but he is definitely a nice piece to compliment the receivers and tight ends we have down the road. Can’t wait to watch him develop
As long as he can be a serviceable blocker in Pass Protection, he should really help us. We can't have him wiff on a block and get Sindelar crushed by a DE or blitzing LB.
Any picks of him doing squats? Only way to tell if he will be any good
King said they ran a Wing T but they actually were a Flexbone offense. He was a wing back in high school and not a true running back.
His runs basically consisted of
1. pitches to the outside
2. jet sweeps to the outside
3. catching the option pitch from the QB...on the outside
He doesn't have much experience taking hand-offs and running between the tackles.
King has to basically learn to play RB in camp before the first game which doesn't really seem ideal.
He has good potential but I hope that they don't rush him into playing before he is ready. They still have Hewitt and Armour to back up Horvath.
Wing back is probably more similar to slot receiver in Brohm's offense since he utilizes a lot of slot receiver jet sweep running plays.
I think he might actually be quite good as a slot receiver as well so perhaps he could be a backup slot receiver and RB.
Yes...I read the interview.
It's so difficult to talk to a bot that has no original thoughts. He could be both a backup RB and a backup slot receiver. He spent his entire high school career essentially running jet sweeps.
Ahh, ad hominem attacks. Last resort
They didnt bring him in to be a slot receiver. Thats why they recruited Sheffield. Thats why recruited Moore.
As for running the wingback position in highschool, that doesnt preclude him from being a very good back at Purdue. Learning the playbook will be more difficult than learning which gap to hit. Im sure he knows where the 3 hole is.
What do expect as a reply to GTFO? Do you honestly think that isn't an ad hominem attack?
I never said that he would be precluded from being a good back.
Knowing the location of the 3 hole just the bare minimum understanding needed to play. A third grader could tell you as much.
He needs to be able to make predictions of linebacker and safety movements pre-snap, have a sense of where all the players are as he's receiving the handoff and feel the flow of the defense as he's running. It also important to know when to hit a hole at max speed and when to slow down and let your blockers get into position.
Learning the playbook will be much easier than developing vision when he's never played as a conventional RB.
Yes, he's the second string RB but who has he beaten out to get that spot?
The only other person he was competing against was Hewiitt (2A Tennessee guy) who is another true freshman.
I think King has good potential. I like his hip mobility and fast cuts but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
It's pretty reasonable to suggest that King take some jet sweeps since that is his strength.
Im sure they will try to get him plays on the outside. Getting guys with his explosiveness in space is what Brohm's offense is meant to do.
I really dont worry about either him or Horvath or Hewitt having the vision to play the position. The two biggest things that worry me are 1) The lines ability to get a push and 2) the RBs ability to pass block.
if the passing is clicking, the space will be there for the running backs. Other teams can't afford to try and stop the run first, they gotta stop the passing game.
reading the article about the line, I have grave concerns about Sindelar being able to have time to make any passes and king being able to run the ball effectively. . In order for our talented receivers being able to catch the ball, the QB must be in a position to throw it. in order for an y running back to be able to gain yardage, he must have blockers creating holes or blocking for sweeps. Thus my CONSTANT wish to making recruiting offensive lineman a priority rather than what always "appears" to be an afterthought. and making our line a priority over recruiting skill position players.
It's definitely not an afterthought. If you listen to Brohm and Co. enough, they constantly talk about building the lines; winning games on the line; etc. There just aren't many 6'5" 300lb high school seniors that are ready to start that want to come to Purdue...the few that exist will always go to 'Bama, Clemson, Ohio St., etc. Much, much easier to recruit skill players than OL/DL. Have to build the line over time.
The O line is getting some good reps in practice against a better Purdue D line. Give them time, they will keep getting better.
You also have to keep in mind that our coaches are well aware of the situation. There are several things they can and will do to help out the line in the run game, similar things we did last season. Our running game will always have a lot of action and/or misdirection - whether that is pulling guards, running Moore/Sheffield across the formation, using repetitive action out of similar formations, and so on.
Just playing with some numbers:
2018 D rank
Nevada 61
Vanderbilt 63
TCU 40
Brohm offense against D's (2018)
Nothworstern 41 (L)
Boston College 55 (W)
Ohio State 53 (W)
Eastern Michigan 31 (L)
Missouri 52 (L)
nebraska 88 (W)
Illinois 124 (W)
MIchigan State 9 (L)
Iowa 11 (W)
Minnesota 59 (L)
Indiana 81 (W)
Auburn 14 (L)
2018 D rank
Nevada 61
Vanderbilt 63
TCU 40
Brohm offense against D's (2018)
Nothworstern 41 (L)
Boston College 55 (W)
Ohio State 53 (W)
Eastern Michigan 31 (L)
Missouri 52 (L)
nebraska 88 (W)
Illinois 124 (W)
MIchigan State 9 (L)
Iowa 11 (W)
Minnesota 59 (L)
Indiana 81 (W)
Auburn 14 (L)
I've heard this line of reasoning before. my thoughts are if we can compete and beat the likes of Alabama and OSU and MSU for elite players at other positions, we should also be able to compete and beat those schools for offensive linemen as well. A great offensive line is what makes your skill payers look great. Just ask USC QBs. Without their line, they become mediocre.
Wrong. The RB Coach Barclay says that Hewitt has ball security issues and is behind King for sure. He plays on Special Teams right now, if at all. He is more likely to RS than get carries.
Armour is a FB, not a HB. He will not get carries over King. King is not a WR. He is a RB.
He will not play slot WR. Where do you get this from? Could King get carries off tackle? Sure. But he's a RB and was recruited to play RB.
We have slot WRs to play slot WR, such as TJ Sheffield. He's going to be good.
I'd love for this to happen, but it's not looking promising right now. He had a devastating injury to his ligaments.
We are getting better OL in our recruiting - maybe not elite OL, but definitely better than what we got under D-Haze in general. It typically takes OL longer to develop than skill position players.
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