I wanted to get away from the other threads about IH and just see if anyone had any more info about him being hurt or not? I'm not on twitter and wondered if anything new had come out. It seems strange that CMP mentioned if very briefly but nothing more was said or followed up on? I hope he is okay. We can't afford for him to miss time or be limited.
IH Hurt??
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CMP said tonight on his radio show that he "hurt his tailbone". Did not practice today either.
Also, some old guy called in and said our close losses this year and in the tournament the last two years were painters fault basically. I was wondering if it was somebody from this board .
Reguardless hurt or not(doesn't sound serious)..........ya suck it up and play, especially in crunch time. Sure he wanted to play.....was just probably a coaching call!
It sounds like Painter's making an excuse to explain why he didn't have Haas in at all late in the game.
It has to be a conspiracy I tell you! You guys have the hate real bad. Who assassinated Pres. Kennedy?
Basically said "yeah, when you lose it's the coaches fault." Also pointed out that the guy was pulling 5 games out a 90 game sample size to make a point.
I'm guessing he got dinged up just in the Neb game (maybe on the takedown play even Morris couldn't believe no foul call), and wasn't too serious as he did come back in breifly at the end.
judging by his dad's comments, an injury didn't seem to be a concern going into the Neb game
hope to see him in the next!
judging by his dad's comments, an injury didn't seem to be a concern going into the Neb game
hope to see him in the next!
I am an old guy but it was not me! However I do agree on the losses in tournament!
Wow, the agenda from you painter haters has never been more on display than in this thread. I mean the level to which you all live through a sports program you feel self-entitled to is a psychologist level of disturbing. First we have Painter making excuses, now we have you being a doctor and telling a player what he can and can't play through.
You all may not be as abrasive as kesselschmeck, but you all certainly are on his level of ridiculousness. I truly believe that you all shook a magic 8 ball one day and asked it whether Painter would eve make a Final Four , saw the answer and that is your source for the notion that he will never make one. Based on the ridiculousness displayed in this thread by you and the others, that can be the only answer.
One thing is for certain, there is no way anyone can take any of you seriously anymore. I used to be okay and even align with some of the points your group made, but you all have hit rock bottom. And between you and kesselmeck that leaves those of us in the majority right in the middle of your nonsense with both entities thoroughly embarrassing the university and the fanbase.
Sounds like you are trying to blame somebody when you have no freakin clue about the circumstances.
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Having spent a couple of moments in my life around this crazy game we all love, I would be shocked if there were not a LOT of people that blamed a coach for a loss. Blaming coaches is as American as ordering fries with that burger. When a survey was conducted on education years ago the majority of people thought that k-12 education was in trouble and not doing a good job, but that same population thought their school was just fine. Perhaps the losses were allowed by decisions Matt made, but nobody should ever be surprised that another thinks the coach is to blame.
I guess the caller didn't realize we were 90-5 over our last 95 games.
Relax Bob, all that we have on here is speculation. Hence nage saying "Sounds like".
The fact that Haas was in at the very end guarding the guy throwing the ball in tells me he wasn't too hurt.
Does Matt have "ANY" history of offering injuries as a reason for a loss? I can't recall any, but I certainly could be wrong
Not to my knowledge but he certainly had a valid, ready made one when Hummel went down in Minny.
Now my Dad is an old fart college bball fan, he was not the call in guy....but is representative of some of the old guard. My dad is in his 80's and since he is retired he watches ALOT of basketball. Game on he is watching, no matter the teams. He has watched Purdue basketball since before I was born.
He is of the opinion Painter is slipping as a coach. He said while Painter used to win close games. But he says this year and last, Painter has lost more close games than he has won. He says Painter this year and last has lost more games under 6 or in OT than he has won. He did say 3 years ago that wasn't the case.
While I do not have the time or inclination to check his facts, I will have to admit, he has been right a time or two.
He is of the opinion Painter is slipping as a coach. He said while Painter used to win close games. But he says this year and last, Painter has lost more close games than he has won. He says Painter this year and last has lost more games under 6 or in OT than he has won. He did say 3 years ago that wasn't the case.
While I do not have the time or inclination to check his facts, I will have to admit, he has been right a time or two.
In all honesty, I think in those final moments of a game that is close is where a coach can actually make a difference in the game. It doesn't really matter in the first half if he draws up an awesome in-bounds play at the 14 minute mark (unless it is a run-stopping 3 obviously). I think CMP tends to struggle in those final moments of games and that is probably his most glaring weakness as a coach right now. I think he has done a much better job of handling in game substitution patterns and allow guys who are playing well to stay in a bit longer (in the past we have seen a guy hit two straight threes and then suddenly he is sat for 2-3 minutes of game clock).
It just so happens that CMP's glaring weakness comes out more than other coaches weaknesses. Rarely does a Purdue team get blown out in the first halves of games which says that CMP is able to put together a good game plan...but I still think he struggles with in game adjustments and end of game situations.
I like CMP as the coach of Purdue but he does leave a lot to be desired in a HC for a program that should be competing at a much higher level over the last two-three years than has been shown.
Good coaches win close games... Look at our losses, most are 5 points or less. In the tourney, most games are going to be close, hence our success.
seems like this year Haas is flopping to the floor alot to draw attention from the refs to him getting fouled, sometimes it works but can lead to getting injured.
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I think that sentiment is shared by a lot of fans of many teams. Obviously there could be truth in it. However, as captain of the ship it would appear to me that rather than focusing on a “few” plays either good or bad, the composite of the team over many plays in a game and many games are much more indicative than a much smaller set of data. Stepping out for a second into testing for effects, the main effects have a larger degrees of freedom than particular interactions making it hard to determine significance either for or against due to sample size in interactions. Essentially, more data is always found in the main effects than interactions unless a LOT of main effects are pooled into the error term. Going back to basketball specifically I wonder if the team makeup was different and the coaching was unchanged…would a player more capable of finishing on his own rather than receiving a pass could provide a different result? Perhaps when the games are close and it is down to a play or two, the players are more important than the X and O’s drawn that probably work about as well as all the other strategies in this game that has a life of its own? Sometimes a close game is a function of tempo and style and sometimes it is great coaching to keep it close. Like the chicken and egg debate…this too will have members on both sides.
The only game that Purdue has not really been in was Louisville. Personally, I think Iowa had too much focus on Jok and was a problem. Minny seemed to be rolling the dice and coming up short in that Mason had a great game coupled with lacking of full effort and the athletes of Minnesota. Villanova is beatable…have no issues playing them again. Nebraska, right after MSU game that was huge…two refs I have never seen in my life that made horrible calls, fundamental breakdowns and less that full physical exertion. If Biggie doesn’t travel…this discussion might happen later. If Biggie doesn’t make a bad foul earlier, perhaps he doesn’t give up a bucket to the 6’11” guy? If Vince doesn’t throw the ball at the feet perhaps a three ball is made? So many things players can do that could create a different result. So many ways that if players execute the result is different.
Me, I would rather focus on the 90+% of the game. I think the decision to allow the up and down game too long and not going to the real strength of the team was worth many more points than a few points the game ended up being. That I can blame on the staff, the others I would point to players.
The thing that gets me. CMP has been criticized for being too honest, I've never seen or heard something That was a lie to cover up anything. Most say he's too honest to a fault. But with an agenda and after a loss, CMP made up the IH injury to cover his a€>. I get it now.
I'm not buying it...........CMP most likely paid Baird to circulate this falsehood to cover his *ss
Yeah - it will all come out on Wikileaks eventually.
Probably from when he was damn near murdered and tackled to the floor by nebraska with no call. If you want to bitch about cmp, why doesn't he defend his players? Keady would have thrown the jacket and combover on that one. Every game we watch extreme non-basketball contact go completely uncalled against haas. I mean extreme! If haas played like the other teams play against him, the entire other team would be hospitalized.
Who says Painter didn't say anything? Just because you didn't see it on TV doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Whatever he does is not effective because it continues play to play, game to game. There's not a player in the country that gets the contact haas gets.
Which is probably more on the officials not knowing how to correctly call fouls in regards to someone of Haas' size. And since the officiating crew is essentially new every game, it will always be an issue out of CMP's control.
Or maybe then CMP should fly every official to an offsite meeting and explain it to them all at once. Then if it continues to happen, an argument can be made that what he is doing isn't working. Until then it's baseless speculation.
Or force them to go to the monitors? Every time haas sneezes on someone they go to the monitors. Why can't we request it.
one offseason it was reported he did send in a haas/foul highlight tape to the league and ncaa, pointing out the inaccurate calls
