Here's my rant.....

[bonefish1]

Any stat geeks out there want to look up something:
In the last 4 years, how many games has Purdue lost giving up a double digit 2nd half lead? How many have they won coming back from double digits?

-Can we please stop the talk of Edwards playing in the NBA...ever. He doesn't have the quicks, hops or shot. Europe maybe.

-I'm not sure what the experts see calling this team a Final Four potential. Unless they're hitting 3's like crazy, the formula to beat PU is simple: Pack the interior on D, let us shoot from distance. On offense, get isolation on our guards, take them to the hole and kick it back out for open 3's.
The experts are enamored with our size, but everyone knows, it's guard play that wins in the tourney, and ours stinks.

-We really, really miss Bryson Scott. I'm disappointed Painter ran him off when you knew he was going to be your starting PG this year. He not only would have been our best perimeter defender, but he'd also be the best guy to get a shot, break down the D off the dribble...

 

[Boilermagi]

Painter ran scott off? Shut up. Just shut up Scott left on his own and was a terrible PG to begin with. Your rant is nothing more than the whining of a clueless 12 year old girl.

 

[bonefish1]

Painter ran scott off? Shut up. Just shut up Scott left on his own and was a terrible PG to begin with. Your rant is nothing more than the whining of a clueless 12 year old girl.

Scott would have been our starting PG this year. He would have been the best ball handler and on-ball defender on the court. While he lacked a jumper, he still brought more to the court than PJ, Mathias and Hill.

 

[Boilermagi]

Scott would have been our starting PG this year. He would have been the best ball handler and on-ball defender on the court. While he lacked a jumper, he still brought more to the court than PJ, Mathias and Hill.

Your last line is a joke right? Scott was terrible and did nothing but drive in the lane and make poor decisions. PJ has bailed us out of games and has a good 3 point shot which we need more than scotts drive-the-lane-and-turn-the-ball-over. Dakota would run the point before Scott would see anything other than garbage time. Fact.

 

[bonefish1]

PJ's got a better jumper than Scott, but PJ is almost a shooting guard with PG responsibilities. PJ can't break down the D, can't get his own shot, can't run a fast break, is limited with lateral/perimeter D. I like PJ, I think he's tough, I just don't think he's a starting Big 10 PG.
Scott was the difference maker in the IU game at Mackey last year.

 

[tjreese]

Any stat geeks out there want to look up something:
In the last 4 years, how many games has Purdue lost giving up a double digit 2nd half lead? How many have they won coming back from double digits?

-Can we please stop the talk of Edwards playing in the NBA...ever. He doesn't have the quicks, hops or shot. Europe maybe.

-I'm not sure what the experts see calling this team a Final Four potential. Unless they're hitting 3's like crazy, the formula to beat PU is simple: Pack the interior on D, let us shoot from distance. On offense, get isolation on our guards, take them to the hole and kick it back out for open 3's.
The experts are enamored with our size, but everyone knows, it's guard play that wins in the tourney, and ours stinks.

-We really, really miss Bryson Scott. I'm disappointed Painter ran him off when you knew he was going to be your starting PG this year. He not only would have been our best perimeter defender, but he'd also be the best guy to get a shot, break down the D off the dribble...

Are you aware Bryson has admitted "he" made a mistake and wished he were on the team. that was in the media months ago

 

[Boilermagi]

PJ's got a better jumper than Scott, but PJ is almost a shooting guard with PG responsibilities. PJ can't break down the D, can't get his own shot, can't run a fast break, is limited with lateral/perimeter D. I like PJ, I think he's tough, I just don't think he's a starting Big 10 PG.
Scott was the difference maker in the IU game at Mackey last year.

Scott couldn't break down squat for the most part other than driving and either making a poor decision or turning the ball over. We have enough of that with Swanigan and don't need 2 people doing that. Scott also wasn't run off by Painter as it is well known Painter wanted him to stay and tried talking him in to staying. So as soon as you said that, it automatically makes the rest of your rant invalid.

 

[BBG]

Scott would of eliminated the need for Hill but, I don't think he would of taken the starting spot from PJ. And I say that with still being a huge Scott fan.

 

[cprh9u]

Quick, name the best PG CMP has recruited and developed? Lewis Jackson, who was an average starter with the Baby Boilers and then... umm... crap.

 

[BBG]

Quick, name the best PG CMP has recruited and developed? Lewis Jackson, who was an average starter with the Baby Boilers and then... umm... crap.

And Edwards will most likely prove your statement false. Sure he isn't here yet, but discounting his abilities would just be naive.

 

[cprh9u]

And Edwards will most likely prove your statement false. Sure he isn't here yet, but discounting his abilities would just be naive.

Has Painter already developed Edwards? My statement of name the best PG that CMP has recruited and developed will be proven false somehow by a future player? Makes sense.

For the record, I think and hope Edwards can be a good player. However, I thought and hoped the same of RJ and Scott.

 

[Boilermagi]

Has Painter already developed Edwards? My statement of name the best PG that CMP has recruited and developed will be proven false somehow by a future player? Makes sense.

For the record, I think and hope Edwards can be a good player. However, I thought and hoped the same of RJ and Scott.

Lol and just when I didn't think you could actually get dumber.

 

[bonefish1]

Quick, name the best PG CMP has recruited and developed? Lewis Jackson, who was an average starter with the Baby Boilers and then... umm... crap.

Painter and Keady like the same type of PG:
Pass first, play full court D, not good outside shooters. Think of all the PGs from Keady and Painter who fit that mold.
Could that be why we haven't gotten to a FF in 35 yrs? Perhaps.
Is there a correlation between how many Purdue PGs have gone to the NBA and a lack of tourney success?

 

[bonefish1]

And Edwards will most likely prove your statement false. Sure he isn't here yet, but discounting his abilities would just be naive.

Edwards is a nice player, but I just don't think he's got NBA athleticism or ability.
Granted, he's only a Soph and probably a 4 yr player, so I hope I'm wrong, but everyone on hear talking about him in the NBA need to slow down.

 

[BBG]

Edwards is a nice player, but I just don't think he's got NBA athleticism or ability.
Granted, he's only a Soph and probably a 4 yr player, so I hope I'm wrong, but everyone on hear talking about him in the NBA need to slow down.

I was talking Carsen not Vince.

 

[cprh9u]

Lol and just when I didn't think you could actually get dumber.

I like different opinions and ideas, but I've seen about 10 posts from you this morning and each one is extremely juvenile, like "shut up you're dumb" or "You are a doofus and shouldn't talk". Congratulations on being the only person on my ignore list for literally adding nothing.

 

[Boilermagi]

I like different opinions and ideas, but I've seen about 10 posts from you this morning and each one is extremely juvenile, like "shut up you're dumb" or "You are a doofus and shouldn't talk". Congratulations on being the only person on my ignore list for literally adding nothing.

Oh noes not ignore! You'll still read my posts. Besides you doing that pretty much confirms what I called you out on and all the points I have countered from you. You whine and cry then when called to the carpet for being so obiousl wrong, you do this instead of just sacking up and admiting it. I've added more to this forum in just a few days you have in your entire time of being here. Another fact. But run and hide little child, I expected nothing less since you lack the courage to sack up when proven wrong.

 

[bonefish1]

Oh noes not ignore! You'll still read my posts. Besides you doing that pretty much confirms what I called you out on and all the points I have countered from you. You whine and cry then when called to the carpet for being so obiousl wrong, you do this instead of just sacking up and admiting it. I've added more to this forum in just a few days you have in your entire time of being here. Another fact. But run and hide little child, I expected nothing less since you lack the courage to sack up when proven wrong.

Please don't reply anymore. You're wasting internet space.

 

[BoilerFan#35]

Quick, name the best PG CMP has recruited and developed? Lewis Jackson, who was an average starter with the Baby Boilers and then... umm... crap.

Lew Jack was a good PG he knew his role and stuck to it.

 

[SIBoiler2]

Are you aware Bryson has admitted "he" made a mistake and wished he were on the team. that was in the media months ago

Please stop inserting facts into this inane rant. They confuse his confusion.

 

[SIBoiler2]

Please don't reply anymore. You're wasting internet space.

Finally something you are qualified to comment on. Nobody is better at wasting internet space than you.

 

[BandofBoilers]

Are you aware Bryson has admitted "he" made a mistake and wished he were on the team. that was in the media months ago

Tj - - morning and yup, i've seen / read where Bryson admitted as much. As a fan of both Bryson Scott and Coach Painter...maybe they BOTH made a mistake?

While i don't think Bryson would suddenly be leading us to the Promised Land this year -- sure wish he was still on the team and think he'd bring a degree of toughness and 'in your face' attitude that the team seems to lack.

 

[Cleanface]

Painter and Keady like the same type of PG:
Pass first, play full court D, not good outside shooters. Think of all the PGs from Keady and Painter who fit that mold.
Could that be why we haven't gotten to a FF in 35 yrs? Perhaps.
Is there a correlation between how many Purdue PGs have gone to the NBA and a lack of tourney success?

This post kindof blew my mind.

 

[Boilermagi]

Please don't reply anymore. You're wasting internet space.

So basically you can't coutner anything I said. I didn't think so and figured you'd cower when presented with actual facts instead of numbskull notions like you have been posting.

 

[bonefish1]

This post kindof blew my mind.

Do you have a better theory? Since Purdue last went to the FF, I believe the only other B10 team not to have gotten there (I could be wrong) is Northwestern.
Why is that? Bad luck or is it something with the system? Sure, there's some luck involved, but back luck for 35 years?
Or, is it the 'system' at Purdue.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

Do you have a better theory? Since Purdue last went to the FF, I believe the only other B10 team not to have gotten there (I could be wrong) is Northwestern.
Why is that? Bad luck or is it something with the system? Sure, there's some luck involved, but back luck for 35 years?
Or, is it the 'system' at Purdue.

And some of the most memorable point guards in the last 20 years were transfers going back to Carson Cunningham, Willie Dean, Jon Octeus, Jon Hill, etc. LewJack and Kramer were home grown but really things seem unsettled since Kramer. Last one to take us to 2nd weekend.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Tj - - morning and yup, i've seen / read where Bryson admitted as much. As a fan of both Bryson Scott and Coach Painter...maybe they BOTH made a mistake?

While i don't think Bryson would suddenly be leading us to the Promised Land this year -- sure wish he was still on the team and think he'd bring a degree of toughness and 'in your face' attitude that the team seems to lack.

Let's all keep in mind that if Bryson had stayed - no Biggie.

However, I think we will all miss his defense and energy this Saturday in Bloomington. Not to mention his Boiler pride and hatred of IU.

 

[Statey]

Painter ran scott off? Shut up. Just shut up Scott left on his own and was a terrible PG to begin with. Your rant is nothing more than the whining of a clueless 12 year old girl.

I would estimate I've seen you use the word "clueless", the phrase "get a clue", or some variation thereof well over 50 times in the past few days. I'm starting to wonder if you're one of the Hardly boys..

 

[bonefish1]

And some of the most memorable point guards in the last 20 years were transfers going back to Carson Cunningham, Willie Dean, Jon Octeus, Jon Hill, etc. LewJack and Kramer were home grown but really things seem unsettled since Kramer. Last one to take us to 2nd weekend.

Kramer is a classic example: great defender, limited offensively. Teams would settle for him taking jumpers all day long.
Same thing with LewJack, Octeus, etc.
You could argue that PG is the most important spot on the floor, but it's an area Purdue is consistently struggled with.

 

[Boilermagi]

I would estimate I've seen you use the word "clueless", the phrase "get a clue", or some variation thereof well over 50 times in the past few days. I'm starting to wonder if you're one of the Hardly boys..

Speaking of clueless. This forum is filled with braindead wannabe experts so I call it like I see it. And luckily for everyone here, how I see it is pretty much always right.

 

[*4purdue*]

Tj - - morning and yup, i've seen / read where Bryson admitted as much. As a fan of both Bryson Scott and Coach Painter...maybe they BOTH made a mistake?

While i don't think Bryson would suddenly be leading us to the Promised Land this year -- sure wish he was still on the team and think he'd bring a degree of toughness and 'in your face' attitude that the team seems to lack.

If Bryson was so tough, he would have stuck it out & made himself good enough that CMP had to play him, rather than give up & go running back to FW because CMP wanted him to play within the system. This team is much better without players more concerned about there own play time rather than the team. Look at Taylor for example. If anyone ever had the right to pack his bags & leave mid season, it would have been him. Every game I watch he is very involved on the bench & not sitting there pouting. True team leader. Will he transfer after the season.... maybe, I hope not, but at least he's not being a disruption during the season.

 

[tjreese]

Tj - - morning and yup, i've seen / read where Bryson admitted as much. As a fan of both Bryson Scott and Coach Painter...maybe they BOTH made a mistake?

While i don't think Bryson would suddenly be leading us to the Promised Land this year -- sure wish he was still on the team and think he'd bring a degree of toughness and 'in your face' attitude that the team seems to lack.

I too wish he were on the team. he showed me signs of improving. That said it was Bryson's decision and that is why Bryson wished he were still on the team. I think he made a decision he regretted in too much of a hurry...no doubt thinking he would get lots of calls for him to go to other schools which didn't happen. Shoot, I would take him as a grad transfer "if" it worked out. Purdue could have used him...could have used Basil in games too...

 

[seminolesboilers]

Please don't reply anymore. You're wasting internet space.[/QUOTE





Boilermaggot is educated beyond her intelligence. Please...keep this in mind when criticizing her. Bashing another's input is all she is capable of...not adding to a thought provoking, stimulating conversation.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

Do you have a better theory? Since Purdue last went to the FF, I believe the only other B10 team not to have gotten there (I could be wrong) is Northwestern.
Why is that? Bad luck or is it something with the system? Sure, there's some luck involved, but back luck for 35 years?
Or, is it the 'system' at Purdue.

I think Iowa's last FF was the same year 1980......then there's Penn State, Nebraska, and Rutgers (last went in '76).......and I believe Minnesota's trip in '97 was vacated.

Still.....a frustrating fact for Boiler followers for sure.

 

[Boilermagi]

seminolesboilers

That weak comeback is funny considering you couldn't even quote correctly. But, you're not a Boiler so I expect nothing less than complete failure and you delivered. Again proving me right.

 

[Cleanface]

Do you have a better theory? Since Purdue last went to the FF, I believe the only other B10 team not to have gotten there (I could be wrong) is Northwestern.
Why is that? Bad luck or is it something with the system? Sure, there's some luck involved, but back luck for 35 years?
Or, is it the 'system' at Purdue.

I was complimenting your post by saying it 'blew my mind'. I hadn't really focused my thoughts on the history of the PG at PU.

I think your theory is solid.

 

[seminolesboilers]

That weak comeback is funny considering you couldn't even quote correctly. But, you're not a Boiler so I expect nothing less than complete failure and you delivered. Again proving me right.

No comeback is needed here...Boilermaggot. I will let your responses speak for itself what a worthless...poor excuse for a Purdue troll you are. You can take yourself down all by your lonesome...just opening those pink...pouting...puckered up ------- ( fill in the blanks) . Amen! Not wasting my time on you anymore...

 

[RegionWarrior101]

Kramer is a classic example: great defender, limited offensively. Teams would settle for him taking jumpers all day long.
Same thing with LewJack, Octeus, etc.
You could argue that PG is the most important spot on the floor, but it's an area Purdue is consistently struggled with.

Kramer carried us his last year in that W over A & M.

 

[bonefish1]

Kramer carried us his last year in that W over A & M.

I didn't say Kramer sucked, but he's not the starting guard on any Final Four caliber team, that's for sure.

Opponents knew he couldn't/wouldn't shoot from outside, so it was like playing with 4.5 players when PU was on offense. It's tough when a player is a complete offensive liability.

That's one of frustrations with Purdue's 'system'. It prides it self on defense, but at the expense of offense.

 

[BoilerFan#35]

I didn't say Kramer sucked, but he's not the starting guard on any Final Four caliber team, that's for sure.

Opponents knew he couldn't/wouldn't shoot from outside, so it was like playing with 4.5 players when PU was on offense. It's tough when a player is a complete offensive liability.

That's one of frustrations with Purdue's 'system'. It prides it self on defense, but at the expense of offense.

Tum Tum went to the FF last year.... Kramer was way better.