Not totally surprised by it, but sad to see him go.
Good luck Kendall.
Good luck Kendall.
Kendall Transferring
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Feel bad that he is going but it is probably for the best at this point. Hope the separation is amicable.
On to the scholarship math. That leaves us with 9 scholarship players next year and no seniors unless one transfers is. 4 open scholarships for next year. If we don't fill them or fill them with one-year players then we'll have that many 2017 scholarships.
Seems like a lot of players are transferring all over this season. I don't remember ever hearing of so many.
Curious to see who this opens a door for.
We saw this coming for almost two months. Best of luck to Kendall, whether he plays elsewhere or not for his final season of eligibility. It's too bad that he didn't develop more of an all-around game with toughness and confidence included during his time as a Boiler.
With that stated, this is the scholarship situation now:
1. Basil Smotherman (RS Jr.)
2. Dakota Mathias (Jr.)
3. Vince Edwards (Jr.)
4. Isaac Haas (Jr.)
5. P.J. Thompson (Jr.)
6. Jacquil Taylor (RS So.)
7. Ryan Cline (So.)
8. Caleb "Biggie" Swanigan (So.)
9. Carsen Edwards (Fr.)
10. open
11. open
12. open
13. open
With that stated, this is the scholarship situation now:
1. Basil Smotherman (RS Jr.)
2. Dakota Mathias (Jr.)
3. Vince Edwards (Jr.)
4. Isaac Haas (Jr.)
5. P.J. Thompson (Jr.)
6. Jacquil Taylor (RS So.)
7. Ryan Cline (So.)
8. Caleb "Biggie" Swanigan (So.)
9. Carsen Edwards (Fr.)
10. open
11. open
12. open
13. open
Per the release it sounds like they are allowing him to explore options but leaving the door open for him to return if he wants.
I guess since he's a senior, and we have that many open, it's ok. I would not hold his scholarship otherwise.
Sad to see Kendall go. We wish him well. He has a lot of potential. Hope he finds a place that he loves and can gain confidence.
Here's what I've seen so far.
Have been hoping there's still a place on the team for KS and that he comes back better and stronger than ever.....whatever the case, wish him well in his future endeavors.
http://www.hammerandrails.com/2016/3/31/11339912/kendall-stephens-transfer-purdue
Have been hoping there's still a place on the team for KS and that he comes back better and stronger than ever.....whatever the case, wish him well in his future endeavors.
http://www.hammerandrails.com/2016/3/31/11339912/kendall-stephens-transfer-purdue
Right. I think they are doing him a favor by leaving that door open but given our numbers it doesn't seem like a big deal to give him a couple weeks or so to sort it out. If it helps preserve the relationship with that family then it is worth it.
Has he graduated or would he have to sit out a year with the transfer?
That could be but how many transfers have you ever heard where they are allowed to look around but retain the option to come back? Weird. It's kind of like when someone decommits and says they are still considering the school they are decommitting from. Rarely do they end up at that school. Like I said, I'd bet that is just a diplomatic move on Purdue's end that we can afford given our scholarship situation.
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After further reflection, in '17 we need a 2, 3, 4, and 5 pretty badly LOL. Katy bar the door. We shall see the direction the program is heading based on the strengths/weaknesses in that class .... or earlier when we see who we are putting the major pressure on.
need a 3 and a 4 so badly it hurts .... probably two, one each year. Boy would Jankovit change the look of this.
After further reflection, in '17 we need a 2, 3, 4, and 5 pretty badly LOL. Katy bar the door. We shall see the direction the program is heading based on the strengths/weaknesses in that class .... or earlier when we see who we are putting the major pressure on.
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Not many that I can recall off the top of my head......but this situation also has some rather unique circumstances. I tend to agree that in some way this does reflect well on CMP (even discounting from the fact that there is currently not an immediate scholarship crunch). In the end, whether KS returns or not.....I expect that CMP was up-front with him about playing time and his opportunity.....like him or not, or whether you agree or disagree with the methods or how he measures it, CMP makes everyone earn their minutes from what I see.
On the de-commit analogy, yes it's rare.....only one I can think of recently is James Blackmon, Jr. with Indiana.
I think the up-frontness that another thread mentioned about CMP telling Bane that he wouldm't offer him until he found out what Kendall was doing is another example of an honest recruiting manner. All I ever want from anyone to be upfront. Tell me the deal and let me decide what to do with it. I see stupid promises being made by certain other coaches ... ones we tend to discuss ad infinitum on this board.
If true, I'm glad to hear it. I really hope that Stephens' career can end on a positive note, whether at Purdue or elsewhere.
I want him to stay. Make this your best season. Compete your ass off. Make yourself and Mathias and Cline a 3 headed monster. Seriously. You can do this. Btfu! BTFU!
Mathias will most defiantly start. I'm guessing we will see the following
5 Haas
4 Swanigan
3 Edwards
2 Mathias
1 C Edwards
I know the grass is always greener but he'd be better off here playing next year and working to show he can compete than transferring and losing another year. I know of very few that pulled this last year transfer with the year sitting out that flourished in the new system.
Maybe sometime in the middle of the season. PJ will start to begin with... it's his job to lose.
With KS leaving.....And the chance of Biggie going ( though he should not and probably will not ) but there is always a chance.....We need to sign somebody and not put all of our eggs in the 2017 class...As long as MP has been here ...He has not put a fence around northern Indiana in the recruiting world....And expecting to get graduate transfers year after year....Id much rather have a guy more than 1 year....Either way .....Good luck to KS in his future basketball ...where every he may end up
Well technically he's a 4 star now, but I don't disagree with your point.
I think it's a very classy move by Painter to allow this but it also limits our ability to fill that spot. With 4 openings we probably weren't any way. But I'm open to 2 5th year guys coming in now for sure. We need it for the depth if nothing else.
I deeply hope Vince is the "new" Vinnie from the last couple of games and that Carson is a lot better than I think he will be as a freshman PG. That's a very tough position to fill. Defensively, this lineup is a bit scary, but I'm not sure incredible D is still needed. On the other hand, I have no clue who is going to spend those extra hour sin the gym this summer .... or who we might get as a grad transfer.
So that leaves Cline, PJ, an unknown Smotherman, and a virtually unknown Taylor .... mystery is a fun thing.
I'm completely against allowing him to shop around and then return if he can't find a better offer. You're either in or out. No in between. This is probably being done out of respect for the Boiler legacy family.
If he returns at this point, it will be awkward at best.
If he returns at this point, it will be awkward at best.
yes, but perhaps that doesn't limit his choices? perhaps he wants to bank as many as possible...minus one?
Well, Matt can't be accused of Creaning...with a straight face...
Yep. You are correct sir. I do see him getting good minutes between the three and four backups.
If you don't forsee Mathias or Ryan Cline being a regular starter at the 2, Vince Edwards would be a better option there than Smotherman right now. Maybe Basil has greatly improved in his RS year, but going off of past data and viewing experience, Vince is the better choice right now. Really any of Carsen Edwards, P.J. Thompson, DM, RC, or VE are possibilities at that spot. There's room for other backcourt additions as well.
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Recruiting, keeping and developing PG's has been a huge weakness in the CMP era. Hopefully that starts to turn around with Edwards next year but I don't honestly know how much better a freshman Edwards will be vs. a junior PJ, if any better at all.
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