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Has a coach ever depleted his former school like JB?

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I'm happy to have all of these former WKU coaches, recruits, and players...but my goodness. Can you imagine how WKU feels?
 
Yes. Fleck got like 11 recruits from WM to Minny. I think most fans understand some will follow their coach but they hated that Fleck string them along after he told them that he will be back and they got more money from their boosters ready for him to sign.

If CJB is leaving after 6 yrs for a bigger stage, then we know that Purdue football is much better shape. We would then have to give him incentives to stay, if not we will be in a much better position to get another high quality coach. That's part of the reality of college football, if you can't hack it you need to get out of the way.
 
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Yes. Fleck got like 11 recruits from WM to Minny. I think most fans understand some will follow their coach but they hated that Fleck string them along after he told them that he will be back and they got more money from their boosters ready for him to sign.

If CJB is leaving after 6 yrs for a bigger stage, then we know that Purdue football is much better shape. We would then have to give him incentives to stay, if not we will be in a much better position to get another high quality coach. That's part of the reality of college football, if you can't hack it you need to get out of the way.
You are correct. If a coach leaves for another school, it is because he is doing well and the team is winning. It would be bad to lose CJB but not a total bad thing for Purdue.
 
WKU could have hired one of JB's assistants. By going out side they were naturally going to loose all their current coaches and with them some players.
lose...not loose. Sorry! I see this all of the time on social media and it drives me nuts. Just trying to do my part to make the world a better place.
 
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lose...not loose. Sorry! I see this all of the time on social media and it drives me nuts. Just trying to do my part to make the world a better place.

I have found with age that when I type quickly I make mistakes like here for hear, there for their, your for you're, etc. So I usually give a quick read to catch these, but you caught me!

Well time for me to boldly go!

Oops, now you are going to tell me I split the infinitive!
 
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What's the guy supposed to do when he isn't hired until late ? Besides what about the decommits that went elsewhere.
 
I have found with age that when I type quickly I make mistakes like here for hear, there for their, your for you're, etc. So I usually give a quick read to catch these, but you caught me!

Well time for me to boldly go!

Oops, now you are going to tell me I split the infinitive!

Just caught myself doing another one. Quickly typing without thinking caused me to type wait instead of weight. Proof-reading before hitting submit I can catch these, but they occur at a higher frequency as I have aged.
 
What's the guy supposed to do when he isn't hired until late ? Besides what about the decommits that went elsewhere.

Brohm had two choices. He could have concentrated his efforts on retaining the recruits that Hazell left him, or concentrated his efforts on building a team to fit his schemes. It was obvious the players who decommited didn't decommit just because Hazell left. None of them decommitted during the season as a protest to Hazell being fired.

When Hazell was hired, his main priority was keeping Hope's recruits from decommitting. His #1 priority was to keep guys like Etling happy and committed. Brohm definitely did not share that same philosophy. It became obvious that many of our decommits were "encouraged" to look elsewhere and were quickly replaced.
 
Brohm had two choices. He could have concentrated his efforts on retaining the recruits that Hazell left him, or concentrated his efforts on building a team to fit his schemes. It was obvious the players who decommited didn't decommit just because Hazell left. None of them decommitted during the season as a protest to Hazell being fired.

When Hazell was hired, his main priority was keeping Hope's recruits from decommitting. His #1 priority was to keep guys like Etling happy and committed. Brohm definitely did not share that same philosophy. It became obvious that many of our decommits were "encouraged" to look elsewhere and were quickly replaced.
You missed my point, I was saying what's the big deal if he raided the school he just coached at . And I don't think you need to go into such detail on everything, the rest of us can figure things out. Relax, chill out.
 
Yes. Fleck got like 11 recruits from WM to Minny. I think most fans understand some will follow their coach but they hated that Fleck string them along after he told them that he will be back and they got more money from their boosters ready for him to sign.

If CJB is leaving after 6 yrs for a bigger stage, then we know that Purdue football is much better shape. We would then have to give him incentives to stay, if not we will be in a much better position to get another high quality coach. That's part of the reality of college football, if you can't hack it you need to get out of the way.

With MBob at the helm, Purdue is more likely to get the check book out and find a way to keep Brohm here, IMO.
 
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You missed my point, I was saying what's the big deal if he raided the school he just coached at . And I don't think you need to go into such detail on everything, the rest of us can figure things out. Relax, chill out.

I thought I was being brief. I didn't criticize you, so why do feel the need to always criticize me?
 
Brohm had two choices. He could have concentrated his efforts on retaining the recruits that Hazell left him, or concentrated his efforts on building a team to fit his schemes. It was obvious the players who decommited didn't decommit just because Hazell left. None of them decommitted during the season as a protest to Hazell being fired.

When Hazell was hired, his main priority was keeping Hope's recruits from decommitting. His #1 priority was to keep guys like Etling happy and committed. Brohm definitely did not share that same philosophy. It became obvious that many of our decommits were "encouraged" to look elsewhere and were quickly replaced.

Maybe Brohm didn't work on the recruits because they didn't fit his system OR he didn't view them as being players who would be successful at Purdue. Either way, it is his decision AND he improved Purdue's standings in the final rankings in every ranking system (rivals was a 10 spot improvement I believe).

Also, most are jumping your ass because your thoughts are pretty baseless and uneducated. You can easily answer your own questions by spending some time to research them yourself. Also, your continual attack of Brohm's extremely short time here is, even by some of the most negative posters opinion, pretty frustrating.
 
I thought I was being brief. I didn't criticize you, so why do feel the need to always criticize me?
I wasn't criticizing you , just explaining my point. You do go a little overboard on your explanations sometime, which I guess is better than no explanation. Its good to hear your ideas, if you think I am critical of you then I apologize.
 
Brohm had two choices. He could have concentrated his efforts on retaining the recruits that Hazell left him, or concentrated his efforts on building a team to fit his schemes. It was obvious the players who decommited didn't decommit just because Hazell left. None of them decommitted during the season as a protest to Hazell being fired.

When Hazell was hired, his main priority was keeping Hope's recruits from decommitting. His #1 priority was to keep guys like Etling happy and committed. Brohm definitely did not share that same philosophy. It became obvious that many of our decommits were "encouraged" to look elsewhere and were quickly replaced.
Could that be because hazels leftovers were not as good as hopes leftovers?
 
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Brohm and co. spent 2+ years evaluating the guys he had offered or had committed to WKU so why wouldn't he prefer to bring them aboard. Hazell only had spent 2 years at KSU with almost a completely different group of assistants anyway so he probably didn't know those recruits all that much better than the ones he was inheriting from Hope. Unless you're a blue-blood program, players commit to the coach, not the school. I'm sure Brohm was open to honoring all the commitments but honestly there was no relationship there at all. It made sense for many of them to move on esp. after Parker made his final decision.
 
And I totally agree. That's why I say Brohm had a lot more time to assemble this recruiting class than just two months. He brought players to Purdue he had been recruiting for over 2 years, as did his assistants. And that's why I'm hard on him and not willing to give him a pass or a mulligan and say, ok, he had so little time to assemble this class. These are the players he wanted even before he came to Purdue. It's not like when he came to Purdue, he started over from scratch.
 
Brohm can now at least compete against the other power conference schools for recruits. What he brought over isn't indicative of his recruiting because selling WKU is different from selling Purdue. He targeted the players he felt he could get. But for the time being I'd rather have Brohm have 2-3 star players he knows than 2-3 star players he doesn't.
 
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Brohm and co. spent 2+ years evaluating the guys he had offered or had committed to WKU so why wouldn't he prefer to bring them aboard. Hazell only had spent 2 years at KSU with almost a completely different group of assistants anyway so he probably didn't know those recruits all that much better than the ones he was inheriting from Hope. Unless you're a blue-blood program, players commit to the coach, not the school. I'm sure Brohm was open to honoring all the commitments but honestly there was no relationship there at all. It made sense for many of them to move on esp. after Parker made his final decision.

Or what's possible is that the guys that Hope pulled in were inherently better than anything Hazell could have pulled in...which I would agree on since that was the best class you could even consider Hazell's at all. I believe Brohm evaluated the class Hazell/Parker pulled together and found that the guys he had recruited/had ties to OR other guys Parker/Hazell had established any sort of relationship with fit better with what he wanted to do...this is clearly reflected in the increase in class rankings at the time of signing day.
 
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