In your own words, finish this sentence...
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I'll give a few of my own. Can't just choose one, ya know!
A) because Piscataway, NJ is where refs go to lose their minds.
B) because...wait, that was basketball?
C) because of the cracked-out, jackass fans.
D) Steve Pikiell's face.
E) because Jersey Mike's Arena is Satan's favorite vacation residence, and I don't like Satan.
A) because Piscataway, NJ is where refs go to lose their minds.
B) because...wait, that was basketball?
C) because of the cracked-out, jackass fans.
D) Steve Pikiell's face.
E) because Jersey Mike's Arena is Satan's favorite vacation residence, and I don't like Satan.
Other than because they’re good at beating Purdue, no reason. Well-coached, unselfish players who make it difficult on opponents. I respect their program a lot.
It's hard not to like them if you are a true fan of the sport. They bring it in their own way and it works for them. They will evolve just like every them does. Over the last few years, including today, they scare the shit out of me.
Because we couldn't beat them in NJ? Other than that - their program is solid. I like Steve Pikiell and they are kind of a mirror of us - play really hard, physical and the sum is better than their parts because of coaching.
Oh.... and they should bring me some Jersey Mike's...
Oh.... and they should bring me some Jersey Mike's...
Yeah, Rutgers under Pikiell reminds me of those Dick Bennett Wisconsin teams from the late 90s. They were tough, hard-nosed, defensive teams that had limited fire power but could muck up more talented opponents. Purdue had problems with those teams, too.
Yes, hard nosed defensive much like the Gene Keady teams.
But see the dislike of them beating Purdue and for sure in NJ.
They have been giving much better Purdue teams all they can handle. But now, they are starting to get highly rated recruits, which should make them tougher to beat. And, the whole east coast fan base is irritating.
Next year will be terrifying if we play there. Fortunately, those two recruits are only there for next year.
They are one of several teams that set the B1G back and make for ugly basketball. Foul as often as possible and dare the refs to call them all. I personally hate that style of basketball and wish there was less of it in our conference.
Purdue won a lot of games that way under Keady.
But in today's higher scoring basketball it is hard to watch.
Yes, 20 years ago it was a different game. Unfortunately someone forgot to tell the B1G it isn't still the 90's.
their program does not have a winning history but still get more athletic player than Purdue does.
Yeah, but great recruits doesn't necessarily translate into instant success. Ask Indiana.
Keady's teams were hard nosed, yes, but Rutgers plays a more rough, aggressive form of bball that has no historical counterpart with any Purdue team I've ever seen.
As rgarliz pointed out, a comp to Bennett's teams at Wisconsin is closer to the truth. Pikiell is the new Dick Bennett. Not fair to lump Mean Gene in with those two clowns, IMO.
it's ugly basketball.
But it's what they can do to win games. Hard-nosed, defensive, in your face. If they had more playmakers they could be good. Think Houston without the offensive firepower.
one thing I like about him as a coach, if one style of D isn't working try another or as he did today switching different types of D
….that they cheat by playing a wizard to boost their scoring. This isn’t quidditch after all.
But, seriously, I have nothing against Rutgers basketball, now that I don’t have to watch McCahey’s dramatic over-reactions to every call. Pickel has a little Gene Keady in him with the way that he gets his teams to compete.
yeah it's ugly and physical but our players know that, how about embracing playing against that style. Today TKR, Furst, and Gillis had 3 freakin rebounds combined and they out rebounded us by 15, that's extra possessions.
Rutgers took 19 more shots than us. NINETEEN! Some of that is turnovers and the fact that we got to the line a lot, but still.
They know they can't beat you straight up, so they doing everything except actually play basketball. They pray Omoruyi gets called for 1 out of every 5 fouls he commits and run the shot clock down to 0 to limit possessions and shorten the game. Then they play you really tough before hypocritically complaining about calls like Omoruyi was doing multiple times today, flopping like Mulcahy did last year, and doing whatever you call it where they basically hit Thompson to draw flagrant in the 2020 game. Their offense is basically just iso and take some incredibly bad shot, probably a midrange two, that's exactly what you want them to shoot, but it somehow goes in way more than it should, especially with less than 30 seconds left.
I respect it because that's exactly what I would do if I were a massive underdog to this team. Pikiell was doing great work, but now I feel like you've got to question what's going on there. They've got 4 senior starters but have 0 offensive identity. They had 2 really good pieces in Spencer/Mulcahy that didn't want to continue playing for them and are going all in on some five stars, but those guys will maybe put them on the bubble then be gone a year later.
I respect it because that's exactly what I would do if I were a massive underdog to this team. Pikiell was doing great work, but now I feel like you've got to question what's going on there. They've got 4 senior starters but have 0 offensive identity. They had 2 really good pieces in Spencer/Mulcahy that didn't want to continue playing for them and are going all in on some five stars, but those guys will maybe put them on the bubble then be gone a year later.
F) because we already have ugly, drag you through the mud "basketball" with %$#@$&*$ wisc.
They shove on every rebound.....the fans overreact to every call and it influences the refs...the 10 second call was quick....the jones over and back was ridiculous....the edey and 1 travel was stunning....it's not basketball at the rac...it's rugby on steroids and you can't get into any rhythm when you play there....bet you half their team will be in foul trouble at mackey and it will be a beatdown...
While it was frustrating and a good talking point for Painter to use to motivate, I do think some of the rebounding issues were caused by uncalled shoves and over the back and also because some of those Rutgers bricks came off the rim so hard that it was a detriment to be in good rebounding position. 😂
so it's the first time we got out rebounded this year, so after 21 games we never ran into the issue pointed out?
I mean, yeah, it could be. There’s a first time for everything. The bigger point was that this was an outlier. First of all, Furst only played 2 minutes so him not racking up boards isn’t really surprising. So that leaves 3 of the 32 team rebounds to TKR(2) and Gillis (1). Well, who are they on the floor with most of the time? Zach who had 12, Jones with 10 and Smith with 6. The fact that the shortest guy on the court and another guard had half the team’s rebounds could be an indicator that a lot of rebounds weren’t in the post. Again, not sure it’s anything that fans need to be getting their panties in a bunch over. If it starts happening consistently, then there’s a problem. My guess is we’ll out rebound Northwestern handily on Wednesday.
I don't have a concern about the rebounding based upon this game. I'm also unsure how many rebounds happened outside of a few feet of the rim, but it wasn't something I focused on (location). I just thought there was a lot of shoving inside and they had some guards a bit taller than Purdue crashing the boards as well. If you are playing Purdue you are aware of their rebounding and that is and will be the rest of the year an emphasis for the opposition. Matt has always wanted his guards to rebound.
It's the East Coast playground players. We'll never want their attitudes... it is what it is. We're in the top ranking more than any other team using mostly Indiana players.
that is true. But there is more to basketball than rebounding, although I always coached to rebound ... but one must be able to score after a rebound... or one loses.
I watched again and lost count, but the first 3 rebounds each for Braden and Lance were deep in the lane. Early Rutgers seemed to only send one rebounder on perimeter shots. Guessing they were concerned about setting their D based upon not shooting well and not wanting Purdue to get out in transition. Later that changed as they started sending more to the boards. I watched the 10 second call twice (12+minutes left in game). The first count I had was 7 and the next was 8. I was trying hard not to go too slow and so it seemed like another bad call. I watched a few times Ethan's foul on the 3 ball. In the spirit of the rules I understand how it could be called. Hiatt kicked his legs out to sell it and Ethan did touch his left shoulder on the way up and so even though Hiatt was wanting a foul, Ethan gave him the opportunity to bail him out. That said, Fletcher may have got the benefit of a foul on his 3 ball as well.
If anyone watches again, watch the D alignment when Potter runs off stagger screens towards the corner where he buries it. You know when you see a screen or screens that the offensive player wants to head towards them as that will be the first option for the cutter coming off a screen for the defender defending him. Rather than Ethan being between his man and the basket I would like Ethan to be up higher so you don't get rubbed enough to slow you down as you go over the top...playing between harry potter and the screens awaiting him with your head on a bobble to not get beat going to the basket where the defender on the trigger man is to not allow a pass to head towards the basket as well. That way you can meet him enough to stay with him instead of trailing. Course today, they sometimes call it tight on the perimeter and depending on meeting the offensive player it might be a foul. We have seen Braden play the screens that way and a bit less Lance and so maybe it just depends on who they are defending when they venture out a bit differently?
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