Hopes for a good season are gone!
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A few plays away from a good season. Players are doing what they can, while we are disappointed, lets support the team.
IU fan here with my 2 cents.
Full disclosure, a friend of mine (Michigan fan) and I bet a 6 pack on predicting all the BIG teams final record. I had Purdue winning 3 games and IU winning 5.
I am very impressed with what Brohm and his staff have accomplished so far. I think talent for your starters is BIG level, but you get to the next group of guys and it is MAC level talent.
If I were a Purdue fan I would be encouraged by the start this staff has had. I think you can get to 5 wins this year, which would be a terrific first year for Brohm.
Your D is MUCH better than I expected but your offense has been a lot more inconsistent than I anticipated.
Full disclosure, a friend of mine (Michigan fan) and I bet a 6 pack on predicting all the BIG teams final record. I had Purdue winning 3 games and IU winning 5.
I am very impressed with what Brohm and his staff have accomplished so far. I think talent for your starters is BIG level, but you get to the next group of guys and it is MAC level talent.
If I were a Purdue fan I would be encouraged by the start this staff has had. I think you can get to 5 wins this year, which would be a terrific first year for Brohm.
Your D is MUCH better than I expected but your offense has been a lot more inconsistent than I anticipated.
Oh I can't agree more. Just think we are happy because losses are close games. Purdue fans are mostly relieved not to see the team get wiped all over the field like being used as a windshield wiper. We're like oh we just lost by 14?? I just can't believe we are now sitting on a season where we most likely have a 1 big ten win season again. Iowa and Northwestern are probably losses, also away games. IU is probably a loss. Their offense is 10 times better and will simply outscore Purdue's. That leaves Illinois. Is it too much to ask for a home win against Illinois? Can the team and this coach at least give us the dignity of a 2 big ten win season this year something we haven't had during or since Hazel a single time.
Can JB dot one of these "i's" (Illinois, Iowa, or Indiana)? All I ask as a Purdue fan is a win to dot one of these i's. Illinois is our best shot at a win to break this devastating Hazel curse of not being able to ink a 2 win big ten season.
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I'm sorry, but this post is based on a ridiculous straw man. I can't speak for all Purdue fans (neither can you), but no one who posts here has expressed satisfaction with these past two losses. Not ONE! Sure, many of us saw signs of progress against Louisville, Michigan, and Wisconsin, but it's a complete misrepresentation of this forum to claim that anybody is happy with where the team is at.
As for the rest of the season, how about we let the team play 'em before we pronounce them disasters?
In other words, our fans are not "settling." I like it. Show the passion. Go Purdue.
Good summary and the Hoosiers were surprising against Maryland because the IU defense was solid until the Terps game for the most part.I don't think anybody thought it would be a shootout.Except for OSU and PSU,most Big Ten offenses this year have been average or less.If Purdue had receivers as good as IUS,I think they would have at least two more wins.I always enjoy reading what Hoosier fans like you think.
C'mon man don't be an asshole. The guy came here to have a rational conversation, there is no need for your post.
Remember what Coach Lombardi said "The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling,but in rising again after you fall
We've lost our heads. We are having a fine season given how low Burke allowed the program to fall. Brohm has made wonderful progress in a short time. And he has done it with the few players who were left behind. We need to get a clue!
Anyone expecting a big season with this roster needs put the kool aid down.
This was not a big ten roster. Give Brohm time.
This was not a big ten roster. Give Brohm time.
Purdue has my support, but in the last 2 games coaching must improve as well. We should have our 4th win for sure and possibly our 5th as well. In both cases, coaching was a large part of the mistake variables. Say all we want about players, but coaching needs to excel in crunch time. Not using our top RB's every play when we needed the 1st down nor going for it on 4th down mystifies me if you want to win. Hey, anyone ever think of using the No play call to get NB to jump offsides? We had timeouts. Get them to jump then go deep like Aaron Rodger's is a play that should be on every O.C. and Head Coaches mind in crunch time when needing the win. We'd have gotten the 1st down regardless and game over.
Using prevent defense with no pressure is dumbfounding. Pressure was making the QB errant in previous series throughout the game. Our whole season to this point was an aggressive defense, then we go prevent. It has been stated and seen many times before, prevent defense prevents you from winning. That last defensive stand was another piece of evidence that cannot be accepted by the coaches or fans. Win the game with pressure or go down in flames trying. I can accept the latter much better if we got burned trying to get after the QB and a screen popped us. Coaches found a way to snatch defeat from victory. That is inexcusable.
Using prevent defense with no pressure is dumbfounding. Pressure was making the QB errant in previous series throughout the game. Our whole season to this point was an aggressive defense, then we go prevent. It has been stated and seen many times before, prevent defense prevents you from winning. That last defensive stand was another piece of evidence that cannot be accepted by the coaches or fans. Win the game with pressure or go down in flames trying. I can accept the latter much better if we got burned trying to get after the QB and a screen popped us. Coaches found a way to snatch defeat from victory. That is inexcusable.
Maybe JB and staff are over thinking things....but with all of the limitations that we have as a team come on dude.
I'm trying to be nice. Limitations are only in the mind of those using excuses. Coach CJB and Holt would likely agree with that statement. If they honestly graded themselves out on their play calling in the final 2 to 3 minutes in 4th Qtr., then they failed. They are experienced and paid very well to make those calls in crunch time.
The Nebraska game was and should have been more of a win than the week before at Rutgers which was winnable. If you want fans in the seats, close out those winnable games with a W.
I will be at the I.U. game and expect that we'll get the Bucket back. Not easy and I.U. has been playing right on par with us. Do the little things right to make the big things happen.
The Nebraska game was and should have been more of a win than the week before at Rutgers which was winnable. If you want fans in the seats, close out those winnable games with a W.
I will be at the I.U. game and expect that we'll get the Bucket back. Not easy and I.U. has been playing right on par with us. Do the little things right to make the big things happen.
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Wow. Talk about being greedy. A whole bunch of you would've said that a slight improvement was all that you needed before the season began, since this was Brohm's first year. Now the same bunch is disappointed that we are not invincible. Considering the roster, I am rather content. Am I happy with our record? Heck no. But it's still an improvement, and I will find a solace in that. Beggars can't be choosers, and let's be honest, we were the real beggars before Brohm's hiring. Get back to reality, people. I'm not saying to be content being a loser. I'm saying to acknowledge that winning takes time.
Not here to argue my point or be contentious. Yes, I was excited after the first few games, then reality sets in. I also see the last two games as winnable if the coaches called plays to the teams strengths vs. dialing up QB runs and/or prevent defenses. Go for the wins at this point vs. playing the statistical game. Statistical game of punting at the end is when our team has superior talent. I'll agree with everyone, we don't have Superior talent throughout the starters & two deeps. Gamble a bit and go against the grain this year. I personally believe we'd have found two more wins doing that. Just my opinion...
My only thought in this. I am super glad your a fan in the stands and not the coach on our sideline.
The "statistical game" means doing the thing with the highest probability of winning at the end of the day. So how is that different than "go for the wins"? If Brohm passes at the end of the game and a WR drops it (quite likely), the crying over his play-calling would be the same. So other than simply being more aggressive, what should CJB have done?
Last offensive series: Use 3 plays to D.J. Knox and 1 play to Markell Jones with Richie Worship as lead blocker to the TE side. We get a 1st down OR when it was 4th and 3 yrds with 2 TO's left how about a No Play to get NEB to jump offsides? Automatic 1st down...while offsides, chuck the ball long to any receiver close to open possible game changing play. Regardless, new set of downs and game is over as NEB had no timeouts. BTW, we went to Hopkins only once during the game for 20+ yards, how about a one time TE dump for 5-7 yards? I know it kills the clock if missed, but they wouldn't expect it either on play action. Joe Tiller would not have hesitated to pull that trigger to seal the win. I shouldn't equate coach to coach, but CJB needs to gamble a bit at crunch time. It feels good if it goes well. If not, accept it and shoulder the responsibility "100% My Call". I'd respect and understand that as well.
Never get stuffed up the gut Worship for 1 yrd, then use your QB as a designed run play for 2-3 yrds, and hope for DJ Knox touch to get the 1st and only touch in that set of downs and it nets 3 yrds. His statistical avg for the game was 7.3 yrds per carry. That was the 1st of two blunders. The 2nd and very big blunder was Prevent Defense letting them throw with no pressure to open receivers for 70 yards and a TD. That was a HUGE mistake. All season long, our M.O. has been pressure to the QB, then in absolute crunch time, we go soft. Our defense looked lost as they probably haven't trained much if any to play prevent defense. Put 4 down linemen and stunt one or occasional two of LB's to get heat on Lee. When they did, some of his throws were hurried and errant. If they burned us with a 0 screen or a bubble pass, so be it. At least we fired every shot at them trying to win it.
As it is, I'm left wondering where did the offensive guru go? I know he is capable of gaudy numbers, now show us some wins in close games with guts for glory.
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BTW, I'm critical of the staff's decisions as of late, but we are far ahead of the rebuild curve even with these last two losses which were both winnable games.
In no way shape or form do I agree with Cantonman's fishing post!
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