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Jay Bilas comment on Purdue

Sep 22, 2016
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"Purdue is still the best team in the Big Ten, but Maryland is right there"

Verbatum from Bilas, post game of the Ohio State-Maryland game.

***edit: Jay Williams, not Bilas.
 
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Look at how close all the games have been that Purdue has lost this year. With the exception of the Louisville game Purdue could easily be a one loss team.

Execution at the end of the game has been atrocious. Just like the last two tournament losses. This has to be improved upon
 
Look at how close all the games have been that Purdue has lost this year. With the exception of the Louisville game Purdue could easily be a one loss team.

Execution at the end of the game has been atrocious. Just like the last two tournament losses. This has to be improved upon
And i think that goes back to the fact that painter is pretty awful at drawing up plays at the end of games.
 
The real issue is, why are those games close at the end? Why do we still have a habit of playing terrible defense against some of the lesser competition? Every loss, with the exception of Louisville, we look totally confused on the defensive end. Then at the end of the game we rely on feeding Biggie, who promptly turns the ball over. When during the whole game we've been able to lead, or regain a lead, running our normal offense, and still playing terrible defense. Is it coaching, preparation, or players thinking they will our score some of the lesser competition?
 
The real issue is, why are those games close at the end? Why do we still have a habit of playing terrible defense against some of the lesser competition? Every loss, with the exception of Louisville, we look totally confused on the defensive end. Then at the end of the game we rely on feeding Biggie, who promptly turns the ball over. When during the whole game we've been able to lead, or regain a lead, running our normal offense, and still playing terrible defense. Is it coaching, preparation, or players thinking they will our score some of the lesser competition?

It's coaching and preparation moreso than execution. Going into this season, most of us here expected this to be a better offensive team but a worse defensive team. That's exactly what has happened. The thing that hasn't changed though, is that Painter hasn't done much of anything different defensively with this personnel even though it's CRYSTAL CLEAR that this team isn't suited to be very effective in man-to-man defense (i.e. against average or better competition and teams with quicker guards that might be similarly skilled or better). We have guards of average foot-speed (Mathias, Cline, Thompson, Albrecht) and bigs (Haas, Swanigan) chasing players around all of the time because CMP's still playing the same defense with a different personnel.
 
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I would agree with all that but... this is showing up against Nebraska, Iowa and Illinois. We make average players look like All-Americans. At the same time, we can make All-Americans look average. I'm not sold it's that we don't have the players to defend. Keady had plenty of players that weren't quick, but on effort and intensity alone, could defend against any team.
 
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Uh it's a combination and I'm not sure what the answer is other than preparation and end of game execution. Got to start mixing the defense up , simply put for whatever reason it's not working.

Personally I do think it's personal as this is a very slow team with the exception of CE. He has the capability to defend if Painter can get him to. I honestly don't think Swanigan or Haas will ever be great defenders without racking up fouls.

They just shoot up and over our bigs and PJ. I was concerned going in over not having a shot blocker/rim protector. I did NOT anticipate the perimeter defense was going to be this bad.

Honestly though as good as the offense is, there's no reason for all these losses coming down to the last 2 minutes execution

I'm not a coach and this is purely internet speculation obviously. Just expressing my opinion (there's issues don't say there's not to the smart asses)
 
It's coaching and preparation moreso than execution. Going into this season, most of us here expected this to be a better offensive team but a worse defensive team. That's exactly what has happened. The thing that hasn't changed though, is that Painter hasn't done much of anything different defensively with this personnel even though it's CRYSTAL CLEAR that this team isn't suited to be very effective in man-to-man defense (i.e. against average or better competition and teams with quicker guards that might be similarly skilled or better). We have guards of average foot-speed (Mathias, Cline, Thompson, Albrecht) and bigs (Haas, Swanigan) chasing players around all of the time because CMP's still playing the same defense with a different personnel.
If we have shown we can play good man to man......which we have......but then have poor performances against lesser teams, how is that not an execution problem? It would be different if are consistently bad in man to man. Not the case. Good one game, bad the next. Same defense, different result. Match ups are certainly part of it.
This is on the coach according to you because that's your agenda. Why I'm responding to you is my only question.
 
I tend to lean toward the problem primarily and almost totally being in execution.
That being said, I do see somewhat of a coaching (or recruiting) issue in that it has not / can not be solved and that it's repetitive particularly against seemingly lessre teams.
 
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Can be a third time disappointment in the first round again or obviously a semi strong run tourney time. To me I can see this team making a really strong run in the B10 tourney. Last year I was hoping for a spot in the final and we did get a big break with path to championship. I also had no strong thoughts whatsoever of winning against State and exactly what I thought being close game and just being competitive. Can they win 3 games in a row with consistency is obviously the question. I would not be surprised at all to get to the final and expectations of getting there and winning would be greater than last season. Roll in the Big10 tourney and get mindset can go 3 games deep in march madness.
 
I would agree with all that but... this is showing up against Nebraska, Iowa and Illinois. We make average players look like All-Americans. At the same time, we can make All-Americans look average. I'm not sold it's that we don't have the players to defend. Keady had plenty of players that weren't quick, but on effort and intensity alone, could defend against any team.

difference is back then you could play somewhat physical on D... in today's pathetic college game, you cant even breath on an offensive player... so playing man to man defense with bad defenders/athletes is even HARDER to do.

There is 0 reason to not atleast TRY zone defense out for atleast stretches. It is bad coaching that we have not and continue to not do so
 
Putting your players in position to be successful is good coaching no matter what that might be. Isolating a player who isn't strong at scoring over players over and over is ignorant or wishful thinking to think that player will all of a sudden develope consistant results.
I'm sure someone on here has a stat line of Biggie when he turns over. Is it when he is in post isolation or in normal motion.
 
It's coaching and preparation moreso than execution. Going into this season, most of us here expected this to be a better offensive team but a worse defensive team. That's exactly what has happened. The thing that hasn't changed though, is that Painter hasn't done much of anything different defensively with this personnel even though it's CRYSTAL CLEAR that this team isn't suited to be very effective in man-to-man defense (i.e. against average or better competition and teams with quicker guards that might be similarly skilled or better). We have guards of average foot-speed (Mathias, Cline, Thompson, Albrecht) and bigs (Haas, Swanigan) chasing players around all of the time because CMP's still playing the same defense with a different personnel.
o_OI have decided that zone would solve all the problems if we used it only against bad teams like Nebraska and Iowa. We must stick with man against good teams like Notre Dame or Villanova. What other explanation could there be? It's not as if teams ever have the problem of losing focus and intensity and therefore playing down to the competition, especially in road games.:confused:
It is CRYSTAL CLEAR.
 
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