Why is Haas so terrible at rebounding? I don't know how many times I have seen the ball come off the rim and go right to him. Then he fumbles it out of bounds or to the other team for an offensive rebound. Happens way to often. He probably loses 5 or more rebounds a game by fumbling it. How can this be solved if at all?
Haas and rebounding
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Have you ever tried to rebound a tennis ball?
Absolutely agree with you. Same reason Wilt Chamberlain was a terrible foul shooter. Hands too big and strong.
Wilt was a great rebounder though. Haas' issue is that he isn't athletic, and he isn't quick. If the ball doesn't bounce straight to him, then he isn't going to get the rebound.
This. Rebounding is much more a function of quickness, athleticism, and positioning than it is simply height. Height can help you, but height alone does not make one a great rebounder. I've been happy as long as Haas can grab 5+ a game. He's never going to be a double-digit rebounder on average.
I think the whole team got waaaaayy to used to Biggie doing all the rebounding. They just don't give the necessary effort. Tennessee was an attacking rebounding team and they smoked us on the boards. Rebounding is more about effort than anything. Look at Brian Cardinal.
I think that most of Haas problem is that he's not a quick leaper. Its hard to get out jumped when you are 7'2" but when you are as slow as Haas is, it happens.
He's also not incredibly coordinated. Hard to squeeze that tennis ball when its moving as quick as it is.
He's also not incredibly coordinated. Hard to squeeze that tennis ball when its moving as quick as it is.
good rebounders anticipate the game. I think it's more than just being athletic. That certainly helps, but there are plenty of good rebounders who are not super athletic. bird averaged 10rpg...for his nba CAREER. He had fight, desire, and he anticipated the shots.
Some of this has already been stated, but
Rebounding is about:
1. position relative to shot angle
2. position relative to 'your man'
3. anticipating the angle of the shot
4. quickness to react to the ball
5. vision of the floor
6. jumping ability
7. strength of hands and arms
8. desire to go get the ball
9. number of fouls the player has
10. the luck of the bounce
On our high school team, each week someone was awarded the rebound shirt (there was an assist shirt, too). The 7 footer on our team got it a few times, but at 5'10", I wore the shirt more than he did*. **
*Since we are anonymous here, I guess that I can brag about it.
**I could be lying, but I'm not. In fact, we jokingly called the guy Reuben Rebound!
Rebounding is about:
1. position relative to shot angle
2. position relative to 'your man'
3. anticipating the angle of the shot
4. quickness to react to the ball
5. vision of the floor
6. jumping ability
7. strength of hands and arms
8. desire to go get the ball
9. number of fouls the player has
10. the luck of the bounce
On our high school team, each week someone was awarded the rebound shirt (there was an assist shirt, too). The 7 footer on our team got it a few times, but at 5'10", I wore the shirt more than he did*. **
*Since we are anonymous here, I guess that I can brag about it.
**I could be lying, but I'm not. In fact, we jokingly called the guy Reuben Rebound!
maybe they're tentative for fear of fouling. if they foul they sit it seems. i kinda get that but they sure are not aggressive rebounders. seems they screen (a little bit) and wait for it to come to them.
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He has position lots of times so that's not the issue. I think he just doesn't have soft enough hands or a quick enough reaction. Haarms seems to have way better hands so hopefully he will be able to be a great rebounder.
I'd say for Haas it is a combination on #4 and lack of "quick hands". Both he really can't improve much on, but that's ok because he has so many other great qualities, skills, gifts that make him a great ball player for the Boilers. I'm a huge Haas fan. At this point, he is what is he is as a rebounder. That doesn't mean he isn't working positioning and boxing out like a beast when the ball goes up either.
What I mean by that, is a player will be more aggressive if he has few fouls (depending on remaining game time).
If he already has 2 fouls in the first half, he's gonna shy away from going after it 100%.
Not sure how Haas plays the ping pong.
That would have given him the improvement on his reaction time.
That would have given him the improvement on his reaction time.
The best rebounders may not know it, but they have an innate sense of trigonometry and physics.
He needs to watch some game film of Carl Landry. There's a guy who had a nose for the ball on rebounding and he wasn't the tallest man on the floor. He just wanted it more.
I mean landry is probably the worst example just from a physical perspective. Small athletic and most importantly a great booty.
Sometimes I wonder if you posters watch the game I watch. On rebounding, Biggie would get position and then move towards the ball with great leaping ability. Haas boxes out well and then wards off space and goes for the ball well. He loses the ball because the opp get around their man and go for Haas' arms and then follow through to the ball. Tonight's game had the perfect replay showing this, because they replayed Haas hurting his knee. Haas had the ball and Heuter got around his man clutched Haas' left arm pulling it away. Didn't anyone see this? They need to have a few of these blurps and send them to the Referee's office to evaluate. This happens constantly and is a reason Haas "fumbles" away a rebound every game.
Also watch Haas on D when the opp comes near the basket. Haas gives up rebounding position just to be a presence. Tonight Haas had 4 or 5 blocks, but that doesn't matter. Maryland look for Haas or Haarms every time they came near the basket. One reason our D is so good is because the D's objective is to stop the jump shot at the expense of an occasional drive. BTW, Vince got a nice steal when Haas came over and they threw to his man. Even though twice they fed to the op center for easy dunks when Haas went to help.
Also watch Haas on D when the opp comes near the basket. Haas gives up rebounding position just to be a presence. Tonight Haas had 4 or 5 blocks, but that doesn't matter. Maryland look for Haas or Haarms every time they came near the basket. One reason our D is so good is because the D's objective is to stop the jump shot at the expense of an occasional drive. BTW, Vince got a nice steal when Haas came over and they threw to his man. Even though twice they fed to the op center for easy dunks when Haas went to help.
I think they have a working knowledge of trig and physics, but not necessarily an academic knowledge of such (this doesn't apply to Sindelar, who is getting a degree in E.E.!)
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