i say one more year....despite the lack of a recruiting class next year. Hard to fire a guy whom has won 2-4 big ten titles and is reigning big ten coach of year. Especially with the injuries he's dealt with
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Firing both football and basketball in the same school year....tough call. I think injuries give him another year, but I think Glass probably has to extend his contract too for recruiting purposes...that should make all the IU fans happy haha
I don't think they will have to fire him. I think after the season Glass and Crean will negotiate a buyout and he will effectively resign and take another job at a school like Missouri or a less pressure school like that. The Carmel job just came open so maybe he will take that.
The fans may want him gone but I do not believe that Glass will pull the trigger. Glass extended Crean. To be forced to fire the FB and the BB coach in the same year spells bad management and chaos in Glass' department. As I have posted previously, I do not think that Glass wants to present that picture to the world.
Firing him after this season that could be "blamed" on injuries does not send much of a vote of confidence to potential new hires either. If they are that quick to pull the trigger, maybe I don't want to be there ... I know, money talks, but if they're looking for a really good one, he'll have options ... and money offers.
I think Carmel is absolutely full of itself, it's not my favorite place, and it's over-rated with huge egos....but even at that I wouldn't wish Crean on them.
Crean isn't going anywhere this year unless Crean wants to leave on his own. That's not me saying it, but it's coming from within the IU Athletic Office by someone who knows. He's going to be given next year to right the ship because he has three years left on the Fred Glass extension and if it works out, Fred can always give him the extension a year later.
If he fails again next year, then all bets are off. And Crean isn't going to leave on his own because he's never going to get the money he's hosed IU out of.
So, my IU brethren are stuck with the Two Tone Trippin' Tan Man for at least....at least....one more year. Belly up to the bar Hoosier fans....ya' still got him so drink up. The rest of the league is laughing at what was one a proud and storied program.
What is funny is the reaction of the IU fanbase. They used to point out that TC's skill as a coach was that he developed Wade as a player. Now the claim seems to be that Wade was going to be great anyway and thus Crean has only minor credit for his development. This is Newspeak right out of "1984."
Arcb.....They said Davis was a great coach. They said Sampson was a great coach. They said Crean was going to win more titles than Bob Knight. I said just the opposite every time. Cheatin' Kelvin was the best coach, but he was dishonest. Davis was the second best coach, but he had no place at IU or anywhere close to the caliber of IU. Crean was on the verge of being ran out of Marquette when IU bailed him out. They deserve what they got.
Homer in the Iliad tells us that "...those that the gods would destroy first they make mad." IU fans refuse to recognize that the glory days are long gone. It maddens them to the point that reality is rejected.
RMK was successful because he had a system where he could focus on a few Midwestern states and get players who would develop over 4 years in a cohesive feamework. Early NBA entry destroyed thst. Even Duke, an academically serious place (supposedly) has gone for the 1-year rental. Kentucky has simply perfected adaptation. IU as a member of the B1G is at a disadvantage to academic lightweights in the SEC.
RMK was successful because he had a system where he could focus on a few Midwestern states and get players who would develop over 4 years in a cohesive feamework. Early NBA entry destroyed thst. Even Duke, an academically serious place (supposedly) has gone for the 1-year rental. Kentucky has simply perfected adaptation. IU as a member of the B1G is at a disadvantage to academic lightweights in the SEC.
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So you are saying IU should pull out of the B1G and move to the SEC?
Indy, you are inferring something that I have not implied, but I believe that you know that.
One of the most important lessons that I learned was hammered home in a course entitled "The Evolution of Proteins." The lesson was environment is always evolving. At one time, a large part of Indiana was under a glacier but obviously is not now. Successful organisms are those whose evolution is in concert with their environment while unsuccessful, i.e. endangered or extinct, organisms are those whose evolution is dissonant. Tyrannasaurus Rex was kickass until the world got cold for him as a cold-blooded animal.
The evolution of college basketball has been away from the four-year player to favoring the one and done. Certain historically strong programs have adapted well to this (UK, Duke, KU) while others (Georgetown, IU, UCLA) have not. Stanford had a up and coming program but now has trailed off. The B1G and the PAC12 have lost dominance at the Championship level because they are among the strongest academic conferences involving research universities.
IU has tried to compete against the trend. As I have stated before, I cannot recall another university that graduates everybody in three years with the frequency that they do. The idea that HS students getting advanced credit is not unique to IU yet somehow it works there but nowhere else is puzzling to me. M$U has been best at playing a losing game but I suspect that it is finally catching up to them.
What I do think is that IU fans have failed to recognize the evolution and thus have expectations not warranted by the facts on the ground. That does not mean that Crean is a bad coach, personally I think that he is mediocre. But the expectation that a deus ex machina coach is going to come in and bring back the glory days is unwarranted. That is the fallacy that they hold true.
I am guessing the the underground fanbase has already switched their allegiance to either Butler or ND. For some of the Hoosier faithful, they no longer have to reverse their jackets.
Just got back from a trip on Al Gore's invention to DeLoosierVille. Learned a lot. Billie Donovan is going to get paid $7M to leave OKC for IU. Brad Stevens is never going to build a good enough team in Boston to overtake the flying LeBron's and will sign with IU because the cost of living in Bloomington is so much more attractive than living in Boston. Crean is coaching Missouri next year, no wait, he's coaching NC State. There may even be a possibility that the ghost of John Wooden is going to be running the show for the Loosiers next year. Had to leave before I choked on my drink and my loud chuckling could be heard over the internet thing.
And....they don't want Alford because they're afraid Knight might come back and screw their mothers again. Yet Alford has been to the NCAA's as a player and a coach, he's won a National title, Olympic gold, Pan-Am games, was an All-American, and he never dances on the sidelines.
And, they now have their most intelligent poster Laffy, aka Laughman, and aka now as Vegas Hoosier screaming about how Alford protected Pierre Pierce. Let's see...Courtsense, Laffy/Vegas, and IU Scott....such brilliance.
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Crean to NCSU? Have friends there who think it could happenhttp://www.si.com/college-basketbal...mark-gottfried-fired-tom-crean-gregg-marshall
They must be back together for the Peaches and Herb Festival.
Or just maybe they are reenacting "Hands Across the Trailer Park".
They must be back together for the Peaches and Herb Festival.
Or just maybe they are reenacting "Hands Across the Trailer Park".
Valentine's Day with the Three Amigo's
They must be back together for the Peaches and Herb Festival.
Or just maybe they are reenacting "Hands Across the Trailer Park".
Well,the novel 1984 is the best selling book in America right now.It may look bad for the Hoosiers to fire both the football and basketball coach in the same year,but Fred only paid Kevin Wilson 500,000 to get rid of him.From a financial view,Glass could afford to can Crean.
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