Here we go Again
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I don't think Purdue's record would have a bearing on UL but I doubt UL can provide as a whole what Purdue has already shown and is capable of showing in in the future. Even if he does leave, Purdue has been put in a situation where the pool of talent is exponentially larger than it was when Brohm was hired. I have faith in Bobinski to locate someone to carry on what Brohm has built in two years if he did leave. And if Brohm did decide to leave, I'd be happy for him to obviously fulfill his dreams as a coach.
They aren’t paying 18 million in buyout money (if all the recent stuff on Twitter today is accurate and the buyout for leaving was cut in half, not the buyout for being fired) and then going to have to pay a 7-8 million a year contract. It just isn’t happening. I can’t see Brohm leaving after this year. Most jobs that have an opening need some sort of rebuild. He is now 2 years into this rebuild with an incredible ‘19 class coming in and nice new facilities with an AD willing to spend money. I would say less than 5% chance Brohm leaves and why would he. 2-3 with a loss against directional Michigan. Not only is nobody talking about firing him, people are worried he will leave. There are many coaches that would kill for what he has right now. Everything is going the right direction.
Plus they cant go to papa John for the money anymore either. Sorry, I know that is going to trigger the trump people, but it is relevant to this discussion.
Thanks guys, I feel much better after seeing all this information. Like I said two months ago, I’m a nervous type. Its just I admire CJB and what he’s done for the program. In fact, I think I admire him more than I admired Coach Tiller which is saying alot.
Yes and in fact I out a condition in his offer that mirrors what Stoops has at UK:
Automatic $250k raise and an added year to the contract for every 7 win season. Automatic $500k raise and two years added to the contract for every 10 win season.
I’d break it down a bit more and go with 7-9-10 and let it be $300/$500/$750 and 1/2/3 years. I think that would clearly show Brohm that the university and the AD are behind him and 100% confident in him.
Yes! The table he is setting for 2019 and beyond is absolutely worth the risk.
(But raise his buyout proportionally. Purdue should show Brohm love, but they still have to balance their books.)
5-7 with that schedule, after losing almost everything on defense on a team that had zero depth on defense is a lot more impressive than it looks.
Coach has one of the best offenses in the nation right now. He has the best recruiting class in forever. He potentially will land the two best players in Indiana. He is doing very well in the surrounding states as well in recruiting.
I fully believe Purdue has one of the best coaching staffs in the nation. Full rebuilds from teams at he bottom of a division aren’t supposed to happen this quickly. I think Purdue has a chance to get to a bowl at 7-5. I don’t know that they will, but if there offense keeps playing like this and the defense continues to improve, they are certainly good enough. 8 points total deficit in their 3 losses shows how close they were early. Since then they have looked like a good football team.
The excitement and fan support is higher than it’s been in a long time. Yes, you would offer an extension so long as he is willing to raise that buyout to 8 million and you give the staff a raise as well.
Why do you think they wouldn’t let him contribute to a buyout? He still owns like 30% of the company, so he’s got the money.
Just because they took his name off the stadium doesn’t necessarily mean they wouldn’t let him write a check to Petrino.
well that took a bizarre turn.
I don't even think I want to know how you tie Trump to Papa Johns.
Do you think he would contribute to that after Lville took his name off the stadium? I mean they certainly could go to him, but I doubt John S will be donating money to them, Purdue, or Ball State for quite some time if not ever again, and I don't blame him one bit for it.
and how do you propose we handle seasons with 11/12/13 victories tic*?
What does Papa have to do with Trump people? I'm a republican and I despise Schnatter as a slimeball.
HAHA Gift him a house on Lake Shafer with a boat dock and a boat named Boiler Up!
If Brohm, would leave. I am sure Purdue will find a quality replacement.
You are an optimist. Based on prior historical record, PU will hire a "quality" replacement approx. 53% of the time.
And over the last 50 years, how many competent AD's did Purdue truly have...considering one was there for 50% of that time and he backed in to his one good football hire...I'd say I trust Bobinski to make a good hire since his track record at Purdue right now is good for everything athletics.
nothing to see here Petrino and L'Ville are stuck with each other for a long time unless he does something stupid which is always possible.
There's always Charlie Strong. His buyout at USF is nonexistent which would let UL part ways with Petrino without breaking the bank. UL already hired Petrino twice, why not Strong who was like 23-3 his last two years there.
Why would that trigger Trump voters? I have never figured out why libtards insist on bringing politics into college sports. Let it go and stick with football.
I actually have more faith in Bobinski and Daniels than any other administration I've seen. They would hire the right guy.
I didn't know much about Louisville's or Petrino's history so I looked it up.
Petrino is the all time winningest coach in Louisville history (by percentage) and second in actual wins. He has the highest winning percentage at Arkansas since the 1980's. Going back to 2003 his teams have made a bowl game every year except 2. His first year at Arkansas (which in later years he took to the Sugar and Cotton Bowls) and his one year at Western Kentucky were he was 8 and 4. His overall coaching record is 119 and 52. He is still only 57 years old.
His winning percentage is better than Mike Diantonio, Pat Fitzgerald, Paul Chryst, Kirk Ferentz, Jeff Brohm, James Franklin. PJ Fleck from the Big Ten and he has a higher winning percentage than guys like Berry Alvarez, Joe Tiller and Lou Holtz. The only coach in the Big Ten with a higher winning percentage is Urban Meyer. Jim Harbaugh's is very similar.
I may be naive but with this kind of record, isn't a coach allowed one losing season?
Remember Brohm really got his coaching start under Petrino and took a pay cut to go back and be the offensive coordinator at Western Kentucky. I don't know. I'm not sure taking over for your mentor who just got fired as the all time winningest coach in school history seems like an ideal situation.
Petrino is the all time winningest coach in Louisville history (by percentage) and second in actual wins. He has the highest winning percentage at Arkansas since the 1980's. Going back to 2003 his teams have made a bowl game every year except 2. His first year at Arkansas (which in later years he took to the Sugar and Cotton Bowls) and his one year at Western Kentucky were he was 8 and 4. His overall coaching record is 119 and 52. He is still only 57 years old.
His winning percentage is better than Mike Diantonio, Pat Fitzgerald, Paul Chryst, Kirk Ferentz, Jeff Brohm, James Franklin. PJ Fleck from the Big Ten and he has a higher winning percentage than guys like Berry Alvarez, Joe Tiller and Lou Holtz. The only coach in the Big Ten with a higher winning percentage is Urban Meyer. Jim Harbaugh's is very similar.
I may be naive but with this kind of record, isn't a coach allowed one losing season?
Remember Brohm really got his coaching start under Petrino and took a pay cut to go back and be the offensive coordinator at Western Kentucky. I don't know. I'm not sure taking over for your mentor who just got fired as the all time winningest coach in school history seems like an ideal situation.
I think the buzz is a combination of a few things:
1. Last year's opener at Lucas Oil was supposed to be a curb stomping for them. It wasn't and they needed a few questionable drive extending penalties to squeeze out a win. The coaching disparity was clear in that game.
2. The city of Louisville loves the Brohm family. As a result there has been a lot of local media coverage of Purdue, the turnaround, the culture, and the recruiting. It is always in their face.
3. Rondale Moore is wearing a black jersey. Cites Brohm as the sole reason. As he blows up it will just enrage the fans even more that they dont have him.
4. A lot of us look at the 5 star kids Counzo Martin rakes in and wonder what if. I'm sure there is a lot of that going on with their fan base as they flounder.
5. Petrino has a Les Miles feel to him. Yeah he knows how to win, but can he navigate today's game?
But just because the fans are pissed and want him fired, doesn't mean they succeed in getting him fired. And just because he gets fired doesn't mean Brohm goes there for the reasons you mention.
Edit: Grammar
Which Brohm? Multiple rumors that if L can't get Jeff, they may settle for a brother.
I would agree. I fully expect one of Brohm's brothers is the most likely coach to leave. Much like Coach Keady's assistants left for greater responsibility. I'm not sure what the family relationships are or how ready they are to go after coordinator or head coaching opportunities. But I'm confident at some time in the future, they will be ready to move on. And we must also be ready to accept their decision and be willing to wish them well.
Greg Brohm is not going to be a HC anywhere and Brian is inexperienced, having only been employed as a coach for 2016 season at WKU and here for a little over 1 season. Not saying Brian wont ever be a HC but it wont be any time soon
I think Brian may be the one who skips to the NFL. He knows the offense Jeff has developed and being a QB coach, he could do that for a year or two and be given the reigns as an OC. That would give him instant credibility to be considered for a HC at a MAC, AAC, or Sunbelt program in his footprint in the Midwest.
That's the methodology or approach that Greg Olson took after he left Tillers staff but he still toiled for about 4 yrs as an NFL QB coach before becoming a coordinator. Despite several interviews for HC positions in college and NFL, he's never gotten a sniff. Being a HC is not guaranteed for any of the Brohm brothers. I just don't think its in Brian's personality, at this time. I will wager Brady Brohm might be a HC before Brian..
The folks over on the U of L board already believe Brohm's a done deal and all Louisville has to do is ask him to come home...
I want to clarify . I did not include a timetable. I doubt any of the Brohm's leave anytime soon. But if any of our coaching staff were to leave, I believe it might be one of the Brohm brothers seeking more responsibility at a lesser school or NFL. Olson is a good example.
I think there were other issues with Greg. Most notably, he seems to be a great developer of talent, but a really poor OC.
Don't get me wrong. I think he's a nice guy. Wish we could have held onto him (and Lissa).
