Do you think Haas can be as good as Adams. I watched the pacers/okc game last night. Adams had a nice game.If Haas can play half as well as Adams last night he'll have a long nba career and no i'm not saying Haas is Adams. I just think he could be at some point in time. Thoughts?
Haas/Steven Adams
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Adams was a 5* one and done top 10 recruit. Asking alot from Haas to ask him to be Steven Adams.
Roy Hibbert is a better comparison.
Roy Hibbert is a better comparison.
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It was the first i'd heard of Adams. I don't follow the NBA that much only the Pacers a little. The pacers play more as a team this year and some rule changes from the NBA has made it a bit more bareable to watch.
Adams looks to be a lot more athletic than Haas although Haas seems to have improved in that area. The NBA appears to be moving away from a Haas type of center.
Lol.
Adams athleticism is on a different planet from Haas. He is a rebounding/defensive machine. Was that from day one in NBA.
That said, Haas, today, is much more offensively skilled than Adams.
Very weird comparison
Adams athleticism is on a different planet from Haas. He is a rebounding/defensive machine. Was that from day one in NBA.
That said, Haas, today, is much more offensively skilled than Adams.
Very weird comparison
Yeah, the only way they're comparable is that they're tall and white.
Adams is a freak athlete. Haas is not.
I still like to think that there's a place for Haas in the NBA though.
Adams is a freak athlete. Haas is not.
I still like to think that there's a place for Haas in the NBA though.
I would give a lot to give Haas 1/2 the athleticism of Adams. Haas is great at being the best Haas, but to be able to jump and finish like Adams. Whoa!
If Adams was on our team, he would average 12 rebounds a game at the least.
This Adams is actually a super athletic center being as mobile and heavy as he is. Haas isn't close to being as physically talented
they're different bodies, different types of players. But, I don't get all this "Haas will never be close to (______)."
Who's hoarding all the crystal balls? I haven't got mine, yet.
Look it up, only 6 payers from Purdue have played more than 100 games (82 game season) in the NBA since the class of 1980.
Glenn Robinson
Brad Miller
Carl Landry
ETwaun Moore
Brian Cardinal
Steve Scheffler (174 games)
JBC and Jerry Sichting from the class of 1980 made it, but since then we've had 6 players in 36 years "make it" and people on this board act like we currently have 3 or 4 players on our current roster that could make it in the NBA plus Biggie. Really????
Will Biggie make it? Maybe. He's played in 14 of the 27 games and is averaging 2.6 points a game for Portland this year. Will any of the others? I doubt it.
This isn't unique to Purdue. Since the class of 2000 these are the number of players from other B10 schools who have played 100 games in the NBA (through today):
Michigan State 8
IU 6
Illinois 4
Purdue 3
Minnesota 2
Wisc 4
Iowa 1
Glenn Robinson
Brad Miller
Carl Landry
ETwaun Moore
Brian Cardinal
Steve Scheffler (174 games)
JBC and Jerry Sichting from the class of 1980 made it, but since then we've had 6 players in 36 years "make it" and people on this board act like we currently have 3 or 4 players on our current roster that could make it in the NBA plus Biggie. Really????
Will Biggie make it? Maybe. He's played in 14 of the 27 games and is averaging 2.6 points a game for Portland this year. Will any of the others? I doubt it.
This isn't unique to Purdue. Since the class of 2000 these are the number of players from other B10 schools who have played 100 games in the NBA (through today):
Michigan State 8
IU 6
Illinois 4
Purdue 3
Minnesota 2
Wisc 4
Iowa 1
My observation is that Haas could easily get 10 rebounds a game, BUT he does not have a nasty streak and he does not want to pick up fouls. In the pros, he can be more aggressive. On D, Haas sort of lurks in the vicinity of everyone who comes inside. There are a lot fewer shots being put up inside when Haas is in the game. He does not get a lot of blocks, but he changes a lot of shots. In the pros, he will play a lot more 1 on 1 and I personally think he will do an adequate job. On O, I don't think anyone can stop him. They may slow him down, but you get the ball inside and he can score on Adams or anyone. The potential #1 draft choice from Arizona fouled out try to defend him.
If I was an NBA GM, I would pick Haas in the middle of the first round. I would place him for 5 minute stretches once or twice a half and tell the team to feed him the ball. With no zone, I don't see anyone not stopping Haas. Against someone like Adams on D, Haas will box him off the boards and slow him down offensively inside no matter how athletic he is.
If I was an NBA GM, I would pick Haas in the middle of the first round. I would place him for 5 minute stretches once or twice a half and tell the team to feed him the ball. With no zone, I don't see anyone not stopping Haas. Against someone like Adams on D, Haas will box him off the boards and slow him down offensively inside no matter how athletic he is.
this is really good information, but I'm confused about something. At the top, you stated that Purdue had 6 players that fit your criteria, and listed them. But then, at the bottom, your list only attributed 3 to Purdue. This makes your list a little suspect...Which one is it?
Text is about players since 1980. Data is from the year 2000 on. He noted both in his post
Disagree. For one thing they don't play defense in the NBA. You can't teach his height and strength but he has developed quite the offensive moves here this season.
He'll be on a roster.
Not even close the NBA is all about defense now a days especially at the 5. The NBA game has change alot over the last decade or so
The post game is dying in the NBA it just is not that efficient.
The NBA is about roles and Haas does not fit any role
There is a place.
Teams do use big centers. It is more matchup driven then in the past. They will not punish Haas for being big which will help his game. As long as he can improve his offense he will no ok.
Hibbert is out because he is emotionally challenged.
Yeah, man!
Not a single person in NCAA Men's basketball has Haas' Double Bear Paw Style Blocks that will become the feared Haas' trademark!!
You just wait!!
TIC..
I am just hoping that his newly acquired free throw touches can translate into his leaping ability!!
Boiler up!!
I worked with Bob Hayes and I never heard one guy ever tell him that with his speed he should have caught 5 passes a game. Bob will be the first to tell you his speed was God given. Bob had limitations and I heard the opp criticize him but NEVER a Cowboy fan.
Isaac's size is God given and I am surprised at the people who want to limit his success. So far this year, he has played against 3 centers that are possible first round choices. He has scored easily against all of them and got them in foul trouble. I feel like I am reading the forum at Butler or Indiana. It is true Isaac can be better, but if we want to go far in the tournament we have to continue to go inside to Isaac. So far, no team has stopped him 1 on 1 and they are then forced to double team and that is when we get open looks. We have an excellent team and can still score without going inside, but we lost two games when we quit going inside. Since our losses and until last week we made it a point to go inside and we are playing great. I hope some of you watch Isaac and change your mind set. We shall see tomorrow how Isaac does against an athletic center, but if we continue to go inside, I will put my money on Purdue.
Isaac's size is God given and I am surprised at the people who want to limit his success. So far this year, he has played against 3 centers that are possible first round choices. He has scored easily against all of them and got them in foul trouble. I feel like I am reading the forum at Butler or Indiana. It is true Isaac can be better, but if we want to go far in the tournament we have to continue to go inside to Isaac. So far, no team has stopped him 1 on 1 and they are then forced to double team and that is when we get open looks. We have an excellent team and can still score without going inside, but we lost two games when we quit going inside. Since our losses and until last week we made it a point to go inside and we are playing great. I hope some of you watch Isaac and change your mind set. We shall see tomorrow how Isaac does against an athletic center, but if we continue to go inside, I will put my money on Purdue.
"Bullet" BoB Hayes.....man, was he fast. I remember seeing him play in the early 70's....played his final year with the 49ers.
I think he is still the only person to have won both an Olympic gold medal and a Super Bowl. Michael Carter (of the mid 80's/90s with San Francisco) won a silver medal, IIRC.
I think he is still the only person to have won both an Olympic gold medal and a Super Bowl. Michael Carter (of the mid 80's/90s with San Francisco) won a silver medal, IIRC.
I would concur with everything you said here. I would also think that most that post here also agree - even those in this thread. I think where this thread went wrong is someone compared Issac to an uber elite athletic big in the NBA, which Issac is not. It doesn't mean that Issac isn't a beast and an extremely good collegiate player and who we center our team around. He is absolutely instrumental in the success we have had and will have this season. Boiler Up!!
I seldom watch the NBA anymore. The game has turned into a 1 on 1 game of ballet and who looks more graceful putting up shots. Most teams don't have anybody playing D.
I love watching Purdue, because they play team D and have an inside outside offense that will them far. They are also filled with kids that care about their teammates.
I am very surprised at some of the posts here. Shouldn't Purdue graduates realize that a player's friends and family read this? I am certainly glad I did not read this before the game. I hope none of the players did.
I love watching Purdue, because they play team D and have an inside outside offense that will them far. They are also filled with kids that care about their teammates.
I am very surprised at some of the posts here. Shouldn't Purdue graduates realize that a player's friends and family read this? I am certainly glad I did not read this before the game. I hope none of the players did.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... it's almost like Purdue has a history of being extraordinarily successful with lesser talent, and turning that talent into B10 Championship teams!
I seem to recall a recent thread . . . maybe, less that 24 hours old . . . in which the point was made that Keady took these same types of players and made them champions!
"Never"??? Ever??
I don't know. Maybe you're right. But, "NEVER"????
Good lord, it's posts like this that make me scratch my head.
Spot on. It's really tough to compare Isaac to an athletic, starting NBA C at this point. Isaac's path will likely involve needing to break into the league as a 3rd string/situational center who is the 14th or 15th guy on the roster.
I can think of 2 huge centers with limited athletic upside that are currently trying to stick in the NBA by going down that same path: Boban in Detroit and Georgios P out in Sacramento. Haas will be intriguing enough to get a chance in summer league at the very least. It will be up to him to prove he belongs.
Jim Jackson had some insightful thoughts about this on the telecast, IMO. He mentioned about the trend away from the traditional big, but he also acknowledged Isaac Haas' skills and that in the right situation, he'd have a shot to make a roster and contribute depending upon match-ups. I agree with '02 in that he should at least get an opportunity....the rest is up to him. FT shooting is a plus.
He'll be successful wherever his career takes him.
He'll be successful wherever his career takes him.
I don't think anyone here is meaning to say he's not a good or talented player. He definitely is. I think the NBA is becoming a harder place for bigger more methodical playing centers. One mention Boban and George P. Those guys rarely get playing time. Big Centers like Haas are becoming more like situational lefties of the NBA unfortunately.
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