How attractive is the Purdue job right now?

[rgarlitz]

I'm trying to look at this objectively.

The TV revenue should provide for attractive salaries, even with the Walters buyout. On the other hand, can Bobinski line up enough NIL commitment to attract top candidates?

And how will candidates look at B1G membership? On the one hand, Purdue's a part of the wealthiest league in college sports. But, Purdue's also sitting at the very bottom of a tougher, expanded B1G. At first glance next year's schedule looks more manageable. Still, up-and-coming coaches might see more upward mobility in the ACC or BXII.

The fact that Indiana's coming off a historic season could also complicate the search, unless Cignetti does us all a solid and jumps at a bigger gig.

 

[pubill]

I'm trying to look at this objectively.

The TV revenue should provide for attractive salaries, even with the Walters buyout. On the other hand, can Bobinski line up enough NIL commitment to attract top candidates?

And how will candidates look at B1G membership? On the one hand, Purdue's a part of the wealthiest league in college sports. But, Purdue's also sitting at the very bottom of a tougher, expanded B1G. At first glance next year's schedule looks more manageable. Still, up-and-coming coaches might see more upward mobility in the ACC or BXII.

The fact that Indiana's coming off a historic season could also complicate the search, unless Cignetti does us all a solid and jumps at a bigger gig.

They just gave a big time contract extension

 

[Beorik]

I'm trying to look at this objectively.

The TV revenue should provide for attractive salaries, even with the Walters buyout. On the other hand, can Bobinski line up enough NIL commitment to attract top candidates?

And how will candidates look at B1G membership? On the one hand, Purdue's a part of the wealthiest league in college sports. But, Purdue's also sitting at the very bottom of a tougher, expanded B1G. At first glance next year's schedule looks more manageable. Still, up-and-coming coaches might see more upward mobility in the ACC or BXII.

The fact that Indiana's coming off a historic season could also complicate the search, unless Cignetti does us all a solid and jumps at a bigger gig.

It’s not attractive at all. All we can do is write a huge check and promise all the resources in the world. If we pay enough, $8 mil+ per year then there should be some good coaches that want to prove they can build a good team in the big ten.

The hardest part imo is showing a serious about success coach that we will get serious about football money for NIL.

 

[rgarlitz]

It’s not attractive at all. All we can do is write a huge check and promise all the resources in the world. If we pay enough, $8 mil+ per year then there should be some good coaches that want to prove they can build a good team in the big ten.

The hardest part imo is showing a serious about success coach that we will get serious about football money for NIL.

That's what I keep coming back to. Athletics budget and NIL are two separate revenue streams. Both matter a great deal. Purdue should be fine with the first. The second remains a question.

Hopefully Bobinski has already spoken with key donors and lined up NIL commitments for the next coach.

 

[Quix0te]

Still, up-and-coming coaches might see more upward mobility in the ACC or BXII.

This is where we need to focus. In 2024 and thereafter, Purdue will be getting $50-60 million more in TV revenue than ACC or BXII schools. They pay football coaches $2-4 million/yr and we need to flat-out pay what it takes to get a good one. Just ignore this self-defeating chatter about "more upward mobility" in the ACC or Big XII. If you talk about doubling or tripling someone's salary, they will listen up.

Ghost of Fat Jack mentioned that Purdue has spent $115 million on stadium renovations in recent years. For what? Just imagine if half that money went to bringing in top-notch coaches. We need to pour millions into this next hire and turn this train wreck around.

 

[Beorik]

That's what I keep coming back to. Athletics budget and NIL are two separate revenue streams. Both matter a great deal. Purdue should be fine with the first. The second remains a question.

Hopefully Bobinski has already spoken with key donors and lined up NIL commitments for the next coach.

Exactly. Part of getting a good coach will involve putting them in a room with donors who can convince them they will pony up.

 

[typeviic]

The silver lining is that it cant get worse. A complete rebuild allows for the new HC to be awarded some growing pains going forward.

 

[BBG]

The silver lining is that it cant get worse. A complete rebuild allows for the new HC to be awarded some growing pains going forward.

And likely will take a couple years with the crater we are in.

 

[typeviic]

And likely will take a couple years with the crater we are in.

Yeah, and now is the textbook time to schedule "easy" non-conf games, if that's possible

 

[Middawg]

Of all Big Ten and SEC schools, Purdue is definitely ahead of Miss. St.

 

[PaBoiler78]

The silver lining is that it cant get worse. A complete rebuild allows for the new HC to be awarded some growing pains going forward.

Silverfield, Silverfield, Silverfield

 

[Wolegib]

I keep looking at all the projected improvements still scheduled for our stadium and other athletic facilities. Is our future projected revenue still attached to these projects? Or will they be placed on hold and the money be redirected to pay increased coaching and NIL costs?

It’s a tough question and decision. Going forward, what will be Purdue’s top financial priority? Facility improvements? Or coaching and NIL?

An even tougher question will be can Purdue back out of its contractual agreements it already made for its facilities? It’s one thing to buy out a coaching staff. But can Purdue back out of a construction plan it already engaged in?

I ask because I look at the Tampa Bay Baseball team. Sure it would be nice for them to spend money to attract better players. But right now, they must spend as much money as they can to fix their stadium. They have already agreed to play their games next year at a AAA stadium. Their stadium repairs take precedence.

Back to Purdue. I know they were planning a lot of facility upgrades. I don’t know the contractual status of those planned projects. And what takes precedence? Facility upgrades? Or a winning football team?

 

[msfboiler3]

Silverfield, Silverfield, Silverfield

That would be a home run hire imo. How realistic? I have no idea.

 

[boomfizzle79]

It’s not attractive at all. All we can do is write a huge check and promise all the resources in the world. If we pay enough, $8 mil+ per year then there should be some good coaches that want to prove they can build a good team in the big ten.

The hardest part imo is showing a serious about success coach that we will get serious about football money for NIL.

There's zero chance we're ponying up $8mil per year for a coach right now

 

[boilermaker75]

Yeah, and now is the textbook time to schedule "easy" non-conf games, if that's possible

Do an IU and pay teams currently on the schedule to unscheduled.

 

[bonefish1]

It’s not attractive at all. All we can do is write a huge check and promise all the resources in the world. If we pay enough, $8 mil+ per year then there should be some good coaches that want to prove they can build a good team in the big ten.

The hardest part imo is showing a serious about success coach that we will get serious about football money for NIL.

Can the univ or ath dept contribute to the NIL or does it all have to come from private donors?

 

[bonefish1]

Exactly. Part of getting a good coach will involve putting them in a room with donors who can convince them they will pony up.

Put the new HC on the Purdue jet with the top 50 athletic donors, fly them all to Hawaii (all paid for by Purdue) for 3 days of "meetings" and secure the funds needed to be competitive in NIL.

 

[bonefish1]

Yeah, and now is the textbook time to schedule "easy" non-conf games, if that's possible

I'm not kidding when I say they need to adopt the iu formula and buyout of a couple of the non-con games (ND, etc) to avoid likely disheartening drubbings. Fill them in with a few cupcakes and starting putting some W's on the board.

 

[motkaboo]

Yeah, and now is the textbook time to schedule "easy" non-conf games, if that's possible

The schedules are already set thru the 2028 season.

 

[PaBoiler78]

That would be a home run hire imo. How realistic? I have no idea.

he makes 2.45 M/yr., sell him on Purdue,

 

[bonefish1]

The schedules are already set thru the 2028 season.

You can buyout of games. iu bought out the L'ville game this year.

 

[bonefish1]

There's zero chance we're ponying up $8mil per year for a coach right now

why not? If Nick Saban or Urban Meyer said they'd come coach Purdue for $10M, you bet your ass we're paying $10M.

 

[rgarlitz]

This is where we need to focus. In 2024 and thereafter, Purdue will be getting $50-60 million more in TV revenue than ACC or BXII schools. They pay football coaches $2-4 million/yr and we need to flat-out pay what it takes to get a good one. Just ignore this self-defeating chatter about "more upward mobility" in the ACC or Big XII. If you talk about doubling or tripling someone's salary, they will listen up.

Ghost of Fat Jack mentioned that Purdue has spent $115 million on stadium renovations in recent years. For what? Just imagine if half that money went to bringing in top-notch coaches. We need to pour millions into this next hire and turn this train wreck around.

I get where you're coming from, but it's more than just what Purdue can pay a coach and his staff. Purdue isn't going to attract anyone without NIL comitments.

 

[bonefish1]

I get where you're coming from, but it's more than just what Purdue can pay a coach and his staff. Purdue isn't going to attract anyone without NIL comitments.

What do you mean "more than what Purdue can pay a coach'? Are you the CFO of the Ath Dept?

How can a doormat program like iu pay a coach $9M?

 

[New Pal Boiler]

What do you mean "more than what Purdue can pay a coach'? Are you the CFO of the Ath Dept?

How can a doormat program like iu pay a coach $9M?

He’s saying it’s not JUST coaching salaries. Good candidates with options will also be factoring in NIL commitment.

 

[bonefish1]

He’s saying it’s not JUST coaching salaries. Good candidates with options will also be factoring in NIL commitment.

I'm still waiting for someone here who claims Purdue "can't afford" or "won't pay $X amount" to explain to me how a perennial doormat program like iu magically decides they're committed to football for the long term and ponies up $9M?

 

[typeviic]

I'm still waiting for someone here who claims Purdue "can't afford" or "won't pay $X amount" to explain to me how a perennial doormat program like iu magically decides they're committed to football for the long term and ponies up $9M?

Strange, isn't it. Maybe they got money from that iu grad Oligarch Mark Cuban. Does Purdue have a friendly Oligarch?

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I'm still waiting for someone here who claims Purdue "can't afford" or "won't pay $X amount" to explain to me how a perennial doormat program like iu magically decides they're committed to football for the long term and ponies up $9M?

That isn’t what he was saying. We can go offer Urban $10 million a year plus $10 million in assistant coach salaries and he’ll still want to know how much money he has to pay players.

 

[Quix0te]

And what takes precedence? Facility upgrades? Or a winning football team?

This is our darkest hour. The two all-time worst losses ever in the same season, both to in-state rivals. We need to pour millions of dollars into finding a messiah who will take us to the Promised Land, someone who not only wins but knows how to work the portal and recruit.

 

[Wolegib]

I'm still waiting for someone here who claims Purdue "can't afford" or "won't pay $X amount" to explain to me how a perennial doormat program like iu magically decides they're committed to football for the long term and ponies up $9M?

One of the factors is how much of the athletic department budget is dedicated to other sports, activities and facilities. Purdue has spent a lot of money upgrading its facilities. And it has asked a lot of its reliable donors to donate their money to those facilities rather than to a new coaching hire or NIL.

After asking those donors to donate their money to facilities and make construction plans, do you just throw those plans out and go back to those donors and say, We ‘d rather use your money to buy out our coach and hire a new one and give your money to that and Nil instead?

There was an unbiased article that reflected revenue each school generated last year. IU generated a lot more revenue from athletics than Purdue did last year. They used that revenue to hire a coach and his assistants. Does IU have any planned facility upgrades planned for the near future? I don’t know. What I do know is facility upgrades are never cheap.

Do you want to put the facility upgrades on hold to bring in a new coach and pay out more NIL money? A tougher question. Can you actually place those facility upgrades on hold? And how much future revenue has already been earmarked for facility upgrades that cannot be diverted?

I recently bought a house. My car was totaled. I had a choice. To continue living in my house. Or to sell my house and buy a brand new shiny car! I decided to keep living in my house and buy these used car I could find for the money I could afford to spend. I bought a 2017 Toyota Highlander with 160,000 miles on it. It’s not the car I wanted, but it was a great value and what I could afford.

So does Purdue go out and buy a shiny and expensive new coach? Or do they go out and buy the coach they can afford and still be able to pay their other expenses. ?

It’s one thing to have desires. It’s another thing to work within a budget.