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Is this true - The first move of Coach_Walters . . .

I would think there is always going to be some "cleaning" house as a means to set a new tone while removing known problems and free up headcount.
 
Kind of reminds me a Haz when he told a recruit " I'll only be at Purdue 4 years". Kid decommits and goes to ND.....WTF.
 
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If that was true, then Walters did a mini Sanders type of thing. Sanders cleaned Colorado out by a much bigger amount
 
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Of course he came in and purged a bunch of players. Only one was a guy who'd have helped, so whatever.
 
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Of course he came in and purged a bunch of players. Only one was a guy who'd have helped, so whatever.
Yeah, I remember that. Pretty normal for a new coach. We actually discussed it on here, and I think most of those players wound up at much smaller schools.
 
Yes, Walters did clean house a bit. Were some mistakes made in doing so? Probably. I saw the tweet you're talking about, it was from former linebacker Ben Kreul. Good special teams guy under Brohm.

Any new coach, especially in the current portal world, is going to want to bring his own guys in. Walters may have not done that very tactfully, I don't know. But it's becoming par for the course these days.
 
No, his first move was to name his vaunted defense, The Air Raid Defense!!
Good Lord!!!!
I think it was Air Strike.

Little did we know it was our scoreboard that would end up getting struck.

The hullabaloo around the “nickname” ended pretty quickly when it turned out the Defense was awful.
 
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I think the issue was how he did it - basically walked in and said “get lost”.
Pretty arrogant way to make it happen.
I mean, why would he handle it any differently than how he handed everything else here. Worked so well for him!
 
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Yes, Walters did clean house a bit. Were some mistakes made in doing so? Probably. I saw the tweet you're talking about, it was from former linebacker Ben Kreul. Good special teams guy under Brohm.

Any new coach, especially in the current portal world, is going to want to bring his own guys in. Walters may have not done that very tactfully, I don't know. But it's becoming par for the course these days.

Certainly this happens, and it's understandable to a point. Your mention about "tactfully" is one of the points of contention with what I understood Ben Kreul communicated. According to reports - not much eye contact or expression of appreciation. But that's over and done now.....hopefully Ryan Walters learns from the mistakes, good luck to him and his family. And good luck to Purdue in its coaching search and moving the program forward......a daunting task right now......not insurmountable, but there is work to be done on all fronts.
 
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Thanks for the responses!

Yeah, that's kind of what I expected the situation was. It would be difficult to come in as a new coach and try to 'make space' for the players you want. I guess that's where diplomacy has to exercised, but it still would leave wounds on those that had made Purdue their home.

I didn't want to mention Ben's name (didn't hide it too well), since I know him to be a very fine young man!
 
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Thanks for the responses!

Yeah, that's kind of what I expected the situation was. It would be difficult to come in as a new coach and try to 'make space' for the players you want. I guess that's where diplomacy has to exercised, but it still would leave wounds on those that had made Purdue their home.

I didn't want to mention Ben's name (didn't hide it too well), since I know him to be a very fine young man!
The NCAA rules allow this for new head coaches, which then obviously leads to mass portal exodus with coaching changes. Not sure how this looks with the new roster limits/revenue sharing etc.
 
Thanks for the responses!

Yeah, that's kind of what I expected the situation was. It would be difficult to come in as a new coach and try to 'make space' for the players you want. I guess that's where diplomacy has to exercised, but it still would leave wounds on those that had made Purdue their home.

I didn't want to mention Ben's name (didn't hide it too well), since I know him to be a very fine young man!
always thought Ben and to a lesser degree D. Moon would be a contributors for us esp since considering what we've has at the LB position
 
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always thought Ben and to a lesser degree D. Moon would be a contributors for us esp since considering what we've has at the LB position
But they didn’t have SEC size and speed!

lol

Do we think Walters ever realized we weren’t in the SEC?
 
I think it was Air Strike.

Little did we know it was our scoreboard that would end up getting struck.

The hullabaloo around the “nickname” ended pretty quickly when it turned out the Defense was awful.
Your right. You can see what an impact it made on me as a avid Purdue Fan.
I hope that before Walters get his next job,that the title "Minister of Defense " has already been used by someone much more impactful than he.....
What did you think of his exit interview Tom D.??
 
Your right. You can see what an impact it made on me as a avid Purdue Fan.
I hope that before Walters get his next job,that the title "Minister of Defense " has already been used by someone much more impactful than he.....
What did you think of his exit interview Tom D.??
I’m not an On3 member but I got the cliff notes from one. More of the same from him. Everything was I didn’t do well BUT…then some out of touch excuse.

I really think he had been sheltered in his career from criticism or control. Just a rah rah guy. I think he genuinely didn’t know what he was seeing week in and week out so he didn’t know what to do to fix it. That’s why you saw 24 games of a bad defense and a bad scheme. I don’t think he’s a bad person. I just think he’s a guy who never really had to experience real adversity in coaching so when he came across it he folded like a cheap tent.

The NIL stuff wasn’t shocking. We know we suck at it. Will probably be news to most though. That said, he blames a lot on NIL where it doesn’t matter if you pay your team $5 or $5million…if you can’t execute the basics you’re going to be bad.

He was a poor judge of talent. Put it to even poorer use. Just really a big ol confluence of fail.

I think I’m most upset that he should have known what he was getting into NIL wise…to harp on it so much and for him to use it to no avail in 2024…it just rings as a hollow excuse. We could have been 5-7 this year with the talent we did have, with minimal changes. With a good coach, maybe flip a game to go 6-6.

Even with a tough schedule 1-11 was inexcusable and the outcome here was correct.
 
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I’m not an On3 member but I got the cliff notes from one. More of the same from him. Everything was I didn’t do well BUT…then some out of touch excuse.

I really think he had been sheltered in his career from criticism or control. Just a rah rah guy. I think he genuinely didn’t know what he was seeing week in and week out so he didn’t know what to do to fix it.
Agreed, he listed three or four things that he should have done before accepting the head coaching position at Purdue.....His personal failures before taking the job only manifested when he became the head coach. Is it any wonder that we ever won a game.......Wowzer!!
 
Agreed, he listed three or four things that he should have done before accepting the head coaching position at Purdue.....His personal failures before taking the job only manifested when he became the head coach. Is it any wonder that we ever won a game.......Wowzer!!
Added more to the last post but didn’t share anything we haven’t discussed.

The guys not a leader.

He’s not a good coach.

He’s not a good leader of players.

He’s not a good leader of staff.

I feel he’ll be hard pressed to get a coordinator job in the next 5-7 years. Might even need to be a QA type for awhile and actually learn.

If you were a coach that torched his defense and team this year…what would YOU hire him for?
 
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Added more to the last post but didn’t share anything we haven’t discussed.

The guys not a leader.

He’s not a good coach.

He’s not a good leader of players.

He’s not a good leader of staff.

I feel he’ll be hard pressed to get a coordinator job in the next 5-7 years. Might even need to be a QA type for awhile and actually learn.

If you were a coach that torched his defense and team this year…what would YOU hire him for?
Agreed and No way!
 
I’m not an On3 member but I got the cliff notes from one. More of the same from him. Everything was I didn’t do well BUT…then some out of touch excuse.

I really think he had been sheltered in his career from criticism or control. Just a rah rah guy. I think he genuinely didn’t know what he was seeing week in and week out so he didn’t know what to do to fix it. That’s why you saw 24 games of a bad defense and a bad scheme. I don’t think he’s a bad person. I just think he’s a guy who never really had to experience real adversity in coaching so when he came across it he folded like a cheap tent.

The NIL stuff wasn’t shocking. We know we suck at it. Will probably be news to most though. That said, he blames a lot on NIL where it doesn’t matter if you pay your team $5 or $5million…if you can’t execute the basics you’re going to be bad.

He was a poor judge of talent. Put it to even poorer use. Just really a big ol confluence of fail.

I think I’m most upset that he should have known what he was getting into NIL wise…to harp on it so much and for him to use it to no avail in 2024…it just rings as a hollow excuse. We could have been 5-7 this year with the talent we did have, with minimal changes. With a good coach, maybe flip a game to go 6-6.

Even with a tough schedule 1-11 was inexcusable and the outcome here was correct.
The NIL collective had $400k in it when he was hired. That shit is totally insane and probably explains why we were offering him the job in the first place. Any reasonable candidate laughed at Bobinksi. Hell Walters probably shouldn’t even have accepted the job lol
 
The NIL collective had $400k in it when he was hired. That shit is totally insane and probably explains why we were offering him the job in the first place. Any reasonable candidate laughed at Bobinksi. Hell Walters probably shouldn’t even have accepted the job lol
Agreed.

But we don’t have donors. Like at all. Not sure why we feel that changes.

The only thing changing is revenue sharing where we can hand players $. That levels the playing field for us over G5, and probably over the BIG12 and ACC to an extent
 
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